Bruno MB
Member
I only have the cumulative sales number after 3 weeks (94,000).
To calculate the first week number I would need the weekly percentage change for 2nd and 3rd week. But I figure out that around 60,000.
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PAL Charts - Week 42, 2016
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I only have the cumulative sales number after 3 weeks (94,000).
To calculate the first week number I would need the weekly percentage change for 2nd and 3rd week. But I figure out that around 60,000.
So GoW4 have to do better than that.
Bits N Pieces
Member
The thirst for Gears chat is real, lol.
Well done Horizon, dem legs!
Well done Horizon, dem legs!
gundamkyoukai
Member
It going to be interesting to see how much the new GOW grows.
Don't see it selling less than that first week .
Gears having the normal drop but poor first week numbers will hurt it .
BF1 seem to be doing okay .
Hamster Plugin
Member
I don't even know why people buy it physically. It's cheaper on PSN and it's more convenient to just launch the digital version for a few quick games.
ethomaz
Banned
More people like physical than digital
That didn't changed yet... maybe next gen.
Every COD is hated and have a lot of bad mouth but in the end it'll be the top again and again and again.
There's still been a heavy drop off since it went to shit (Ghosts), though.
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[Week 45, 2007] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (ACTIVISION) < 215,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2008] CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 430,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2009] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,600,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2010] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,800,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2011] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,773,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2012] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,386,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2013] CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 690,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2014] CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 730,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2015] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 635,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2016] CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)Holly shit at the original Black Ops.
And is yet a lot more than the competition, this time there is even the MW remaster, no way it could be lower then BO3.
Including the DLC it comes with, it's cheaper physical than digital if you want those cars.
No it's probably more to do with the new consoles coming out a few weeks later.
It's more than the competition but selling less than half of what you used to a few years ago is nothing to shy at either. I also don't think MW will help that much to be honest, personally think people are overestimating how much it's gonna have an effect but we'll see.
ME and 10 friends bought it just for Cod 4, the old school will buy this day 1 for the Remaster, it remains to be seen how much of us still play Call of Duty, many have moved, I didn't play since Mw 3 per example, came back for Black Ops 3.
Mw3 was pure garbage.
Even halo and gears have dropped like 50% compared to last gen so what's the deal with cod? The market is chaning but COD is still the best selling fps on the market.
There's reasons that lead to Halo and Gears selling less though. It's exclusive to the console that lost a lot of mindshare this gen, and also huge missteps in the Halo Franchise with MCC and 4. It's not a 1:1 comparison to CoD IMO
Katana_Strikes
Member
In the end, internet hype, YouTube views/likes don't guarantee sales. Really looking forward to seeing sales of TF and CoD to compare.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
I agree that it is nice Sony has diverse IP's but Uncharted 4 outselling other old IP's doesn't really prove that.
In UK and USA the X1 is doing like the 360 so this reason doesn't make sense to me.
Brand like COD drop because they'll releas every year and the gamers after long yime loose interest, but a remaster bundled with the game can increase the appeal with the old fan and who lnow maybe the game is even good.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Going from Bruno's post here that BF1 sold 277k copies, Infinite Warfare would have to sell about 40% of Black Ops III's 635k week one sales for BF1 to have a bigger launch - and personally I think there's zero chance the series has declined that much. Purely focusing on UK sales, of course.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
And to think, there are actually people out there that think Battlefield 1 will outsell Infinite Warfare. Cray cray!
I think a healthy amount of people who are in it for the single player were satisfied when the respective trilogies ended. I didn't play Judgment and would have thought twice about getting Gears 4 if I had an Xbox because it seems pretty derivative. Pre E3 I was down on God of War coming back, too, but they overhauled their franchise a lot and injected some excitement back into it.
The xbox is doing fine in the US and UK this gen compared to PS4/other countries but it dominated last gen. It's not doing like the 360 at all. If it was doing like the 360 the XB1 would be the sales leader again. I mean, it wasn't Europe or Japan that kept Xbox afloat last gen.
What? Maybe you forgot that the 360 after 3 year on the market wasn't even near the sales of xbox one in USA and UK, is the rotw that have the MS console to be nearly dead.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Yeah pretty much. Same as those that thought Gears would be king over Halo too.
PC will help but yeah it looks like BF is still behind COD.
Well you said Halo and Gears dropped 50% in the switch to next gen, what does that have to do with the first 3 years of the 360? IF we're comparing the first 3 years of the 360 & Xb1, then Gears sold pretty much the same as Gears 1 so there's no 50% drop. But I think comparing like that is silly.
It's hard to compare hardware sales but there's no denying there's lost mindshare for Xbox in the UK. They used to dominate and now it's like 60/40 split or something in favour of PS4. Just because it's selling more than the 360 in it's first 3 years doesn't mean much, lost mindshare is lost mindshare.
Also, to the point I think you were making, I don't think it's next gen that hurts the sales any more. Most other games are selling around what they used to or even more, there's only a few with huge drop offs. Also CoD is cross gen, while Halo and Gears weren't, so that reason doesn't work for CoD either (but as said I don't think it matters much anyway)
Oh, no doubt Infinite Warfare would sell better than Battlefield 1. COD as a franchise is still extremely strong, after all. What's more interesting is seeing how IW stacks up with previous games in the franchise. I'm not sure what to think yet, though.
Yeah 360 did much better across the world than Xbox One.
Here in Portugal we had a lot of people with 360, now it's a Ps4 Kingdom.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Sorry, I thought you said "I expect BF1 to perform better" instead of "I expected BF1 to perform better". Please ignore my comment as it's thus kind of redundant!
KillerMan91
Member
Weird to see lower numbers than for Battlefront in UK when in concurrent online players WW BF1 launch destroys Battlefront launch.
EA was noting that Battlefront had an unusually high physical percentage for them due to the two new audiences it was hitting for them (younger children and 40+ year old inactive gamers who had dabbled in their youth).
That said, BF1 still plausibly did less in the UK overall.
ethomaz
Banned
A lot affect this concurrent number...
- More people playing MP
- More digital sales
- More PC sales
- More sales outside UK
Chobel
Member
I'm thinking BF1 is doing crazy numbers in US, but somehow not doing that great in the other countries.
KillerMan91
Member
Good points. Younger children and over 40 old inactive gamers probably didn't play as much multiplayer either. Of course at the same time maybe BF1 just sold more outside of UK than Battlefront (Star Wars legacy in UK > in rest of Europe).
Even without PC combined PS4/XB1 concurrent numbers are way higher though.
Battlefront had pretty damn huge launch in US too. I actually think the opposite is maybe happening. Battlefront might have sold more in UK and US but less in rest of the world (Star Wars brand and legacy is not as big outside of english speaking countries)
It's selling less then the first Gears and at the time the game wasn't even a known brand.
Just look at Uncharted 4 sales, it exceeded the sales of Uncharted 3 with a lot less consoles on the market.
BF>COD and Gears>Halo was only happening in the mind of people confusing their personal wishes for reality.
But Gears 4 performing like Judgment is even lower than what was reasonable to expect. The series needs to be fully rebooted if they want to give it a future.
To be honest I don't even know where we're going with this LOL..
But I think what I'm trying to say is even though more consoles were sold at the end of last gen, I don't think there's particularly that many more people actually playing console and buying games. The main difference is the marketshare has changed and Sony now has the advantage rather than MS, thus Sony games going up while MS games going down. Meaning the 50% drop for Gears, Halo, CoD isn't related to it being a new gen and less hardware sold, for Gears and Halo I think a big part of it is MS just lost the mindshare (Halo had other problems too), and a lot of people who normally would have bought them, have moved over to Sony. As for CoD I think it's just gotten shit and a lot of people don't like it these days. Plus digital.
If you look at most multi platform games they're usually around the same as they've always done give or take a few games that do better/worse but for the most part there's no huge drop offs/increases like there is with exclusives.. Hence why I think MS losing marketshare is a big part of the Halo/Gears drop.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Even at 50% digital uptake, if it's below 94k, it's not a very paintly picture.
Not at all, every annual multiplatform franchise have faced a time where the sales have declined, like Assassin's Creed from the most recent history, Battlefield 1 probably is going to sell less than BF4 because is on less platform and have more competition (and we know that BF4 was huge because he was launched with PS4 and Xbox One and the first week was low due to the imminent launch of the next gen).
To me COD is selling like always is only less front loaded then it was year ago.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
For some weird reason I wish I never knew that. DICE sounds so much cooler.
The EU prime time peak numbers on PS4 this weekend from Friday to Sunday have almost been as high as the US prime time peak on PS4. And I think that US prime time has more EU players still playing (late night in EU) than EU prime time has US players (early morning in US).
firstadopter
Member
Battlefield 1 officially launched on Friday (regular priced SKU). So you're comparing 1 day of regular SKU sales versus 4 days of Division sales?
I don't think you can compare the early enlister SKU which is $20 more expensive vs. the standard edition.
Look at the apples-to-apples. Look at the strong concurrent numbers on day one for BF1.
I don't think you can compare the early enlister SKU which is $20 more expensive vs. the standard edition.
Look at the apples-to-apples. Look at the strong concurrent numbers on day one for BF1.
AC was broken, though.
I wouldn't say they had bigger legs though, they seem about the same. BO3 maybe being the only exception because of the PS4 bundle (first time it was part of the cheapest console bundle instead of having a $50-$100 premium).
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Speaking of Division, man, Ubisoft has hit gold with their new IP's this gen. Watch Dogs, Division, to a lesser extent even The Crew. For honour had a good reception in the beta they had aswell, I can see that selling well.