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Toukiden 2, Atelier Firis, Nights of Azure 2 and Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru comin
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And they have distribution duties for NISA on top of their own output. They're really well connected at retail.
SolidSnakex
Member
I hope that's not a bad sign, especially since BR was announced alongside NoA in Japan. But BR seems to be somewhat early in development (it doesn't have any kind of release timeframe) while NoA was immediately given a specific date, so that may be the reason for the lack of an announcement. Hopefully it comes over as well since it looks really good
YianGaruga
Banned
I hope that's not a bad sign, especially since BR was announced alongside NoA in Japan. But BR seems to be somewhat early in development (it doesn't have any kind of release timeframe) while NoA was immediately given a specific date, so that may be the reason for the lack of an announcement. Hopefully it comes over as well since it looks really good
Yeah it's probably just because it's barely known compared to the NoA "franchise". Blue Reflection looks too good to be left in Japan
I need my Sailor Moon JRPG
While true, it still doesn't excuse why they haven't done a thing with 4-Sumeragi, which actually IS a solid release (and has more content).
But what are ya going to do...
YianGaruga
Banned
No source, I was saying this based on PSN ratings, which Vita had more of. But now it seems PS4 had kinda destroyed Vita version since then.
My fears are back on, there might be a chance that Vita versions of those games won't make it here. Wonder which ones will come which ones won't.
Jasper Avenue
Member
More Vita games!
Grim Patron
Member
Yes I saw that but they also announced Toukiden 2 and Sanada for the first time for the West so maybe NOA2, Firis are just in the TGS lineup but not confirmed yet. That was my point.
Kresnik258
Member
My guesses:
- Toukiden yes, made by Omega Force who are a big team who can spare programmers.
- Samurai Warriors maybe, reasons from above apply but the games seem to sell poorly on Vita (few ratings).
- Atelier Firis yes, there seems to be a profitable niche buying these games on Vita.
- Nights of Azure no, didn't get the first game and Gust are a smaller studio.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
Ni-Oh is almost definitely a buy.
Also, I never realized that Toukiden 2 is the first open-world hunting game ever. Hopefully it's successful enough to push Monster Hunter further in that direction.
Also, I never realized that Toukiden 2 is the first open-world hunting game ever. Hopefully it's successful enough to push Monster Hunter further in that direction.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Hopefully those dates which came out on retailer sites for berserk and NIOH are true.
Sales seem to be down from the Arland trilogy (or at least Totori and Meruru) heights. At least in Japan. However, they are clearly still making enough to stick with annual installments.
Meruru was the last game I played, though I own the next two games (as well as Rorona Plus). I need to pick up a copy of Shallie before it disappears. Sophie and this new title aren't on my radar until I get a PS4.
I really wish the Atelier series would go the PC port route, but it's Koei Tecmo, so they would probably start with Totori Plus with unchanged VITA graphics (and resolution) for $50.
Hoping for a western miracle then.
TheSpoiler
Member
True. Capcom barely gives money to the series nowadays, so they probably won't spend on localization until a reboot or something.
But if Koei does well, it might light a fire under their ass and focus on the next release coming stateside.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Emperor_Uriel
Member
It did okay in Japan (100k in the first week), and I think it'll get solid sales in the West if it comes to PC.
Speaking of which, why the hell hasn't Capcom ported any Monster Hunter games to PC yet?
Serenade_King
Banned
Toukiden 2 finally coming in english! Since there isn't a Freedom Wars 2 I have been waiting for Toukiden 2 to fill the void. Now if only we can get Dragon Quest Heroes 2 localized...
djplaeskool
Member
Hell yeah
Toukiden 2
Toukiden 2
Toukiden 2 did amazingly bad in Japan. They lost so much audience from the first game to pursue a platform where that audience doesn't exist. It's easily one of the biggest bombs in Japan of 2016.
YianGaruga
Banned
What do you mean? Isn't Toukiden 2 on Vita as well?
Yes, and the Vita version of the game is awful. No one got fooled by it, so whatever audience K-T gained on the PS4 was obliterated by how much they lost on Vita.
I wonder if they were hoping to increase their western sales with the PS4 version. Probably unlikely. The name alone is going to limit sales outside of the niche that already buys Japanese games.
makingmusic476
Member
TK are on fire.
It is, but the issue is that K-T made the game for PS4 and then downported it to Vita (where most of the fanbase was/is) so it ended up looking like a psp game.
That's more like the technical burden of going open world. Even on PS4, models look clearly worse than in Kiwami.
And judging by the reception to the port of the first game on PC, that audience is going to be understandably wary this second go-round.
I'm glad that it is coming over in spite of how poorly it's done in Japan, but they are in a tough spot in terms of continuing the franchise.
Grim Patron
Member
lol sure it will. Kiwami didnt do well on anything in the West.
Yeah, but it still comes back to the same issue of them going for the ps4 audience with the open world gimmick when most of their fanbase was on vita. IIRC the drop between Toukiden 1 and 2 was around 50%? That's a lot of sales lost, and even then the vita version sold the most.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
Eh, then it has the same issue that every other mismanaged Japanese IP does: Too much of a focus on domestic sales to a limited consumer base.
You'd think that, after the Souls franchise blew up, Japanese devs would have learned the value of a strong focus on international releases. Bringing moderately successful games to PC, like God Eater and Dragon's Dogma, is also a huge boon to sales.
But if the goal is to chase that Monster Hunter money by appealing to the same audience MH dominates, an audience that already has their ideal game and doesn't desire any changesto the formula... then they're doomed to fail.
15-20k copies in over a year doesn't leave much of a PC audience to be wary.
killatopak
Gold Member
I'll buy them.
All those games gaf. ALL THOSE GAMES!
Super hyped particularly on Berserk, Toukiden and Atelier.
All those games gaf. ALL THOSE GAMES!
Super hyped particularly on Berserk, Toukiden and Atelier.
Kind of hard to even appeal to the MH audience when you refuse to support the platform they're on.
That's like the exact opposite of what happened. Toukiden 2 focused on the (western) console audience and it destroyed their domestic sales.
Also I'm not sure how God Eater has done tremendously well on Steam but I'm on mobile and can't check Steamspy right now.
God Eater 2 Rage Burst: 37,168 ± 4,988
That's decent-ish I guess.
dakkumauji
Member
based koei-tecmo
i'll get them all
i'll get them all
I made the comparison in a Media Create thread that hunting action titles on the Vita are like lampreys without a shark to latch onto. I get why Sony was so aggressive in luring everything not Monster Hunter away from the 3DS, but Sony failed to fill the gap in with their entries in the genre. Soul Sacrifice loudly discarded any young audience with its focus on blood and gore, and Freedom Wars never had a good hook to lure people to it. The closest thing that Sony has had to a Monster Hunter has been God Eater from Bamco, and that ain't no Monster Hunter.
Well, compared to the other games mentioned:
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen: 406,221 ± 16,483
Toukiden: Kiwami: 17,006 ± 3,374
Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition: 2,639,647 ± 41,875
Dark Souls II: 1,016,166 ± 26,046
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin: 808,935 ± 23,246
Dark Souls III: 1,064,029 ± 26,650
ShinMaruku
Member
When you see a game by team Ninja don't look too much for a PC version, they don't like doing the pc port business.
They ported DOA5 which did okay-ish despite some issues, and Yaiba also got a PC port. Skipped DOAX3 and Hyrule Warriors for obvious reasons though. I'd say a (good) PC port would be smart for Nioh given the market for similar games on the platform like Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
pretty done
Member
Blessing in disguise with how bad every Tecmo port has been.
I bought Toukiden on PC :lol :lol fuck me