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K-Pop Fanboy/Fangirl |OT7| A Great Trash Leader as Always

Kazzy

Member
·feist·;227869479 said:
Re: spoiler - We may have as it's hard to avoid the topic for anyone who listens to music from different countries and in multiple languages. You'd have to be willfully ignorant of music and culture to not notice some of the issues.

Yeah, of course. And it's a really interesting subject, particularly when they're trying to court Western audiences, whilst at the same time, trying to codify and individualize that content. The paradoxical nature of it all is pretty profound.

I just didn't want to purposely retread well-worn ground, in case it bores some!
 

No No Eul

Member
LOONA's (mis)adventures in London
이달의소녀탐구 #50 (LOOΠΔ TV #50)
이달의소녀탐구 #51 (LOOΠΔ TV #51)
&#51060;&#45804;&#51032;&#49548;&#45376;&#53456;&#44396; #52 (LOO&#928;&#916; TV #52) <-- GOAT HaSeul
HaSeul so precious, she is giving me Taeyeon vibes. In any case, I really like these short clips, well edited and to the point (it also helps that they are subbed).

Yeah, I'm really enjoying that series. Short and sweet.

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Pendulum

Member
·feist·;227869515 said:
By the way, just to clarify... do you intend to continue posting the racist, hateful and generally reprehensible content you did as "Dokish?"

Just warming up
I have no idea who are all those girls in that megapost, or what group they belong to. Just a bunch of ugly hose.

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Dreamcatcher(&#46300;&#47548;&#52880;&#52432;) 'Chase Me' MV Teaser 1

HELLOVENUS &#54764;&#47196;&#48708;&#45320;&#49828; - Mysterious M/V TEASER 2

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[HICAM]&#54532;&#47532;&#49828;&#54004;&#51032; &#54616;&#51060;&#54616;&#51060;(HI&HIGH)&#52852;&#47700;&#46972;2of5
 

llehuty

Member
C'mon, I'm sure there are plenty of brazilians living in korea that stan one of the Crayon Pop twins and that has an acount in NeoGAF with mildly offensive posting habits.

Dreamcatcher(&#46300;&#47548;&#52880;&#52432;) 'Chase Me' MV Teaser 1
Can't wait.

&#49688;&#51648;(Suzy) "Yes? No?" Short Clip #1
&#49688;&#51648;(Suzy) "Yes? No?" Short Clip #2
JYP really into the voyeur stuff with Miss A and their solos.

170108 &#47215;&#45936;&#50900;&#46300; &#46972;&#51060;&#51669;&#49828;&#53440; - K.A.R.D 'Oh NaNa' &#51649;&#52896; by DaftTaengk
There are plenty of fancams out there, will be cool to start seeing fansites/fancammers surface. Also, I didn't know this fancammer, but those closups mixed with the full group shots is nice. Also, gotta love them doing the PG version of the choreo while the music video is playing in the background, lol.


You are free to point out other groups with better visuals. I'm sure the group is going to have not so pretty members at some point, but at this dispoint, the 4 are super pretty.
 

Pendulum

Member
Knowing Brothers got its highest ratings this week (AOA was on) - just over 4%. Youngchul is going to have to leave the show soon lol

Hani is on next week. That'll be a good one.
 
It's a shame AOA produces shitty music. They seem like a good group according to their Knowing Brothers appearance(it's subbed btw).

I'd like to stan Jimin, Mina and Hyejeong but they really need some good music so I can stan them. Like A Cat is the only good AOA song and it's like 2 years old.

Also, is it true that there were 70 girl groups that debuted in 2012?

Mina or somebody in the ep said that they had a hard time during their debut since they had to compete against 70 other groups... was it really that much and if so, who else from that year managed to actually make it big?
 

Broank

Member
Little late but I tried to make a quick list of my favorite Kpop I heard from 2016

Top 5 fav songs (and the ones I listened to the most):
Secret - Cosmic Girls
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One Step Two Steps - Oh My Girl
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Black Pink - Whistle
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Red Velvet - One of These Nights
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Navillera - Gfriend
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SM station songs of the year:
Pit-a-Pat
Taeyeon's Secret
Henry and Soyu's Runnin
Flute Girl's Regrets and Resolutions
Heechul and Wheein's Narcissus

Album of the year: Pink Ocean/Windy Day

Dance of the year:UP10tion - Attention

Sound like a rusty steak knife cutting through a well aged steak of the year:Trick or Treat - Grace


Pretty decent year overall. Lots of good stuff, could probably pick another 20 or 30 for honorable mentions that I listened to a lot. Not as many all time greats at the top end like 2015 though.
 

Cuddler

Member
A little late but these are my favorite songs released this year ( not in order, besides 2BiC obviously :p ):

&#53804;&#48709; 2BiC - &#45768;&#44032; &#44536;&#47532;&#50892; Missing you (with &#52992;&#51060;&#49884; Kassy)
Missing you is definitely my song of the year, just amazing, a perfect combination of vocals and a great instrumntal part.
&#53804;&#48709; 2BIC - &#49324;&#46993;&#54620; &#44536;&#46412;&#52376;&#47100; Love Memories
My favorite ballad of the year, it's a slow building song, like many 2BiC ballads, but the second part is absolutely amazing. Really underrated even between 2BiC songs.
4minute (&#54252;&#48120;&#45787;) - Blind
Not sure if everyone already forgot about 4minute but their last mini album was really good, not a single forgettable song. I choose Blind because the instrumental part is so good.
&#51228;&#51060;&#50640;&#51060; (JA), QM - Nazca (Feat. Deepflow)
Discovered this in 2017 but was released in 2016, really great chill rap song and QM seems to be a really good rapper.
Apink - BOOM POW LOVE
I liked the more mature (musically) Apink and Boom Pow Love it's my favorite release from them this year, even if Only One and Catch Me were close.
AOA - 10 seconds
Really underrated group musically imo, 10 seconds is one of the best song released this year and one of the few song when the sexy concept is done right imo.
&#48709;&#49828;(VIXX) - Fantasy
Not sure why VIXX isn't more popular because they almost always release great songs and Fantasy is an example.
&#44256;&#45208;&#50689; Koh Nayoung - I Like (feat. Microdot)
Surprise of the year, really great rnb song, unfortunately very underrated.
&#50668;&#51088;&#52828;&#44396;(GFRIEND) _ &#49884;&#44036;&#51012; &#45804;&#47140;&#49436;(Rough)
A perfect example of cutesy/girfriendly concept mixed with a more mature and actually good song.
NCT U_WITHOUT YOU
NCT U debut songs are some of the best debut songs, I posted Without you because it was overshadowed by 7th Sense which is also really great.
Stellarjet (&#49828;&#53588;&#46972;&#51247;) - Guiding Light
Instrumental and vocal are so good in this, Stellarjet seems to release always good songs and this is definitely my favorite.
&#50976;&#50689;&#51652; X D.O._Tell Me (What Is Love)
Best SMStation release for me and one of the best song released this year, D.O. and Yoo Young-jin vocals are so good.
MAMAMOO(&#47560;&#47560;&#47924;) - I Miss You
Incredible song in one of the best album released this year.
MAAN (&#47592;) - Night (&#48164; (Feat. &#51221;&#51068;&#50864;))
A great Indie rock band which always release good song.
 

Eldren

Member
Like A Cat is the only good AOA song.

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kookie please. Like A Cat is one of their worst songs, literally every track on that mini is far superior (except the intro I guess). Have you listened to any of their album tracks? 10 Seconds like Cuddler said is great, Time, Under The Streetlights, Without You, Girl's Heart, Just The Two Of Us, Tears Falling, Cherry Pop. That's not even counting title tracks like Miniskirt and Confused which are still better than most girl group singles. Like A Cat and Heart Attack are their two worst singles.

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Anyway here's a CLC teaser:

Stepping up to replace 4Minute, thanks Cube.
 
You guys probably dont know this because CLC is 'nugu', but CLC's Yeeun is the best rapper out of all the next gen girl groups.

Yeeun at the top followed by the rest of the top tier rappers in no particular order:

Exy
Cathy
Yebin
Lisa
Mimi
Chaeyoung
 
Kang Sira (who was robbed from screen time on Produce 101) will debut as a solo artist later this month.
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One of the better vocalists the show had next you Yeonjung. Those runs in My Best! Hope they give her interesting production.
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And Somi will be a solo artist for the time being. Surprised, because her voice could be really grating in a full song.

2017 should be called Debut 101

I'm also hoping for some good music for Kang Sira. Listening to the P101 songs, her voice really makes a big impact on the sound even if she's not as in-your-face as Yeonjung. Very underrated on that show.

A Somi solo sounds terrible though.
 
kookie please. Like A Cat is one of their worst songs, literally every track on that mini is far superior (except the intro I guess). Have you listened to any of their album tracks?

Nope.

Here's the thing with me and AOA, I had to force myself to listen to their stuff a year ago coz I know they were getting big and I thought I'd be missing out on something but that hasn't been the case with them. Like A Cat is the only thing I like and that's even kind of a stretch... it's the most listenable one for me imo.

I've given AOA a chance for every release they have done in the last year and I'm still arriving to the same conclusion... they're just not for me. That said, I'm still gonna keep giving their releases at least one listen but until they can actually release something really good, consider me not a fan of AOA at all.

Curiosity just got the best of me so I did some research and now I know why their music sucks... Brave Brothers is fncking garbage.
 

llehuty

Member
&#50500;&#51060;(I)_&#44036;&#51208;&#55176; &#48148;&#46972;&#47732; &#51060;&#47364;&#51656; &#44144;&#50556;(Feat. Tiger JK)_(Teaser)
Engrish aside, this sounds good. Sometimes, solo artist get the blandest productions in kpop, but I glad that is not the case here.

EXID - Up & Down (Chinese Version) Official Music Video
Really nice looking MV. I like that they sticked with the korean for the chorus, since it's such an essential part of the song.

Noday (&#45432;&#45936;&#51060;) - Be Cool (Feat. &#50532;&#46300;&#47448; &#52572; (Andrew Choi)) MV
A safe but effective funky production.

A little late but these are my favorite songs released this year ( not in order, besides 2BiC obviously :p ):
&#44256;&#45208;&#50689; Koh Nayoung - I Like (feat. Microdot)
Surprise of the year, really great rnb song, unfortunately very underrated.
I really like your pics. And Koh Nayoung is releasing new stuff this week!.

&#44256;&#45208;&#50689; Koh Nayoung - &#52264;&#44032;&#50868; &#48164;, &#46384;&#46907;&#54664;&#45912; &#45320; Cold night, You were warm. Teaser 1
 

Eldren

Member
Nope.

Here's the thing with me and AOA, I had to force myself to listen to their stuff a year ago coz I know they were getting big and I thought I'd be missing out on something but that hasn't been the case with them. Like A Cat is the only thing I like and that's even kind of a stretch... it's the most listenable one for me imo.

I've given AOA a chance for every release they have done in the last year and I'm still arriving to the same conclusion... they're just not for me. That said, I'm still gonna keep giving their releases at least one listen but until they can actually release something really good, consider me not a fan of AOA at all.

Curiosity just got the best of me so I did some research and now I know why their music sucks... Brave Brothers is fncking garbage.

Fair enough. I still think you should check out some their album tracks before you completely dismiss them but if they're not for you then that's fair. Can't really argue with that.

Brave Bros can be pretty good when the music is more restrained, but he tends to go too far with AOA's singles and it just sounds obnoxious.

Edit: actually you know what, that's hypocritical of me. I never give a chance to groups like Lovelyz or April or whatever because I can't make it through like a minute of their music lol. Do what you gotta do man.
 

llehuty

Member
Fair enough. I still think you should check out some their album tracks before you completely dismiss them but if they're not for you then that's fair. Can't really argue with that.

Brave Bros can be pretty good when the music is more restrained, but he tends to go too far with AOA's singles and it just sounds obnoxious.

Peak AOA x Brave Bros was Shorthair, they even got the less annoying version of Jimin on that. Like a Cat with the meme horns and Jimin interjections every 5 seconds... YUCKK

I enjoy some AOA tracks (Get Out, Short Hair, Heart Attack, 10 seconds...) But there are so many groups releasing better stuff than them, is hard to justify them as one of the top groups, tbh.
 

llehuty

Member
Even if it makes total sense now, I never expected Cube placing CLC as 4 minute replacement. IS actually a really good move by them, I'm shocked.
 
Fair enough. I still think you should check out some their album tracks before you completely dismiss them but if they're not for you then that's fair. Can't really argue with that.

Brave Bros can be pretty good when the music is more restrained, but he tends to go too far with AOA's singles and it just sounds obnoxious.

Edit: actually you know what, that's hypocritical of me. I never give a chance to groups like Lovelyz or April or whatever because I can't make it through like a minute of their music lol. Do what you gotta do man.

I looked at Brave Bros catalog in Wikipedia and if that is true, the only good songs he's ever produced is Sistar's My Boy and Alone.

What a trash can of a producer lol.

Also lol at the edit. I'm waiting for Lovelyz to get really big before I attempt going through their title tracks. I already stan Ye-in all day every day so they just need a really good song too then I'll be onboard 100%.

But there are so many groups releasing better stuff than them, is hard to justify them as one of the top groups, tbh.

Yep. I'm taking a look at the list of K-Pop groups that debuted in 2012 and the only ones that achieved huge success is EXID (EXO too but they're dudes and IDGAF about them).

The only ones that really stand out on that list is 15&, Spica and Hello Venus. I have no clue who the rest are(Yes I'm ignoring TTS coz it's Soshi lol). 15& coz I'm a fan, Spica because everyone in here is dying for a comeback, and Hello Venus coz the name sounds familiar lol.
 

llehuty

Member
I looked at Brave Bros catalog in Wikipedia and if that is true, the only good songs he's ever produced is Sistar's My Boy and Alone.

What a trash can of a producer lol.

Wut?
Check Your meds.

He is hit and miss, but he has PLENTY of hits.

After School - Because of you
After School Red - Night into the sky
BESTie - Love Options
Brave Girls - Deepened

Chersee - White shirt
C-Real - No No No
Dal Shabet - Someone Like U
Stellar - Cry
Sunmi - Full Moon (Co-produced with JYP)
Ze:A - Breathe

Specially the bolded.
*Triggered*
 

llehuty

Member
Speaking of LOONA, I read the other day, that the reason for the pretentious spelling is that they are using the first characters of every syllable of the korean name to spell it.


From: &#51060;&#45804;&#51032; &#49548;&#45376;
 

roaSone

Member
I found that yesterday as well, and that means Monthly Girls. They're going all the way with the months concept, kinda cool.
 

No No Eul

Member
Yep. I'm taking a look at the list of K-Pop groups that debuted in 2012 and the only ones that achieved huge success is EXID (EXO too but they're dudes and IDGAF about them).

The heck happened to those lists? They used to be so much longer, featuring literally hundreds and hundreds of groups (most of which, to be fair, nobody had ever heard of). I'm sure Mina wasn't exaggerating though when she said that there were seventy other new groups in 2012.
 

angelcurry

Neo Member
A little late but these are my favorite songs released this year ( not in order, besides 2BiC obviously :p ):

&#53804;&#48709; 2BiC - &#45768;&#44032; &#44536;&#47532;&#50892; Missing you (with &#52992;&#51060;&#49884; Kassy)
Missing you is definitely my song of the year, just amazing, a perfect combination of vocals and a great instrumntal part.
&#53804;&#48709; 2BIC - &#49324;&#46993;&#54620; &#44536;&#46412;&#52376;&#47100; Love Memories
My favorite ballad of the year, it's a slow building song, like many 2BiC ballads, but the second part is absolutely amazing. Really underrated even between 2BiC songs.
4minute (&#54252;&#48120;&#45787;) - Blind
Not sure if everyone already forgot about 4minute but their last mini album was really good, not a single forgettable song. I choose Blind because the instrumental part is so good.
&#51228;&#51060;&#50640;&#51060; (JA), QM - Nazca (Feat. Deepflow)
Discovered this in 2017 but was released in 2016, really great chill rap song and QM seems to be a really good rapper.
Apink - BOOM POW LOVE
I liked the more mature (musically) Apink and Boom Pow Love it's my favorite release from them this year, even if Only One and Catch Me were close.
AOA - 10 seconds
Really underrated group musically imo, 10 seconds is one of the best song released this year and one of the few song when the sexy concept is done right imo.
&#48709;&#49828;(VIXX) - Fantasy
Not sure why VIXX isn't more popular because they almost always release great songs and Fantasy is an example.
&#44256;&#45208;&#50689; Koh Nayoung - I Like (feat. Microdot)
Surprise of the year, really great rnb song, unfortunately very underrated.
&#50668;&#51088;&#52828;&#44396;(GFRIEND) _ &#49884;&#44036;&#51012; &#45804;&#47140;&#49436;(Rough)
A perfect example of cutesy/girfriendly concept mixed with a more mature and actually good song.
NCT U_WITHOUT YOU
NCT U debut songs are some of the best debut songs, I posted Without you because it was overshadowed by 7th Sense which is also really great.
Stellarjet (&#49828;&#53588;&#46972;&#51247;) - Guiding Light
Instrumental and vocal are so good in this, Stellarjet seems to release always good songs and this is definitely my favorite.
&#50976;&#50689;&#51652; X D.O._Tell Me (What Is Love)
Best SMStation release for me and one of the best song released this year, D.O. and Yoo Young-jin vocals are so good.
MAMAMOO(&#47560;&#47560;&#47924;) - I Miss You
Incredible song in one of the best album released this year.
MAAN (&#47592;) - Night (&#48164; (Feat. &#51221;&#51068;&#50864;))
A great Indie rock band which always release good song.

this is a great list
 

llehuty

Member
The heck happened to those lists? They used to be so much longer, featuring literally hundreds and hundreds of groups (most of which, to be fair, nobody had ever heard of). I'm sure Mina wasn't exaggerating though when she said that there were seventy other new groups in 2012.

Wikipedia decided that these list could only include entries that have their own wikipedia page, so all the small groups were edited out. A mistake, IMO, but I can see where they were coming from.
 
Wut?
Check Your meds.

He is hit and miss, but he has PLENTY of hits.

So he only had 10 hits?

Lol.

Kidding aside, Sunmi's Full Moon is the only one that I recognize off that list.

How many of these actually became real hits though? As in they hit the top 10 of MelON or whatever chart for more than a day. I don't follow charts tbh but I do know that if they actually hit the top 10 then there's usually a lot of talk of the song here, r/Kpop and Asian Junkie... and if that was the case then I'd definitely give them a click.

And out of that list, Deepened is the only really good song out of the 10... I need to add it to my playlist lol.

Wikipedia decided that these list could only include entries that have their own wikipedia page, so all the small groups were edited out. A mistake, IMO, but I can see where they were coming from.

I actually think this is a good idea. I mean sure it does dwindle down the list by a lot but let's be honest, those groups that were left off... I'm pretty sure they didn't make it out alive after debut. I guess it kinda sucks that they weren't even a blip on the radar but that's just the way it is.
 

llehuty

Member
So he only had 10 hits?

Lol.

Kidding aside, Sunmi's Full Moon is the only one that I recognize off that list.

How many of these actually became real hits though? As in they hit the top 10 of MelON or whatever chart for more than a day. I don't follow charts tbh but I do know that if they actually hit the top 10 then there's usually a lot of talk of the song here, r/Kpop and Asian Junkie... and if that was the case then I'd definitely give them a click.

And out of that list, Deepened is the only really good song out of the 10... I need to add it to my playlist lol.
I was using hit meaning "good songs". From the list, Because of you is the really popular one. Not sure about Full Moon, maybe you are right. The point is, Brave Bros can make good music, and 2016 has been his best year in a while, IMO. In honor of oc making an appeareance, I will link one of his favourite sections in a song made by Brave Bros, that he replayed NON stop during the days of ustream (RIP, nostalgic AF now).

I will add 5 more solid Brave Bros songs, so we now have a list of 15 :p

After School - Ah
Son Dambi - Dripping Tears
Electroboyz - MaBoy2
Rania - Pop Pop Pop
4Minute - Is it poppin?
 
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