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[LionPride]

People have been wondering, with black movies gaining more recognition at award shows, what's next? Another movement to get more representation? Well...yes kinda. Not only do more black forms of media need representation, but also Hispanic/Latino and also Asian and Brown. Minoritiy representation at the Oscars needs to he better. Some meh ass movies get nominated and win Best picture when there are better options with Brown, Hispanic, or Asian movies. Oscars so White isn't over because we won 5 awards that night. This isn't over seeing as it's still a fact that there is a lack of representation of black people as well as other minorities in Hollywood. We need to see more Brown, Hispanic/Latino, and Asian actors, actresses, and movies be nominated outside of Documentaries and Best Foreign picture.

Edit: And of course woman need better representation, it's absurd how much the industry disregards them.

 

[Makonero]

I was reading on twitter about the lack of latina/latino representation in tv/movies. It is kinda crazy that one of the largest minorities is also one of the least represented.

 

[Meowster]

Asian cinema should be recognized more.

 

[Nostremitus]

White House staff?

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

I'd like to see Indian actors not always play a nerd/techie/doctor/taxi driver/beta male

 

[Sunster]

With minorities closing in on being 50% of the population damn right it's not over. We need more diverse representation. A lot more.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Judging from the ratings, #oscarssowhat.

 

[Platy]

Lots of things next .... people think the only thing outside of white is black, there are still categories without a single women ever being even NOMINATED and prejudices with everything else.

And that is of course the oscars... Wynona Rider steals something and she was basicaly delisted for years. Johnny depp beat up his wife and he got a franchise deal

 

[Corpsepyre]

Waiting for Pakistanis to be represented properly. Some day.

 

[daviyoung]

Some meh ass movies get nominated and win Best picture when there are better options with Brown, Hispanic, or Asian movies. Oscars so White isn't over because we won 5 awards that night.

this is what it boils down to, what does the Oscars actually represent? are they about the quality of films released that year or about preserving a tradition?

 

[Messofanego]

I'd like to see Indian actors not always play a nerd/techie/doctor/taxi driver/beta male

Something like Master Of None, but for a big movie.

 

[LionPride]

Lots of things next .... people think the only thing outside of white is black, there are still categories without a single women ever being even NOMINATED and prejudices with everything else.

And that is of course the oscars... Wynona Rider steals something and she was basicaly delisted for years. Johnny depp beat up his wife and he got a franchise deal

Bruh don't even get me started on that category. Plenty of technical awards where woman ain't nominated. I could go on about black women but whew I got limited time rn

 

[Messofanego]

Waiting for Pakistanis to be represented properly. Some day.

Yes, more actors like Riz Ahmed.

 

[LionPride]

Yes, more actors like Riz Ahmed.

Riz Ahmed is my boy! I work with a woman who gets so excited anytime he's brought up. I hope he gets a lot more work. I completely forgot he was in Nightcrawler till I looked him up because of Rogue One. Dude's a good actor.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I was under the impression OscarsSoWhite was about POC and representation in general and not specific.

 

[LionPride]

I was under the impression OscarsSoWhite was about POC and representation in general and not specific.

People assumed it was only about black people since a black woman started it. Even though many times she stated it was about every Person of Color...

 

[Platy]

Yes, more actors like Riz Ahmed.

Useless trivia : he was tumblr famous before being hollywood famous !

http://dazamiganerd.tumblr.com/post/155562589008/madlori-soyeahso-busyasabree

 

[LewieP]

More women directors, which needs a two prong solution. Better recognition of women who are already making great films, and greater industry support for women to continue to do so.

Edit: only four women have ever been nominated for best Director since 1929.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Greater black representation is just the start. You still have a substantial lack of latino/hispanic representation outside of the typical stereotypes. Not to mention the incredible lack of Asian American, Indian, Native American, and Middle Eastern representation. All of these are stereotyped to extremes too.

Outside of that you have the general lack of women representation not only on the acting side but on the production side of movies and television too. There's no excuse for there being so few female directors in the entertainment business.

This isn't even touching on the LGBT issues media tends to have in their writing and representation too. One could argue homosexual characters are being written and included better but there's still a noticeable lack of bisexual, asexual, transgendered, and other non heterosexual characters on the screen.

All in all, there's a lot of work to be done.

 

[FyreWulff]

You keep fighting to make sure they don't try to think they just have to barely acknowledge and everything is solved

 

[LionPride]

More women directors, which needs a two prong solution. Better recognition of women who are already making great films, and greater industry support for women to continue to do so.

Edit: only four women have ever been nominated for best Director since 1929.

That's stupid, four?

 

[Sunster]

Greater black representation is just the start. You still have a substantial lack of latino/hispanic representation outside of the typical stereotypes. Not to mention the incredible lack of Asian American, Indian, Native American, and Middle Eastern representation. All of these are stereotyped to extremes too.

Outside of that you have the general lack of women representation not only on the acting side but on the production side of movies and television too. There's no excuse for there being so few female directors in the entertainment business.

This isn't even touching on the LGBT issues media tends to have in their writing and representation too. One could argue homosexual characters are being written and included better but there's still a noticeable lack of bisexual, asexual, transgendered, and other non heterosexual characters on the screen.

All in all, there's a lot of work to be done.

And stop killing off lesbian characters whenever they get a girlfriend, Hollywood. Just let them live.

 

[Messofanego]

Riz Ahmed is my boy! I work with a woman who gets so excited anytime he's brought up. I hope he gets a lot more work. I completely forgot he was in Nightcrawler till I looked him up because of Rogue One. Dude's a good actor.

Anyone who likes Riz Ahmed should check him out in a British miniseries called Britz.

He plays a MI5 agent whose sister starts becoming radicalised. It's intense and heartbreaking.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Something like Master Of None, but for a big movie.

The guy on the left looks like Charlie Day

 

[Madness]

I was reading on twitter about the lack of latina/latino representation in tv/movies. It is kinda crazy that one of the largest minorities is also one of the least represented.

Think about how much hispanic people are part of the US population and think about how much they are part of any representation. Sports, news, media, etc. Going forward, the fastest growing groups are Asians/East Indians and Hispanics. And yet barely represented in anything.

 

[Messofanego]

The guy on the left looks like Charlie Day

Haha

That's Ravi Patel, he was part of a comedic documentary called Meet The Patels.

 

[Makonero]

Think about how much hispanic people are part of the US population and think about how much they are part of any representation. Sports, news, media, etc. Going forward, the fastest growing groups are Asians/East Indians and Hispanics. And yet barely represented in anything.

Yeah, it's insane. A lot of the hispanic actors I can think of are older too, like Jennifer Lopez or Antonio Banderas.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Haha

That's Ravi Patel, he was part of a comedic documentary called Meet The Patels.

Oh cool, I'll check it out!

 

[Ravensmash]

Yes to Riz Ahmed.

Shameful how little talked about The Night Of is.

I don't even like TV series' normally and I ploughed through that.

 

[LewieP]

That's stupid, four?

Yep. More men were nominated for best director this year than women have ever been nominated.

 

[LionPride]

Yep. More men were nominated for best director this year than women have ever been nominated.

Yikes

 

[tearsintherain]

I'd be curious what the Oscars 2018 noms are gonna look like minority wise, the movies nominated and winning in 2017 were all in production years before, its not like in March 2016 they greenlit Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Fences, etc. I have a feeling this years oscar movies are gonna return to being pretty white.

 

[LionPride]

I'd be curious what the Oscars 2018 noms are gonna look like minority wise, the movies nominated and winning in 2017 were all in production years before, its not like in March 2016 they greenlit Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Fences, etc. I have a feeling this years oscar movies are gonna return to being pretty white.

Looking at the list of movies coming out this year...not a whole lotta color

 

[Sarcastic Poster]

The focus should be on trying to improve diversity in the executive areas first. Have minorities and women in positions of power and naturally more diverse stories will be told.

 

[jason10mm]

There is a lot (well, some) Hispanic representation in Hollywood but the actors at least often change their name to obscure their origin. Same with polish, german, jewish, etc nationalities/ethnicities. Hispanic media also has an entire audience outside of traditional Hollywood. Be interesting so see how much the Chinese market drives Asian representation.

 

[Kinyou]

I'd be curious what the Oscars 2018 noms are gonna look like minority wise, the movies nominated and winning in 2017 were all in production years before, its not like in March 2016 they greenlit Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Fences, etc. I have a feeling this years oscar movies are gonna return to being pretty white.

Yeah
The oscars are really more of a reflection of the industries' problems than the problem itself.

Like it sucks that all nominated directors were men, but I also can't really think of a female director that was snubbed this year.

 

[Trojita]

I made this post awhile in regards to representation at the Oscars.

That number is actually really good.

There's 20 actor/actress spots. 6 out of 20 is 30%. That's an amazing statistical outlier based on on the fact that black Americans only make up 12.6% of the population.

What needs to be done is to have more black people be in roles that make them nominatable for best actor/actress, roles where they aren't playing stereotypical oscar bait role, and a lot more diversity on the side of the directors seat, editing, cinematography, sound, visual design.

I hope there is more diversity for other minorities as well.

The offscreen representation is what is most lacking right now.

This year was very good with having black actors and actresses nominated.

I also find this statement puzzling

Some meh ass movies get nominated and win Best picture when there are better options with Brown, Hispanic, or Asian movies

First let's disregard calling a movie Brown, Hispanic, or Asian, which is kind of troubling. So the only other movies you are classing by skin color that are omitted is White. What's your assertation that these "White" movies are meh? What's your basis for saying they won Best picture when they weren't the best option? Really great movies are snubbed all the time.

 

[kswiston]

That's stupid, four?

Directing is probably one of the more skewed white male jobs in Hollywood.

There have only been four black directors nominated for best director as well. Zero have won, even though Steve McQueen and Barry Jenkins were both at the helm of Best Picture winners.

Golden Age Spike Lee netted zero nominations.

 

[LionPride]

I made this post awhile in regards to representation at the Oscars.



The offscreen representation is what is most lacking right now.

This year was very good with having black actors and actresses nominated.

I also find this statement puzzling



First let's disregard calling a movie Brown, Hispanic, or Asian, which is kind of troubling. So the only other movies you are classing by skin color that are omitted is White. What's your assertation that these "White" movies are meh? What's your basis for saying they won Best picture when they weren't the best option?

Shakespeare in Love, Crash, Chicago, The Hurt Locker, The King's Speech, The Artist, Argo. Bad to alright movies that have won Best picture. Bad to alright movies done by other races aren't gonna get nominated for Best Picture typically. Every movie I named, certainly not the best option or third best.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

We should have an #OscarsSoRemoveCrashFromBestPicturesListPlease

 

[Laieon]

Asian cinema should be recognized more.

As someone who considers The Wailing the best movie of 2016, I couldn't agree any more if I tried.

 

[kswiston]

As someone who considers The Wailing the best movie of 2016, I couldn't agree any more if I tried.

Asian cinema gets a ton of recognition in their home markets, both in terms of awards and box office. I think that most countries prefer their domestic media if they have a healthy industry. I can't really fault Hollywood/The Anglosphere for doing the same.

That doesn't excuse them for a lack of diversity in American/English language films though.

 

[Trojita]

Shakespeare in Love, Crash, Chicago, The Hurt Locker, The King's Speech, The Artist, Argo. Bad to alright movies that have won Best picture. Bad to alright movies done by other races aren't gonna get nominated for Best Picture typically. Every movie I named, certainly not the best option or third best.

Well I'm not going to disagree that a lot of those movies didn't deserve it, a lot of people including a lot of white people (especially on this board) don't think those movies deserve it either. But it isn't always going to be a case that the movie that probably deserved to win was a movie with the main cast being black.

A lot of talented Asian and Hispanic entertainers unfortunately leave to do better roles in Asia or Latin America.

About Hispanic representation, there is still somewhat of a problem borrowed from Latin American actor representation. If you've noticed a lot of their famous actors are very white.

 

[shintoki]

People assumed it was only about black people since a black woman started it. Even though many times she stated it was about every Person of Color...

Well, the only person up for one of the major awards not Black or White nominated was Dev Patel. The year before, we have Inarritu. So even if she says it, representation did not change at all for anyone else. So she still better be saying it then.

If we're talking about the biggest win, I feel like it comes in the form of A24 and Amazon pictures. Why? A24 is a new studio that definitely takes risks and hopefully will lead to more pictures like Moonlight with completely minority casting. Hopefully, they'll continue to expand. With Amazon winning some for Manchester. Again, removing some of that stigma, where hopefully they can bring pictures like The Handmaiden over more often too and expand in theater count. The more the new and upcoming studios win, I think that has a greater chance of breaking the status quo more than anything else.


For next year though, we could be back to the same though. Last year was a weak year in comparison to this year, which turned out to be an exceptionally strong year. Most of the nominations came from two extremely strong entries, while last year, the best entry was tanked by being on Netflix Day 1.

 

[LionPride]

So many people don't even known that someone like Oscar Issac isn't white and that alone is a problem.

Well, the only person up for one of the major awards not Black or White nominated was Dev Patel. The year before, we have Inarritu. So even if she says it, representation did not change at all for anyone else. So she still better be saying it then.

And she has been. Take your problem up with the people who don't realize that by nominating three black actresses for supporting actress and having Moonlight win doesn't solve all the problems.

 

[BruceCLea]

Oscars so Oscar.

It should be all about the film. I know it sounds silly but we should all just appreciate the art for what it is and not look for color.

But that's a long fucking time away.

In the meantime I love the fact that we keep calling out racial injustices within Hollywood. I think that because #oscarssowhite happened more people became open to discovering black and more diverse talent.

If we go through an #oscasrso___ every year I'm all for it, because it points a spotlight on unappreciated talent. Even it's born of controversy it's good because it forces people to look at the world differently.

It's great that the Academy got called out for being too white last year. I agree. But minorities shouldn't be awarded by some guilt trip or conciliatory action.

The truth is Hollywood is thought of this great liberal bastion but the people that run it and finance all the movies are rich, white, conservative fucks.

It takes the people to show they care by voting with their wallets through sales.

 

[HardRojo]

Yes, more actors like Riz Ahmed.

He was that dude in Nightcrawler? Damn, he's got a fan right here!

 

[LionPride]

Oscars so Oscar.

It should be all about the film. I know it sounds silly but we should all just appreciate the art for what it is and not look for color.

But that's a long fucking time away.

In the meantime I love the fact that we keep calling out racial injustices within Hollywood. I think that because #oscarssowhite happened more people became open to discovering black and more diverse talent.

If we go through an #oscasrso___ every year I'm all for it, because it points a spotlight on unappreciated talent. Even it's born of controversy it's good because it forces people to look at the world differently.

It's great that the Academy got called out for being too white last year. I agree. But minorities shouldn't be awarded by some guilt trip or conciliatory action.

The truth is Hollywood is thought of this great liberal bastion but the people that run it and finance all the movies are rich, white, conservative fucks.

It takes the people to show they care by voting with their wallets through sales.

Most of the movies that are nominated or win Oscars ain't exactly breaking the box office.

I think this year a bunch of people will look and say "See we gave them something so they should be happy now right?" But that's the exact opposite. We need to keep pushing and pushing

 

[cdyhybrid]

#OscarsSoWhite ain't over.

If you think one year of representation is going to magically fix the problems in the industry you're sadly mistaken.

 

[airmangataosenai]

I was under the impression OscarsSoWhite was about POC and representation in general and not specific.

Should've been but it never was. It was ridiculous how people praised this year as more diverse. In general, prominent black actors have as little interest in true diversity as their white counterparts, or maybe even less.