butman
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The GOAT, will never be topped.
Can you actually play comfortably Monster Hunter and Xenoblade with this screen size?
The GOAT, will never be topped.
Sounds kinda low, especially considering there should be a New Switch SKU by then. Also Splatoon 3. And Pocket Monsters.
That was PS4 they predicted for 100 million by 2020
Its a game console. That turns into a handheld. My parents even understand the concept, you're trying too hard and failing at it.
Is this how it's going to be for the entire Switch life cycle when if you argue from the point of view of being a handheld Nintendo fans say it's a home console and if you argue from a home console point of view they say it's a handheld.
Perpetually moving goal posts.
Sure, but it took a complete reversal of policies and philosophy and massive price cuts to get there. I'd say the views for that video pretty accurately reflect how much interest there was in the Xbox One leading up to release and immediately thereafter. The distinction between it and the Wii U in sales may say a lot about how the two companies reacted differently to their systems' failure to launch, but it doesn't say much of anything with respect to prelaunch interest.
I guess they didn't realize traditional gaming has shrunken at the time.They predicted 100 mill for x1 too at some point.
Is this how it's going to be for the entire Switch life cycle when if you argue from the point of view of being a handheld Nintendo fans say it's a home console and if you argue from a home console point of view they say it's a handheld.
Perpetually moving goal posts.
Reminds me how Destiny is and isn't a MMO whenever it's convenient.Is this how it's going to be for the entire Switch life cycle when if you argue from the point of view of being a handheld Nintendo fans say it's a home console and if you argue from a home console point of view they say it's a handheld.
Perpetually moving goal posts.
No. It's just that you can Switch the goalposts whenever you want.
Pretty convenient!
You and anybody who hates Nintendo will be moving goalposts all around. Well...it's already happening.Is this how it's going to be for the entire Switch life cycle when if you argue from the point of view of being a handheld Nintendo fans say it's a home console and if you argue from a home console point of view they say it's a handheld.
Perpetually moving goal posts.
I think it will take price cuts and rehaul of their OS and online policies to get Switch up to that mark as well. It's not going to sell 26 mil units at $300 and up with sub-optimal online services without expected apps and browser and it will require a yearly fee.
Sounds kinda low, especially considering there should be a New Switch SKU by then. Also Splatoon 3. And Pocket Monsters.
You were one of the parents who bought a cheap 2DS last year with Pokemon Stars Moon for your kids. Switch is actually easier for smaller kids to use than a 3DS, due to the joycons and stand. I would also not underestimate the two controllers that are suitable for kids - for games like Splatoon2, MK8 Deluxe, Super Bombermam, Snipperclips, Skylanders, Fast RMX, LEGO City Undercover, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Sonic Mania, Shovel Knight etc the device and control scheme is a much better value than 3DS at launch.
Lets also not forget the evergreen kid title Minecraft is coming to the Switch this year and will never launch on 3DS/2DS
3DS at launch was a far worse value than Switch at launch for parents - especially without worrying about whether 3D is actually good for young kids
Its no surprise that Parental Controls video is in the top 5 most watched videos in several Nintendo channels.
40 Million is low?
The Wii U just did 13 mill...
Here's the thing I don't understand about people speculating on a "console-only" or "portable-only" version of the Nintendo Switch. Isn't the hybrid design the entire point of the console, so wouldn't releasing two separate SKUs work against the entire console itself? Everything from the battery life, read-only cards, smartphone app, prices of accessories, etc., were all part of sacrifices and compromises of the design. I can't imagine that Nintendo would want to throw all of that out the window.
Is this how it's going to be for the entire Switch life cycle when if you argue from the point of view of being a handheld Nintendo fans say it's a home console and if you argue from a home console point of view they say it's a handheld.
Perpetually moving goal posts.
Reminds me how Destiny is and isn't a MMO whenever it's convenient.
It's a pain in the ass to argue with.
Even 10 million by 2020 seems impossible. The reaction on GAF is what, 90-95% fiercely negative? You keep seeing people over and over say they are cancelling their preorders even. No way the first day will sell through with all those cancellations either at this point honestly.
1-1.5 mil of the initial 2 million day one sold out is a safe bet yeah?
Even 10 million by 2020 seems impossible. The reaction on GAF is what, 90-95% fiercely negative? You keep seeing people over and over say they are cancelling their preorders even. No way the first day will sell through with all those cancellations either at this point honestly
Most parents today used to have a SNES. And Switch is SNES reborn: Bomberman, Street Fighter 2, Mario Kart or VC games: these local multiplayer focused games remind it easily.Most parents today will give their children a smartphone on which they can play crappy free-to-play games the whole day through. A $300 Nintendo Switch with $60 games is a very expensive luxury that most kids will have to do without.
40 million in 3 years....It will really depend on:
-How much of the 3DS/Vita market they can get on board as the only portable option as 3DS support dries up.
-How many lapsed Nintendo fans that skipped the Wii U and/or 3DS they can get back on board.
-How many PS4/X1/PC gamers they can convince that the Switch is an ideal complementary console to whatever they have.
Even as skeptical as I am, I see this selling in the 40-50 million range when all is said and done, after price drops, maybe hardware revisions (portable only/console only versions down the road perhaps). 40 million by 2020 is pretty o1ptimistic though.
Here's the thing I don't understand about people speculating on a "console-only" or "portable-only" version of the Nintendo Switch. Isn't the hybrid design the entire point of the console, so wouldn't releasing two separate SKUs work against the entire console itself? Everything from the battery life, read-only cards, smartphone app, prices of accessories, etc., were all part of sacrifices and compromises of the design. I can't imagine that Nintendo would want to throw all of that out the window.
40 million in 3 years....
Even 10 million by 2020 seems impossible. The reaction on GAF is what, 90-95% fiercely negative? You keep seeing people over and over say they are cancelling their preorders even. No way the first day will sell through with all those cancellations either at this point honestly.
1-1.5 mil of the initial 2 million day one sold out is a safe bet yeah?
40 million is conservative? Sounds great to me!
I would remind you of the reaction on GAF to the Wii.
Here's the thing I don't understand about people speculating on a "console-only" or "portable-only" version of the Nintendo Switch. Isn't the hybrid design the entire point of the console, so wouldn't releasing two separate SKUs work against the entire console itself? Everything from the battery life, read-only cards, smartphone app, prices of accessories, etc., were all part of sacrifices and compromises of the design. I can't imagine that Nintendo would want to throw all of that out the window.
You really can't compare anything to the Wii. Remember the WiiU? How soon we forget.
That being said I am not sure about this prediction. The next PS and MS console will almost certainly be released before then so competition is fierce.
You really can't compare anything to the Wii. Remember the WiiU? How soon we forget.
That being said I am not sure about this prediction. The next PS and MS console will almost certainly be released before then so competition is fierce.
I never said GAF didn't predict the Wii U correctly (although GAF thought the Wii U would do much better than they thought the Wii would do), just that GAF is clearly not a good indicator of success.
DS, Wii, 3DS were all going to bomb super hard according to this website.
WiiU and Vita were going to bomb super hard according to this website and they did. See generalised statements are easy to use to discredit actual arguments.
WiiU and Vita were going to bomb super hard according to this website and they did. See generalised statements are easy to use to discredit actual arguments.
2/5 would generally be considered a bad score, anyways.
Not including the Wii, the last Nintendo home console to surpass 40m was the SNES. That's pretty insane.
So can Switch really do it? I'd say yes but only if they have the proper games. PS4 hit 40m and it took around 3 years right? A console that's done everything almost perfectly since launch. So yeah, it's kind a a stretch to expect Switch to hit 40m by 2020.
WiiU and Vita were going to bomb super hard according to this website and they did. See generalised statements are easy to use to discredit actual arguments.
2/5 would generally be considered a bad score, anyways.
This:
And how is that a generalized statement, and how is "GAF thinks Switch is shit so it can't possibly do well" (which is the only thing I'm responding to) an actual argument? Is it that controversial to argue that this website generally is a very poor predictor of mainstream success?