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[Mpl90]

Depends, you including Wii U?
Cause then it's closer to 1.7mm. But that's only if you combine

That should mean approximately 300k in March for Zelda (Switch+Wii U) if that number includes digital (in March, Zelda sold about 1,385,000 copies retail + digital).

John, two questions if you can answer

1) Is Switch's top 5 all above 50,000?
2) What were LCU's shares between the different versions?

 

[Nightengale]

Horizon ending up much more popular in Europe than in the US for some reason.

I haven't cross-checked to be sure, but I recall that this is more of a situation where Zelda is much more popular in US vs Europe.

 

[Mpl90]

I brought this up in the March thread but no one responded.

Proobably because it's a retailer exclusive. The same happened back when Xenoblade Chronicles was released in US, only available at GameStop.

 

[John Harker]

That should mean approximately 300k in March for Zelda (Switch+Wii U) if that number includes digital (in March, Zelda sold about 1,385,000 copies retail + digital).

John, two questions if you can answer

1) Is Switch's top 5 all above 50,000?
2) What were LCU's shares between the different versions?

Top 4, and Switch highest

 

[Mpl90]

Top 4, and Switch highest

Thanks as always John.

 

[Welfare]

Proobably because it's a retailer exclusive. The same happened back when Xenoblade Chronicles was released in US, only available at GameStop.

I thought Amazon sold it too but after checking it looks to be resellers. Didn't know it was GameStop exclusive.

 

[SporeCrawler]

How the fuck are you people not noticing BLACK OPS 2 is in the Top fucking 10!

Holy shit

Lol why? The game even has a sequel..

 

[OléGunner]

Incredible performance from P5, I'm genuinely shocked it came in 2nd.
I really think P4G was key to bringing the series to newcomers like myself!

Also, impressive performance from MLB. Quietly plugging away there.

 

[lwilliams3]

Top 4, and Switch highest

That's good. If I recall correctly, did you tell us that third party ports for the Wii U during its launch period generally performed terribly, and that some sales were even in the 4 digits?

 

[Nirolak]

Expected top 3, much lower shipment than expected for Switch in April.
Horizon ending up much more popular in Europe than in the US for some reason.

I'm expecting MK8D, Injustice 2, Minecraft, GTA to be top of the charts during May, can't think of any other major release that month - so if Zelda maintains high attach rate it might also make the top 5.

Microsoft sharing digital numbers for Minecraft as it releases on the Switch is going to give us a much better idea about the size of digital customers on the Switch. It's 20 for April with digital - so if it really sees a big jump it will be all down to the Switch port.

MK8D is guaranteed to reach a million in the US in it's second month - it's just a matter of whether Injustice will be able to beat it. Personally I think in the end MK8D will take May as well unless there is a shortage of new Switch owners.

Mortal Kombat X opened well over a million in its debut month, so unless Injustice 2 completely tanks in comparison, it will trivially take the month.

 

[Ushay]

Mass Effect is still selling pretty well, especially on the Xbox chart. Maybe they shelved the franchise prematurely. Anyone know if they have canned any plans for DLC on it too?

 

[Fast Forward]

NES Classic #2 system


Nintendo is run by idiots, they should have those things in every Walmart checkout aisle

Yep.

NES Classic could have easily sold 10+ million in lifetime sales.

Leaving money on the table.

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

I shed a tear for persona.

WE IN HERE.

 

[HolyCheck]

Yep.

NES Classic could have easily sold 10+ million in lifetime sales.

Leaving money on the table.

I always just assumed they freed up production line place for the switch...

 

[Achtung Englander]

I just checked and does anybody find it weird that ME:A charted higher than Horizon on both months but Horizon still sold more than it overall? When Sony/MS includes digital sales, is it only for the month or do they retroactively add to the previous months?

March
Year To Date (all 2017 months combined):
5. Mass Effect: Andromeda (Electronic Arts)
7. Horizon: Zero Dawn (Sony)

April
Best selling games of 2017 through April:
4. Horizon Zero Dawn
5. Mass Effect: Andromeda

March 2017:
3. Mass Effect: Andromeda ** (Electronic Arts)
4. Horizon: Zero Dawn * (Sony)

April 2017:
7. Mass Effect: Andromeda**
12. Horizon Zero Dawn

Sony (and Microsoft) digital numbers went live this month (April). We do not retroactively correct past rankings because at the time of publication those rankings reflect the data that NPD had. To answer your question about Mass Effect and Horizon Zero Dawn, if Sony digital numbers for March were included in the count, than Horizon would have outsold Mass Effect.

That is the way the cookie crumbles.

 

[katsubento]

Go Persona go!!

 

[Rymuth]

Lovely result for Persona. Japanese games don't matter, etc.

NES @ 2 because of the discontinuation. I'm dreading the stampede for the SNES Classic, what have you unleashed Ninty?

 

[Rurunaki]

Damn Persona 5.. didn't see that coming.. so, japan is back? That top 3.. oh my.. where my jrpgs at Nintendo?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

We need Persona 5 sales numbers. Has to be up there as one of the best, if not the best, JRPG openings bar FF/KH

 

[AniHawk]

We need Persona 5 sales numbers. Has to be up there as one of the best, if not the best, JRPG openings bar FF/KH

pokemon probably had a slightly better opening.

 

[Gurish]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

 

[DecoReturns]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

They mentioned a few weeks back that it had sold over 2.8 million copies.

Probably reached 4 million by now. I would say it's a big success. It's still selling and I think (hope) they'll bundle it later.

 

[Bgamer90]

Good debuts for recently released exclusives, blatant/obvious example that shows that people care about backwards compatibility and that Microsoft is smart in continuing to support and push it in this more digital age -- overall one of the most interesting and diverse NPD results in a long time.

 

[miller.skippins]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

Not sure if serious...especially when compared to zelda...when it's sold more than the console itself....and it's zelda, a prestigious IP with alot of legacy and tons of hype after the reviews and also arrive at the midst of a new console launch. To put it in perspective, almost every early PS4 launch title was a million seller (yes, including Knack and Killzone shadow Fall) and the reason is due to limited available titles at launch thus almost any titles will sell well....let alone a superhyped zelda.

i don't really get what you meant by zero legs.

also comparing it to blops2 is weird. blops2 is the best selling cod of all time, it itself is 'only' the 2nd best selling console franchise (below GTA).......blops2 even outsold infinite warfare!

I

 

[asariN7]

Happy for Atlus.

 

[kyser73]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

Have you just read the OP and then come in to post?

April
Best selling games of 2017 through April:
1. Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Wildlands
2. For Honor
3. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
4. Horizon Zero Dawn
5. Mass Effect: Andromeda
6. Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
7. Grand Theft Auto V
8. NBA 2K17
9. Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
10. MLB 17: The Show

4th biggest seller so far in 2017 and the ONLY single-platform title in this top 10.

But yeah, clearly a failure. WTF are you smoking.

 

[DJwest]

I'm so happy for Persona 5, damn. Well deserved.

 

[Frost_Ace]

So weird seeing Persona 5 at number 2. I'm so happy for Atlus.

 

[leeh]

Wow @ Black Ops 2. That's based on revenue ain't it and it was also cheap as chips? Hot damn, BC.

I hope this cures the GAF myth that no one uses BC...

 

[aadiboy]

I hope the success of Persona 5 leads Atlus to put more SMT games on PS4. Last gen the only SMT games on PS3 were the P4A games and Catherine.

 

[cheesekao]

Sony (and Microsoft) digital numbers went live this month (April). We do not retroactively correct past rankings because at the time of publication those rankings reflect the data that NPD had. To answer your question about Mass Effect and Horizon Zero Dawn, if Sony digital numbers for March were included in the count, than Horizon would have outsold Mass Effect.

That is the way the cookie crumbles.

Ok so let me get this straight. You did not change the March rankings BUT the March digital numbers for Horizon is included in the "Best Sellers of the Year" list, right?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

It's a new SP IP that is on one system that must have sold near 1.4 million by now in USA.
I would say that is pretty good.
Zelda is a IP that has been around for 30 years and still strong to this day .

 

[TrutaS]

Extremely happy for Persona. Looking forward to seeing this type of game grow and grow.

 

[Augemitbutter]

i'm here for you, persona.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Yep.

NES Classic could have easily sold 10+ million in lifetime sales.

Leaving money on the table.

The only way it'll do that is if they relinquish manufacturing and distribution to a third party, and they don't want to do that ever.

Also it'd probably undermine their virtual console catalogue if these were still readily available.

 

[Kysen]

The only way it'll do that is if they relinquish manufacturing and distribution to a third party, and they don't want to do that ever.

Also it'd probably undermine their virtual console catalogue if these were still readily available.

I still cant get over how awesome your avatar is. Damn Kimishima looks smug.

 

[NSESN]

We need Persona 5 sales numbers. Has to be up there as one of the best, if not the best, JRPG openings bar FF/KH

Pokemon did better even if you separate the versions. I think FE did too if you count SRPGs.

 

[Renekton]

Dat Black Ops 2. Serves me right for disrespecting backward compatibility 😐

Is it safe to say that Xbox somewhat rescued Mass Effect​ because the platform didn't have HZD and BOTW?

 

[Styles]

I don't know if I expected too much but I feel like H:ZD didn't perform too well, it's on the leading platform, an open world action RPG, best visuals in gaming, it was supposed to do much better but Zelda is easily selling more on a new platform with barely any users, it has already disappeared from the top 10, even blops 2 sold more this month for crying out loud! it got zero legs.

I wouldn't call it a failure but it is disappointing commercially.

Yeah, it's slightly disappointing when you consider in the size of the install base on the PS4.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

pokemon probably had a slightly better opening.

From what I recall, the launch of Sun and Moon had around ~2.7 million combined on the NPD with no digital. So not close.

 

[Toadthemushroom]

That's good. If I recall correctly, did you tell us that third party ports for the Wii U during its launch period generally performed terribly, and that some sales were even in the 4 digits?

I'd be interested in the sales split or ranking for Puyo Puyo Tetris. In the UK 76% of copies sold were on Switch which surprised me, as the game costs nearly double the price of the PS4 version, and it launched alongside Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. There was also no digital release on PS4, which I thought would drive retail sales on that format.

 

[MrCookiepants]

Horizon's doing just fine. Consider that only 1 PS4 exclusive has crossed 2 million in America. Horizon will join it soon.

Kinda puts into perspective why Xbox has been able hold onto so much marketshare though. Nearly 4 years since launch and only 1 big exclusive for Sony. Their first party this gen has been atrocious, really.

 

[NSESN]

HZD sales aren't disappointing. It is just selling less in the US than in Europe. It is like saying that Zelda sales are disappointing in Japan because it has a lower attach rate despite outselling SS already.

 

[cheesekao]

Yeah, it's slightly disappointing when you consider in the size of the install base on the PS4.

Size isn't the end all, be all of sales. Zelda continuously sold because of the popularity of the Switch and it's pretty much being the only console seller until Mario arrived.

Horizon's doing just fine. Consider that only 1 PS4 exclusive has crossed 2 million in America. Horizon will join it soon.

Kinda puts into perspective why Xbox has been able hold onto so much marketshare though. Nearly 4 years since launch and only 1 big exclusive for Sony. Their first party this gen has been atrocious, really.

What is your definition of "big" pray tell?

 

[Darksol]

God damn Persona, good job!

 

[Achtung Englander]

Ok so let me get this straight. You did not change the March rankings BUT the March digital numbers for Horizon is included in the "Best Sellers of the Year" list, right?

Yes. The charts you see for YTD and 12 months rolling reflect latest data. When more publishers join digital sharing with us the greater the accuracy the lists will get. We do not retroactive correct charts.

 

[ChronotriggerJM]

Great numbers! So happy for Persona!

 

[MrCookiepants]

What is your definition of "big" pray tell?

The 2 million club, population: Uncharted 4.

I'm just saying. The console has been out for a long time and Sony's biggest hitters from last gen (Santa Monica, Media Molecule, Polyphony) still haven't put out a damn game.

It's tragic. They let Microsoft catch up.

 

[miller.skippins]

Kinda puts into perspective why Xbox has been able hold onto so much marketshare though. Nearly 4 years since launch and only 1 big exclusive for Sony. Their first party this gen has been atrocious, really.

LMAO...what are you smoking? If Sony's 1st party for this gen is bad, then the rest of probaby in the gutter? Unless that's bait?

 

[miller.skippins]

The 2 million club, population: Uncharted 4.

I'm just saying. The console has been out for a long time and Sony's biggest hitters from last gen (Santa Monica, Media Molecule, Polyphony) still haven't put out a damn game.

It's tragic. They let Microsoft catch up.

what other MS IP other than the Gears, Halo, Forza (in which both Gears & Halo are in decline) are in the 2 million club this gen? Do tell...