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[Replicant]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll own my shit when it stinks up the room.

I'm totally entrenched on this one. I hate what the MCU has done to the modern blockbuster and the comic book adaptation. Shit is neutered.

All I can do is bitch and moan like an old person and big up the John Wicks and Fury Roads of cinema (and hopefully LOGAN, as well).

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

NO ONE forced WB to follow in the lead of Marvel's footsteps. Only idiots will see a successful person or business and try to imitate it without doing the groundwork for it. FOX certainly had no interest n following Marvel's formula and they manage to carve their own small winnings from it when they tried hard. Because instead of crying like a little kid "But Marvel did it too!", they're looking to see how they can compete in different kind of manner.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

They should get Matthew Vaughan to do it. He saved X-Men from oblivion and he has a very consistent history with comic book movies.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Happy to hear that this might just be a negotiation tactic. I hope they lock down a director soon, DC could use some good news.

They should get Matthew Vaughan to do it. He saved X-Men from oblivion and he has a very consistent history with comic book movies.

I'd love for him to do another cape film, whether at WB or Fox. I don't know that I would give him Batman though, I think his sense of humor and style could do wonders for Superman.

 

[GeeTeeCee]

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

Please tell me this is sarcasm, because some of you are taking these blockbuster films designed to sell toys to kids way too seriously.

I remember why I don't go in these threads anymore - they turn grown adults into schoolyard children.

They're fucking comic book films. You'll all be okay.

 

[Ashhong]

Warner, that's a line FROM a Batman movie.

Edit:







And now I want this.

Dude, it's not like that line was said by Warner lol

 

[Gastone]

Just get Paul Verhoeven to direct it.

 

[PhantomZone]

Glad this is happening, DC/WB universe is a disaster.

Just get Paul Verhoeven to direct it.

He'd give Batman guns, lots of blood kills AND gratuitous nudity

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I mean, maybe Reeves told rhem he needed a year break before starting the new batman movie, and they couldnt agree to it because of scheduling. Maybe he requested a few years break.

 

[medrew]

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

Good lord, I envy your sheltered life (or youth) if this is what disgusts you.
Some of you guys take this stuff far too seriously for what is at best a few hours of mindless fun.

 

[CaviarMeths]

They should get Matthew Vaughan to do it. He saved X-Men from oblivion and he has a very consistent history with comic book movies.

I didn't love First Class as much as the rest of you (it's top tier when it's about Charles and Erik, pretty mediocre when it's about anyone else), but Vaughn could make a pretty slick DC movie.

 

[Apocryphon]

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

This seems wholly unnecessary.

They should give the franchise to Sam Mendes.

 

[Discotheque]

Omg at that clown post. When mahvel/dc becomes a religion

 

[LewieP]

I didn't love First Class as much as the rest of you (it's top tier when it's about Charles and Erik, pretty mediocre when it's about anyone else), but Vaughn could make a pretty slick DC movie.

Kevin Bacon was fantastic, too.

 

[Replicant]

Good lord, I envy your sheltered life (or youth) if this is what disgusts you.
Some of you guys take this stuff far too seriously for what is at best a few hours of mindless fun.

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

 

[F0rneus]

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

No big fan of the DCEU but I think you are going way too hard on this. This is just movies dude, come on.

 

[- J - D -]

They gotta get James Mangold on Batman before the Logan spin-off becomes more than just a twinkle in his eye.

 

[SolidChamp]

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

What in the holy fucking hell?

1. I am NOTHING like Trump, and I hate the man and EVERYTHING he represents. Comparing me to him, as a result of a discussion on a goddamn fucking comic book movie universe, is one of the most fucked up things anyone has ever said to me, period.

2. You don't know the first goddamn thing about me, you only think you do.

3. I'm talking about trendsetting and successful business models and how other people tend to jump on said trends in an attempt to capitalize on it. DC/WB is doing this, and failing miserably because they wanted to rush to the table. They saw the MCU pie and wanted a piece of it. How you've managed to twist my words so far beyond that meaning is beyond me. Marvel is a company doing good business using one movie to market the next five, and so on. They started this shit. Nobody else has come close to it. But others are certainly interested in following the "Cinematic Universe" trend.

4. You're a self-righteous motherfucker and you can get fucked. Asshole.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

Yeah, let's not bring up Trump in a Batman discussion, shall we?

 

[- J - D -]

Whoa whoa whoa time to chill out, mates.

 

[CaviarMeths]

Kevin Bacon was fantastic, too.

He was. Unfortunately, he shares most of his screen time with January Jones.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY is great and is leagues above THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES isn't a good movie.

Don't worry. Movies can be great entertainment without being produced by Hitchcock.

Seems Champ wants to throw the term auteur around like some student who has taken one film studies class and think they're an expert on what makes good cinema.

It doesn't have to be John Wick, but that helps too.

For the record I hated the idea of Guardians of the Galaxy and I ended up loving it.

 

[- J - D -]

He was. Unfortunately, he shares most of his screen time with January Jones.

It's not so bad. In some of those scenes she doesn't speak.

 

[shira]

Just get Paul Verhoeven to direct it.

The sex scenes will be steamy af

 

[giant_frying_pan]

It's going to be Zack, isn't it.

 

[Zakalwe]

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

NO ONE forced WB to follow in the lead of Marvel's footsteps. Only idiots will see a successful person or business and try to imitate it without doing the groundwork for it. FOX certainly had no interest n following Marvel's formula and they manage to carve their own small winnings from it when they tried hard. Because instead of crying like a little kid "But Marvel did it too!", they're looking to see how they can compete in different kind of manner.

"Crying like a little kid"

Do you do irony, dude?

 

[Kaswa101]

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

Lol @ you actually doubling down on your terrible post. 😂

 

[F0rneus]

It's going to be Zack, isn't it.

It almost seems inevitable at this point. Oh well, he did nail that warehouse scene so....We'll see?

 

[shira]

It's going to be Zack, isn't it.

Is the batmobile going to be gun shaped with guns all over it?

 

[broncobuster]

This thread got more serious than the Batman fan film where he's tased on the groin and forced to do heroin by the direct/writer/actor (No, it's not Snyder).

 

[- J - D -]

It almost seems inevitable at this point. Oh well, he did nail that warehouse scene so....We'll see?

That, but I will never let go of the Watchmen opening scene and Doc Manhattan sequence. Some day we'll get that Snyder back.

Man why can't MoS or BvS have scenes that good? They should just make Justice League be 3 hours of montage sequences because that's obviously what Zack excels in.

 

[SolidChamp]

Don't worry. Movies can be great entertainment without being produced by Hitchcock.

Seems Champ wants to throw the term auteur around like some student who has taken one film studies class and think they're an expert on what makes good cinema.

It doesn't have to be John Wick, but that helps too.

For the record I hated the idea of Guardians of the Galaxy and I ended up loving it.

This thread continues to provide the goods. Do tell me more about myself, please and thank you. I'll be sure to correct you on what my major and minor studies were.

Hardcore, sensitive MCU fanboys are the worst.

I think I'll stay away from these threads from now on. It's a shame about the state of movie fandom as a result of this shit. Can't have a discussion on objective things without someone taking it as a personal affront to their own enjoyment of said films. That is not what I'm trying to say.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Fuck it.

Bring back Tim Burton and Danny Elfmen.

You know whats funny was he was let go because Returns was too dark.
Yet Nolan's and BvS both feel darker and or heavier than it did.

(there are elements that were certainly a bit much but in general its definitely how I feel about it)

 

[whytemyke]

You are pathetic and people like you disgusts me. You're the kind who'll follow a successful action but when you fail to get in on the success, you'll blame others instead of yourself for following blindly hoping to get the same result. You're the kind who'd avoid accountability for your actions and prefer to blame others instead.

NO ONE forced WB to follow in the lead of Marvel's footsteps. Only idiots will see a successful person or business and try to imitate it without doing the groundwork for it. FOX certainly had no interest n following Marvel's formula and they manage to carve their own small winnings from it when they tried hard. Because instead of crying like a little kid "But Marvel did it too!", they're looking to see how they can compete in different kind of manner.

Nah. I encountered people like him IRL and they are like Trump, are full of shit, take no accountability of their actions, and blame others instead when things are wrong. It makes life unpleasant for others as you can see in the US now.

This is about blockbuster films, true. But shifting blame when things go wrong is a shitty human trait that people tend to hand wave when they should be addressed directly.

You honestly come off here as either incredibly mentally unhinged or like the biggest asshole ever. I really think you need to go take a nap until you can put your big boy pants on and stop insulting people over a fucking directorial deviation of a colic book movie.

 

[CaviarMeths]

This thread continues to provide the goods. Do tell me more about myself, please and thank you. I'll be sure to correct you on what my major and minor studies were.

Hardcore, sensitive MCU fanboys are the worst.

I think I'll stay away from these threads from now on. It's a shame about the state of movie fandom as a result of this shit. Can't have a discussion on objective things without someone taking it as a personal affront to their own enjoyment of said films. That is not what I'm trying to say.

It's ridiculous, no doubt. Shame people can't disagree about cape movies without being called a fascist.

But "discussion of objective things," in my mind, doesn't include fantasies about how the MCU is ruining everything. You actually said that it's Marvel's fault that DC is making shitty films and I'm still not sure if you were serious or not.

 

[SolidChamp]

It's ridiculous, no doubt. Shame people can't disagree about cape movies without being called a fascist.

But "discussion of objective things," in my mind, doesn't include fantasies about how the MCU is ruining everything. You actually said that it's Marvel's fault that DC is making shitty films and I'm still not sure if you were serious or not.

I can't repeat myself enough for you, can I? Here we go, one last time:

DC is rushing to the same table that Marvel has already set and is feasting at. It's a trend, you see. DC only has themselves to blame for stumbling and making horrible shit like Suicide Squad. They're fucking their own movies up. But it's this "universification" of movie branding that the MCU started that has companies eyeing this as a business model; how do we mass market the movies we have planned 5-10 years down the road? It's not fucking filmmaking, it's an action figure assembly line. I blame the MCU for creating a foundation which I feel is sucking the soul out of the genre, not blaming them for DC's awful missteps.

There. Are you satisfied with that explanation?

If LOGAN is as good as reviews say it is, it will stand as the antithesis of the MCU, and an example of creative license given to those who want to make a film that can stand on its own two feet, not as part of a large, all encompassing canvas where everything needs to be bought into, hook, line, and sinker.

 

[crazy monkey]

Please tell me this is sarcasm, because some of you are taking these blockbuster films designed to sell toys to kids way too seriously.

I remember why I don't go in these threads anymore - they turn grown adults into schoolyard children.

They're fucking comic book films. You'll all be okay.

Exactly how i feel.

 

[Aaron]

Let's be real here, Spider-Man is probably going to be the most formulaic movie the MCU has ever produced. Of all things, why give that one a pass?

Have you seen the director or cast attached to Black Panther?

Spider-man actually fits the formula though, and Keaton as the villain seems to have actual balls. So while it'll be noted and committeed to death like the others, it should be okay save for the tacked on Iron Man shit.

With Black Panther there's so much potential for them to do it right I'm expecting something that started out as a fine film, but got dragged down as the MCU required bullshit was tacked onto it. So while the cast and director have been great, that doesn't give it freedom from the MCU.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

This thread continues to provide the goods. Do tell me more about myself, please and thank you. I'll be sure to correct you on what my major and minor studies were.

Hardcore, sensitive MCU fanboys are the worst.

I think I'll stay away from these threads from now on. It's a shame about the state of movie fandom as a result of this shit. Can't have a discussion on objective things without someone taking it as a personal affront to their own enjoyment of said films. That is not what I'm trying to say.

"Objective" things?

Oh you're one of those types.

Sorry, your opinion on the MCU is just as subjective as mine. Remove thyself from thoust pedestal, m'lord.

 

[AndersK]

I can't repeat myself enough for you, can I? Here we go, one last time:

DC is rushing to the same table that Marvel has already set and is feasting at. It's a trend, you see. DC only has themselves to blame for stumbling and making horrible shit like Suicide Squad. They're fucking their own movies up. But it's this "universification" of movie branding that the MCU started .

If LOGAN is as good as reviews say it is, it will stand as the antithesis of the MCU, and an example of creative license given to those who want to make a film that can stand on its own two feet, not as part of a large, all encompassing canvas where everything needs to be bought into, hook, line, and sinker.

Metacritic has Logan at 73. So I doubt it's the antithesis to anything when I comes to quality. It's a good movie, apparently. Not the GOAT. Civil War sits at 75, and I recall you rating it 4/5, so how bad can it all be? But then again you seem very invested in these debates, so I guess hyperbole is to be expected.

 

[SolidChamp]

Ha. Okay. I'm out for real this time.

It's all just a bit pathetic now.

 

[AndersK]

Ha. Okay. I'm out for real this time.

It's all just a bit pathetic now.

I mean, yes. You often throw a tantrum about people not getting your opinions are objective facts, then you leave, dramatically. Then you repeat. I'm glad you see it too.
Obviously Replicant did not foster a conductive debating environment, which sucks too.

 

[Boombloxer]

I can't repeat myself enough for you, can I? Here we go, one last time:

DC is rushing to the same table that Marvel has already set and is feasting at. It's a trend, you see. DC only has themselves to blame for stumbling and making horrible shit like Suicide Squad. They're fucking their own movies up. But it's this "universification" of movie branding that the MCU started that has companies eyeing this as a business model; how do we mass market the movies we have planned 5-10 years down the road? It's not fucking filmmaking, it's an action figure assembly line. I blame the MCU for creating a foundation which I feel is sucking the soul out of the genre, not blaming them for DC's awful missteps.

There. Are you satisfied with that explanation?

If LOGAN is as good as reviews say it is, it will stand as the antithesis of the MCU, and an example of creative license given to those who want to make a film that can stand on its own two feet, not as part of a large, all encompassing canvas where everything needs to be bought into, hook, line, and sinker.

Theres a post on the page by Bobby Roberts that refutes your point about creative license. Logan won't stand as an antithesis to anything because most of the MCU films aren't the same shit and are enjoyable to fantastic. Logan is standing on Xmen films and The Wolverine as building blocks.

More importantly, welcome to the world of franchise filmmaking. The object of any franchise film is to lay groundwork for follow-up films. Marvel figuring out a way to translate their comic crossovers into a film universe is a natural extension with a tighter baseline of quality. Every franchise does the same technique of sequel building, so Im not sure why youre singling out Marvel.

And what soul is being sucked out? I've seen Dredd, Deadpool, Dr.Strange, The Winter Soldier, The Dark Knight, etc all good to great, not one of these is like the others. I've also seen Sin City 2, BvS, Green Lantern, FF and Ghost Rider; which alternate from blowing donkey balls to actual headaches post-viewing. Point being, bad films are made in every genre, it's a part of film. Most of your posts just come off as dislike of Marvel--and thats fine really, but there's not really a deeper point you're expressing.

 

[old manatee]

Alvarez would be awesome. I thought Evil Dead and Don't Breathe were really good, but not so good that it would bother me to see him get sucked into the DCEU thresher.

 

[CaviarMeths]

I can't repeat myself enough for you, can I? Here we go, one last time:

DC is rushing to the same table that Marvel has already set and is feasting at. It's a trend, you see. DC only has themselves to blame for stumbling and making horrible shit like Suicide Squad. They're fucking their own movies up. But it's this "universification" of movie branding that the MCU started that has companies eyeing this as a business model; how do we mass market the movies we have planned 5-10 years down the road? It's not fucking filmmaking, it's an action figure assembly line. I blame the MCU for creating a foundation which I feel is sucking the soul out of the genre, not blaming them for DC's awful missteps.

There. Are you satisfied with that explanation.

Wut. This was the first time I responded to you in this thread. Maybe in any thread. I don't know. Have we had this discussion before? I don't recall.

I dunno what else there is to be said I guess though. Sorry that comic book films too closely resembles comic books for you and that something you don't like is successful enough to be imitatable. Must be rough.

If LOGAN is as good as reviews say it is, it will stand as the antithesis of the MCU, and an example of creative license given to those who want to make a film that can stand on its own two feet, not as part of a large, all encompassing canvas where everything needs to be bought into, hook, line, and sinker.

Sure, I'm hyped as hell for Logan too, but I'm not going to buy the narrative that James Mangold was given more creative license than James Gunn. Both made exactly the movie they wanted to make with little to no interference from the studio.

 

[Can Crusher]

They are trying to convince house names to do the garbage they want. Won't work.

 

[Messofanego]

This seems wholly unnecessary.

They should give the franchise to Sam Mendes.

Leave Sam Mendes alone! I'd prefer him to be making non-franchise films since Bond is done.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

They should give the franchise to Sam Mendes.

No thanks, skyfall and spectre were terrible

 

[Tace]

You know what no one would expect? Batman directed by Bill Watterson

I'd go see it

 

[ArtHands]

Wow, there's really no need for meltdowns or blaming on Marvel just because DCCU is a major clusterfuck now.

 

[The Kree]

Wow, there's really no need for meltdowns or blaming on Marvel just because DCCU is a major clusterfuck now.