Finally some prices.. I'm probably looking at the XBR-55X900E or XBR-55X800E..
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: This is a fantasy based on OLED
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Finally some prices.. I'm probably looking at the XBR-55X900E or XBR-55X800E..
They could, they just need to Ask you to pay a Premium. More bandwith = bigger filesize.
Mr. Wonderful
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+1.
When I first started watching 4K Netflix, I missed the bitrate per resolution of 1080p Blu-ray. Now when I watch 1080p Blu-rays, I miss the resolution of 4K Netflix.
Art Vandilay
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What are the differences in the B6 and C6 now besides the curve and 3D? I'm leaning B6 since it seems to have better input lag after the most recent update. Pulling the trigger this week most likely.
Helpful thanks. It seems my bandwidth is too low currently (18mbps, I believe 25mbps is needed) as the HDR sign doesn't pop up while playing the content but that will change in a few months time.
holygeesus
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C6 has one less HDMI port.
Have you tried Grand Tour on Amazon? Very nice HDR, too!
But from my experience Amazon needs more bandwidth than Netflix
Art Vandilay
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I know I've seen your avatar at avsforum too. Which do you suggest, B6 or C6? Are they all getting the HLG update?
holygeesus
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I think any future firmware update is tricky to speculate on given how slow LG have been to release the HDR Game update in the UK. At this point I'd wait a few weeks to see what the new range launch at and how Sony's set competes, depending on funds. If I had to make the choice now, I'd probably get the C6 personally. Given how the price tends to be the same, I'd take 3D over an extra HDMI port any day, and on current firmware (EU) it is the better set for gaming.
You'd be surprised at how minimalist the curve is if you saw it in person, and I hate curved TVs. I opted for the C6P over the B6P at the time because there was no firmware update for the variable input lag on the B6P.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Bought the B6. Loving it so far, but it doesn't seem to behave with my VSX-1131 @ 4K. Direct connection to the TV seems perfectly fine.
Insane Metal
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Lol no one gives a fuc* about Samsung's 2017 lineup. 
Lol no one gives a fuc* about Samsung's 2017 lineup.
I hope that entry-level successor of KU6000 will at least have WCG this year. Apart of that, I don't care much about their offerings.
I was not expecting the X930E to be anywhere near that price considering it doesn't have full array local dimming. The OLED is going to cost a fortune.
The dream is dead.
Ok GAF I've started using Nvidia Shield TV and I'm trying to Gamestream 4k to my LG 55E6. The lag is additive, so I am having to use game mode for the first time. I'm trying to tame the overblown color look from the forced wide gamut. I know some of you have conquered this, so if you could share your settings I'd like to compare. Thanks.
Lol. They're doing this with the pricing again? When will they stop? Past two years now they have these high prices that get slashed after one week to one month after launch.
mikezilla2
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wait which ones are sonys oleds ?
Set contrast to 80-84 and colour to 45 to compensate for the over-saturated colours. Colour temperature at W40-44.
Theonik
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That's fine tbh. They give retailers a lot of room to bring those prices down on purpose.
No sense in starting cheap when you can drop.
Speaking of which, Samsung just put their "QLED" TVs up on their us website and it seems prices are ramping up too :
http://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/qled-tvs/55--class-q7f-qled-4k-tv-qn55q7famfxza/#specs
2.5k USD for the 55" Q7 (which I suppose is the successor of the KS8000/KS7000EUR)...
Making me more and more leaning on getting that KS7000 (in Europe, so US KS8000) on the cheap soon
Surprised by the SONY pricing here : I remember seeing a recent video from a Sony Rep in France mentioning a starting price of 2500 EUR for the XE93 (found it back : https://youtu.be/eiAQLKyA0m0) 3300 USD seems...Steep...maybe accounting for Trump tax anticipatively?
Prisoner KSC2-303
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Seeing the 2017 prices makes me more inclined to go for the B6 now.
guitarguy316
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No reason not to get a b6 or try to hold out and see what others say about 2017 B series once released. On paper the specs aren't a huge change imo.
Yeah, Peak Brightness seems to be the biggest upgrade that was obvious in the spec sheet at CES, and it's moving from 650 something to 800 something. It's good for HDR content, but a) still not enough to cover the 1000 nits spectrum and b) not a huge boost either.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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That's what I'm thinking. I'm hoping for slight price drop when the 2017 LGs start appearing, and by that time hopefully the UK will have got the update to fix the HDR input lag.
Go C6, it has the better SoC, so it should be more future proof.
And forget about RTings.
holygeesus
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There is no evidence at all that the SoC is better in the C6 and neither will have any influence on future proofing either set. No idea why you keep bringing this up. They are both running the OS perfectly fine.
If anything you could argue the B6 is the better chip as lag is less.
If you have a citi or chase card you can get the 65 inch b6 for around $2000 after price match. No reason to wait longer.
Dr.Horrible
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Please explain how this works. I've been eyeing that TV for a while now and have a Chase card. Thanks.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Question re: LG B6 OLED: is there like a thin screen protection layer on the display when you take it out of the box? It kind of looks like I can peel it off but I'm afraid.
Go read about your credit card's benefits. They're likely referring to price protection, using one of the sleazy online vendors with unrealistic prices to get some cash back.
Dr.Horrible
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Okay, thanks. It doesn't look like that'd work for me right now as I want to buy it from a retail store and all of them have it priced over $3k again, I believe. The Chase benefits are limited to $500 item. I'm also not sure if they accept some of those oddball sites.
Robobandit
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I can confirm that the VSX-1130 plays perfectly well with the B6 @ 4k. I had to enable a setting on my AVR for the inputs..
I'm not sure if this setting is available on the VSX-1131.. but try this -
KharmaPolice
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I thought the same upon receiving my B6 but apparently there is nothing to peel off.
Best non-calibration advice is to google settings for that model, go to the sites (usually forums like AVS) and see the posts that have a ton of "thanks that worked for me" type responses...then tinker yourself.
Buy the TV from echo and optics or ielectra then call the chase price match line and price match against Eastcoasttv. There is a good guide in the avsforum oled deals found thread.
Maaaaaardy
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Alright, I bought a B6! Doesn't arrive for two weeks though D: Also, what the hell is the deal with the Sky Q offer? Even the guy in store said he has literally no idea and they (Sky and LG) won't tell them.
holygeesus
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You have to go to the LG website to redeem the offer.
Data Ghost
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Also, it's free for 12 months BUT you have to commit to an 18 month contract and pay for installation. I was willing to give Sky a shot, but I hardly watch TV so for that reason, I'm out.
I recently ordered an LG B6, but I'm still using a 2010 Samsung Home Cinema / Receiver combo that doesn't support ARC nor 4K/HDR.
I'm not exactly an audio expert, but would the following work and use my home cinema setup for the sound?
PS4 Pro -> directly into HDMI in TV -> Optical to receiver
Non-4K devices -> Receiver -> HDMI in TV
(On a sidenote, can I just buy a 4K/HDR receiver in the future and use my current speakers on it? Seems pretty straightforward, but asking can't hurt)
I'm not exactly an audio expert, but would the following work and use my home cinema setup for the sound?
PS4 Pro -> directly into HDMI in TV -> Optical to receiver
Non-4K devices -> Receiver -> HDMI in TV
(On a sidenote, can I just buy a 4K/HDR receiver in the future and use my current speakers on it? Seems pretty straightforward, but asking can't hurt)
Optical will work, however you will sacrifice some audio quality. The latter question depends on the speakers. Are they ones that were bundled in with a blu ray player receiver? What is the ohm rating? Typically htib speakers are 3 ohms and do not go with off the shelf receivers. If they are 8 ohms it should be fine.
LG built two different SoC for their 2016 lineup. One is in the B6, the other in the C6, E6 and G6. The B6 is the cheapest entry price set, that doesn't have 3D, so it got a the cheaper SoC, whereas the SoC in the top of the line models has to do more heavy lifting.
What's not to understand?
Oh, and do you have any hard data comparing the lag? And no, Rtings flawed methods don't count.
Well do you have any hard data comparing the SoC about "future proofness"?
No, "future proof" is always a possibility, no one knows how the future will play out.
What we do know is, that LG plans for more features added via firmware, and my speculation is that the beefier SoC might be better for more heavy lifting.
Ok pure speculation then.
Also it's not like with Android phones or anything where all models get the same update around the same time (see HDR/HDCP update) which, in Android case, over time slows old models down. LG release firmware for each model individually
Even worse: LG usually offers newer FW via website that are not available on the TVs themselves (yet).
Hamster Plugin
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Does SDR (non-HDR) content look great on the LG OLED TV's? I'm guessing that PC games are going to be in SDR for at least another year and I want the TV buy to be worth it immediately.
My plan was to buy an Nvidia Shield TV for some 4K Netflix and using Gamestream to get PC games to my TV. That is also meant to support HDR if any game has it.
My plan was to buy an Nvidia Shield TV for some 4K Netflix and using Gamestream to get PC games to my TV. That is also meant to support HDR if any game has it.
As long as you are willing to calibrate the ISF light, ISF dark (and HDR) settings, and switch between those, the picture is amazing.