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The endgame for Kim should be her sabotaging her own career, hitting rock bottom and getting addicted to blue meth, Jimmy's redemption arc in the future can be getting Kim into rehab.

 

[Human Trashcan]

The bolded wouldn't have happened if Chuck would have just let Kim have Mersa Verde.

It's not like he stole anything from her. He just did his job. How does that excuse Jimmy breaking into his house, altering the files, and taking advantage of his brother's mental illness? The way you phrase it makes it sound like it was a natural phenomenon or something. "Wouldn't have happened." Jimmy chose to do those things. People jump through so many hoops to excuse him and I don't get it.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Odenkirk really got me at first which like some of you say i think it was a legit moment for him but then his cogs starting turning in his head to keep fucking Chuck some more

 

[SDCowboy]

I'm changing my prediction on what happens to Kim. I think she'll eventually break up Jimmy (both as a couple and business partners) and turn on him because she can't handle what they did to Chuck, and Jimmy will one way or another have to do away with her.

That or she'll go down the same path as Jimmy and something will happen to her that way.

It's complicated because there seems to be two different Kims. There is the one who feels horrible about what they did to Chuck, and then there's the Kim who seems to get off or get a rush whenever she and Jimmy go over possible scams on people when they're on their dinner dates.

 

[_Nemo]

The endgame for Kim should be her sabotaging her own career, hitting rock bottom and getting addicted to blue meth, Jimmy's redemption arc in the future can be getting Kim into rehab.

lel

 

[tmdorsey]

It's not like he stole anything from her. He just did his job. How does that excuse Jimmy breaking into his house, altering the files, and taking advantage of his brother's mental illness? The way you phrase it makes it sound like it was a natural phenomenon or something. "Wouldn't have happened." Jimmy chose to do those things. People jump through so many hoops to excuse him and I don't get it.

I'm not excusing his actions, but don't act like Chuck's actions aren't playing a part into this transformation.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

The bolded wouldn't have happened if Chuck would have just let Kim have Mersa Verde.

If she hadn't quit the firm, she wouldn't have lost them. If Jimmy hadn't released that tape, then she wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If he hadn't gotten her in trouble, then she wouldn't have gotten the client in the first place. Chuck didn't force Howard to blackball her, Howard was genuinely upset, over her trusting Jimmy more than the firm, even if that wasn't entirely what happened, it was the conclusion he drew from his perspective. This was Jimmies fault through and through.

It's circular logic, but ultimately, it's a business, and Chuck was right about that too. Kim can't handle that entire company by herself, she's cracking. Is she going to go years on 5 minute sleep batches? For a company that's rapidly expanding? It's not a long term solution that's feasible, which is kind of the point to her scenes, she's barely holding it together. Again, Chuck was 100% right, even if he's a prick.

I don't think she'll get addicted to anything, but I could see a twist where she tries to kill herself from the pressure, over giving the client back to Howard. Even if that doesn't happen, I'd almost guarantee we're getting a very somber Kim breakdown scene before the season ends, or next season at the most. I could see them dragging it out though, seeing her reaction to Saul Goodman becoming real next season.

 

[MrBadger]

I was mad at what a manipulative, vindictive asshole he was, but a part of me was also pretty impressed at Bob Odenkirk's acting. I've been a fan of his since the freaking Ben Stiller show, who knew he had that in him?!?

Anyway, I like that we are seeing the knock-on effects of Jimmy/Kim ruining Chuck's reputation, as gossip spreads about Crazy Chuck. It is not unlike Breaking Bad showing the insidious spread of Walt's corrupting blue meth. I can't wait to see Chuck's revenge. You know it'll be incredible. I bet it'll be aimed at splitting Jimmy and Kim somehow. And I bet it'll work.

I don't think Chuck will try and get revenge. I imagine his last revenge plan blew up so hard in his face that he's too broken to attempt another. Also, the Jimmy that was weak to Chuck's tactics died in the final scene of yesterday's episode.

 

[SDCowboy]

If she hadn't quit the firm, she wouldn't have lost them. If Jimmy hadn't released that tape, then she wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If he hadn't gotten her in trouble, then she wouldn't have gotten the client in the first place. Chuck didn't force Howard to blackball her, Howard was genuinely upset, over her trusting Jimmy more than the firm, even if that wasn't entirely what happened, it was the conclusion he drew from his perspective. This was Jimmies fault through and through.

It's circular logic, but ultimately, it's a business, and Chuck was right about that too. Kim can't handle that entire company by herself, she's cracking. Is she going to go years on 5 minute sleep batches? For a company that's rapidly expanding? It's not a long term solution that's feasible, which is kind of the point to her scenes, she's barely holding it together. Again, Chuck was 100% right, even if he's a prick.

I don't think she'll get addicted to anything, but I could see a twist where she tries to kill herself from the pressure, over giving the client back to Howard. Even if that doesn't happen, I'd almost guarantee we're getting a very somber Kim breakdown scene before the season ends, or next season at the most. I could see them dragging it out though, seeing her reaction to Saul Goodman becoming real next season.

I still think there's a higher chance she quits law and joins Jimmy on the scamming stuff. She seems to be getting burnt out of law work, but seems to get off on her and Jimmy doing their scam plans when they go out on dates. I think something will ultimately happen to her from getting into that.

I just don't see her trying to kill herself.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

I don't think Chuck will try and get revenge. I imagine his last revenge plan blew up so hard in his face that he's too broken to attempt another. Also, the Jimmy that was weak to Chuck's tactics died in the final scene of yesterday's episode.

Maybe so. On the other hand, Jimmy might not be prepared for Chuck using Slipping-Jimmy tactics against him, which is what I suspect is coming.

 

[Veelk]

It's not like he stole anything from her. He just did his job. How does that excuse Jimmy breaking into his house, altering the files, and taking advantage of his brother's mental illness? The way you phrase it makes it sound like it was a natural phenomenon or something. "Wouldn't have happened." Jimmy chose to do those things. People jump through so many hoops to excuse him and I don't get it.

Yup. Kim wasn't entitled to Mesa Verde. You can argue that Chuck did it to spite his brother, but in the end, all he did was present the best argument he had for why HHM was the better representative for Mesa Verde, and the CEO ended up agreeing. That's just how their business works. The law firms persuade, and the clients choose.

And Mesa Verde, I feel it has to be repeated, isn't merely a resource for lawyers to fight over. Jimmy defrauded innocent people so that Kim could get the get them as a source of income. It's on this act alone, if nothing else, that Jimmy's act isn't defensible, since they did nothing to anyone and just wanted to be represented by the best law firm. There's no argument you could make that Jimmy had a right to screw them over.

 

[tmdorsey]

If she hadn't quit the firm, she wouldn't have lost them. If Jimmy hadn't released that tape, then she wouldn't have gotten in trouble. If he hadn't gotten her in trouble, then she wouldn't have gotten the client in the first place. Chuck didn't force Howard to blackball her, Howard was genuinely upset, over her trusting Jimmy more than the firm, even if that wasn't entirely what happened, it was the conclusion he drew from his perspective. This was Jimmies fault through and through.

It's circular logic, but ultimately, it's a business, and Chuck was right about that too. Kim can't handle that entire company by herself, she's cracking. Is she going to go years on 5 minute sleep batches? For a company that's rapidly expanding? It's not a long term solution that's feasible, which is kind of the point to her scenes, she's barely holding it together. Again, Chuck was 100% right, even if he's a prick.

I don't think she'll get addicted to anything, but I could see a twist where she tries to kill herself from the pressure, over giving the client back to Howard. Even if that doesn't happen, I'd almost guarantee we're getting a very somber Kim breakdown scene before the season ends, or next season at the most. I could see them dragging it out though, seeing her reaction to Saul Goodman becoming real next season.

I don't remember all the specifics on what happened with Mesa Verde, but it's going to be real hard for me to feel sorry for Chuck even with his illness (which seems to not be as big as an issue when he's on his missions to discredit Jimmy) when he's seemingly doesn't want to give Jimmy any chance at redemption.

 

[Veelk]

I don't remember all the specifics on what happened with Mesa Verde, but it's going to be real hard for me to feel sorry for Chuck even with his illness (which seems to not be as big as an issue when he's on his missions to discredit Jimmy) when he's seemingly doesn't want to give Jimmy any chance at redemption.

I don't think anyone's asking you to feel sorry for Chuck. It's just a general acknowledgement that he accurately assessed the realities of the situation and didn't cross any boundaries in doing so.

 

[tmdorsey]

I don't think anyone's asking you to feel sorry for Chuck. It's just a general acknowledgement that he accurately assessed the realities of the situation and didn't cross any boundaries in doing so.

Oh, no doubt about that. He's been right about pretty much everything, but definitely could have handled things a lot better. Especially considering how much Jimmy took care of him with his illness.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I still think there's a higher chance she quits law and joins Jimmy on the scamming stuff. She seems to be getting burnt out of law work, but seems to get off on her and Jimmy doing their scam plans when they go out on dates. I think something will ultimately happen to her from getting into that.

I just don't see her trying to kill herself.

Probably not, just spit balling something that Vince hasn't tried yet. I imagine a number of her scenes this season don't even relate to a full breakdown, but more so to provide a contrast on how Jimmy and Kim handle stress. You see Kim showering in the gym, and Jimmy at his car. You see her mini-break with Erin, and Jimmies with the probation officer, and with the cute make up girl, and again at the bar, and again with the insurance. Jimmy can't handle stress, which leads to me think we'll get a classic "You have no clue what I'm going through right now!" from Jimmy, and Kim putting him in his place. I just hope they do something more than having her leave leave, unless Jimmy does something truly awful to cause it.

Also, it's criminal that the film crew members aren't named yet. Stop developing characters who don't have names!!!

Vince "My background characters have better development than your main cast" Gilligan

 

[Human Trashcan]

Chuck was 100% right, even if he's a prick.

This is basically the show summarized. Yeah Chuck can be a prick but he's also right about just about everything.

 

[SDCowboy]

Probably not, just spit balling something that Vince hasn't tried yet. I imagine a number of her scenes this season don't even relate to a full breakdown, but more so to provide a contrast on how Jimmy and Kim handle stress. You see Kim showering in the gym, and Jimmy at his car. You see her mini-break with Erin, and Jimmies with the probation officer, and with the cute make up girl, and again at the bar, and again with the insurance. Jimmy can't handle stress, which leads to me think we'll get a classic "You have no clue what I'm going through right now!" from Jimmy, and Kim putting him in his place. I just hope they do something more than having her leave leave, unless Jimmy does something truly awful to cause it.

Also, it's criminal that the film crew members aren't named yet. Stop developing characters who don't have names!!!

Vince "My background characters have better development than your main cast" Gilligan

The scene with him breaking down at the insurance place was another plot to get at his brother (if you are talking about last night's episode). That wasn't him actually breaking down.

 

[Cornballer]

- TVLine Interview: Better Call Saul's Rhea Seehorn on Kim's Guilty Conscience

A few quotes from this:

TVLINE | Kim scored a big win at Jimmy’s disbarment hearing, but it looks like she’s still wracked with guilt about what that did to Chuck.

I think it’s taking a toll on her. It’s a very large brick in a wall that was already being built. Because the Mesa Verde guilt is still weighing on her… the ill-gotten gains. One of the biggest things that shapes Kim this season is being forced to let go of living in black and white, and “good and bad” not being the same as “legal and illegal.” [Chuck’s] whole unraveling on the stand had so many implications. It’s a further trampling of any ideals Kim might have had, as someone who’s trying to operate on the right side of the law. To ruin someone like that… his career must be deeply damaged, if not over at that point. And that weighs on her.

And the alterations in Jimmy’s conscience, I think, Kim is observing as well. That causes a distance, for many reasons. He is her only confidant, and when you see Kim start to unravel, especially this scene at Mesa Verde… she’s not sleeping, she’s not even going home to shower. Control has been the way she’s gotten herself out of everything, up until now. And it’s beginning to be her Kryptonite. [At the hotel bar], she makes this attempt to tell Jimmy: “I’m starting to unravel,” just for a second to be that vulnerable. And unfortunately, in that moment, he goes further away. It’s sort of a lost opportunity, which makes that scene so terribly sad — not just us watching Jimmy start to lose his conscience, but Kim start to lose, really, her only anchor. It’s a terribly tragic scene. They’re not able to meet each other where they’re at. They’re both somewhere else.

TVLINE | There’s a rebellious side to Kim, isn’t there? We’ve seen it with the cigarettes, and the Giselle alter ego…

There’s certainly more to Kim than what she presents to people. You’ve seen her be a chameleon in a lot of ways. I think she’s much more relaxed and funnier and more wry when she’s with Jimmy. There seems to be some darker part of her. There’s also more tragedy in her than I think I, at first, understood. She’s truly a loner, except for Jimmy, and does not let many people in. Anyone that holds their cards that close to their chest, I’ve always thought there’s a dangerous side to that person. A tragic side. And they just keep giving these little fissure cracks where you see it.

TVLINE | Kim heard the name “Saul Goodman” for the first time last week. Her reaction was hard to read: befuddled, but also sort of impressed at the same time.

[Laughs] That was a fun scene to play, because there’s so much mixed up in it. There’s the sadness of the other stuff, and her needing a release. I think they desperately want to connect with each other again. Both of them have been floating out to sea quite a bit, and it’s kind of like you finally get the chance to pull the rafts closer for a minute. When Jimmy’s not doing something that has ill consequences, Kim sort of loves, as much as our viewers do, when he colors out of the lines with such incredible flourish. I think Kim loves that. It’s sort of ingenious. It takes her a minute. You see her doing the math on, “Wait, is this legal? Can you actually do this?” And once the answer comes up, “I think so”… she loves it. But it’s extremely odd. Someone you’ve known for eleven years just made up a name and an entire character, and is now doing insane commercials on TV. It amuses her, it disturbs her, it confuses her… it’s a strange moment. I don’t think she knows what to make of it.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

The scene with him breaking down at the insurance place was another plot to get at his brother. That wasn't him actually breaking down.

Whynotboth.gif He really needed that money. I think it was exaggerated, and done to get what he wanted, but I don't think it was entirely fake.

 

[SDCowboy]

Whynotboth.gif He really needed that money. I think it was exaggerated, and done to get what he wanted, but I don't think it was entirely fake.

I don't think this is a whynotboth. Once he saw he wasn't getting a refund, the whole point seemed to be to bring up his brother's mental issues to screw him over on the insurance side.

Notice he instantly stopped crying when he left, and smirked on his way out?

 

[stenbumling]

I wonder how many #TeamChuck converts there will be when the season (or series for that matter) ends.

 

[Aiii]

I wonder how many #TeamChuck converts there will be when the season (or series for that matter) ends.

Neither Chuck nor Jimmy deserve teams. Chuck is a jealous asshat and Jimmy is a hustling asshat.

#TeamAsshats

 

[lamaroo]

Fuck. Chuck.

 

[Human Trashcan]

I wonder how many #TeamChuck converts there will be when the season (or series for that matter) ends.

I've been there pretty much since the beginning, not because Chuck is such a great guy, but because he's the only one who's seen Jimmy for who he is the entire time. Jimmy gets away with far too much shit from everyone around him (including the audience), which understandably frustrates the hell out of him. Even going back to their childhood Jimmy was the favorite son despite him stealing from their father.

It's truly one of the best relationship dynamics I've ever seen on television. Chuck is the way he is partly because of "slippin'" Jimmy (hence his worship of the Law and his bitterness, but also his rightful assessment that someone like Jimmy should not work in Law) and Jimmy is the way he is partly because that's just his nature but also partly because Chuck doesn't give him a second (more likely 20th) chance. Ultimately for me the scale is just weighed down a lot harder on Jimmy's side, in the sense that I think Chuck has a stronger moral character than Jimmy, who always does what's easy rather than what's right, without considering how the fallout might affect those around him.

Also I feel something of a need to overcorrect for a large segment of the audience's Jimmy worship. I mean, Rebecca, Kim... how many more characters who are fundamentally decent (as far as we know) need to condemn Jimmy's actions before the viewer gets the hint too? Breaking Bad had this problem to a much larger degree where a majority of the audience rooted for Walt despite him being a monster, simply because he was the protagonist. There's a lot more shades of grey to BCS, which is one of the reasons I think it's a much better show overall.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I don't think this is a whynotboth. Once he saw he wasn't getting a refund, the whole point seemed to be to bring up his brother's mental issues to screw him over on the insurance side.

Noticed he instantly stopped crying when he left, and smirked on his way out?

I don't know, I guess you could argue 4d chess. That he already knew about the premium upcharge, and needed a convincing way of telling them, that didn't seem like it was malicious. I'm not sure why that would matter, but I'd assume that Chuck trying to hide it makes it look worse on him.

I think it just depends on how you look at it. We don't know if Jimmy went in with that intention, and she bought up the new charges, not him, so it could go either way. The look on his face at the end seemed like he didn't know about the increase going in, which would point to a spur of the moment anger breakdown, turned into to sadness to manipulate.

 

[Niraj]

I was mad at what a manipulative, vindictive asshole he was, but a part of me was also pretty impressed at Bob Odenkirk's acting. I've been a fan of his since the freaking Ben Stiller show, who knew he had that in him?!?

He's doing some really great work on this show for sure.

 

[SDCowboy]

edit: nvm

 

[Lothar]

I don't see more shades of grey. I understand the motivations of the worst villains of Breaking Bad more than I understand the motivations of Chuck. I don't get why he hates Jimmy so much and won't give him a chance. Walt wasn't ruining people's careers for no reasons. He always had reasons.

 

[SDCowboy]

I don't see more shades of grey. I understand the motivations of the worst villains of Breaking Bad more than I understand the motivations of Chuck. I don't get why he hates Jimmy so much and won't give him a chance. Walt wasn't ruining people's careers for no reasons. He always had reasons.

It seems to based on extreme jealously and possibly paranoia.

 

[Human Trashcan]

I don't see more shades of grey. I understand the motivations of the worst villains of Breaking Bad more than I understand the motivations of Chuck. I don't get why he hates Jimmy so much and won't give him a chance. Walt wasn't ruining people's careers for no reasons. He always had reasons.

He doesn't hate Jimmy. He just didn't want him working at HHM since he would inevitably do some stupid shit that would reflect badly on him and embarrass him (which is almost certainly right). Remember he had no qualms at all about Jimmy working at Davis & Main despite some skepticism.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I don't see more shades of grey. I understand the motivations of the worst villains of Breaking Bad more than I understand the motivations of Chuck. I don't get why he hates Jimmy so much and won't give him a chance. Walt wasn't ruining people's careers for no reasons. He always had reasons.

He didn't want Jimmy ruining his law firm like, as Chuck thinks, he ruined his parents business. He did help him. He helped him with Sandpiper, which lead to a better job that Jimmy botched completely. Honestly, Jimmy should just put Chuck behind him. He doesn't need Chucks help now. He's making good money from Elder Law, a respectable career. At this point, Jimmy and Kim could put Chuck behind them completely, but Jimmy won't let it go, both Chuck and Jimmy are both obsessed little brats right now. It can't just end, someone has to win.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

I don't see more shades of grey. I understand the motivations of the worst villains of Breaking Bad more than I understand the motivations of Chuck. I don't get why he hates Jimmy so much and won't give him a chance. Walt wasn't ruining people's careers for no reasons. He always had reasons.

I get why Chuck hates Jimmy -- it's because no one loves Chuck despite how dutiful and responsible he is, and people do love Jimmy despite how destructive and irresponsible he is. It's as simple as that.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

Also I feel something of a need to overcorrect for a large segment of the audience's Jimmy worship. I mean, Rebecca, Kim... how many more characters who are fundamentally decent (as far as we know) need to condemn Jimmy's actions before the viewer gets the hint too? Breaking Bad had this problem to a much larger degree where a majority of the audience rooted for Walt despite him being a monster, simply because he was the protagonist. There's a lot more shades of grey to BCS, which is one of the reasons I think it's a much better show overall.

Both shows have this basic conflict where the primary engine of the show comes out of the fun of being surprised at watching the lead character solving challenges in creative ways (whether vis magnets, chemstry, or gift of gab), and yet the main character is doing this in pursuit of bad ends and driving away his loved one by doing so. That tension is the same. I feel like they are going to have to end Jimmy's story differently from Walt's so they don't repeat themselves. I feel like this show is probably going to deal with that tension in a more mature way -- meaning I never felt like we got a full feel for how destructive Walt was to his family, or how much Walt himself felt that. His final scenes with them were all over the phone or in that one very cold final scene with Skylar. Whereas here the series is framed by Jimmy being alone, no family, no loved ones. Walt is the one who destroys him in the end, and he's dead, so he can't get vengeance like Walt did. That leaves only redemption, which could be interesting.

 

[Oathbreaker]

Well done, Saul DEVIlman.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I don't think anyone's asking you to feel sorry for Chuck. It's just a general acknowledgement that he accurately assessed the realities of the situation and didn't cross any boundaries in doing so.

LEGAL boundaries.

He crossed a lot of personal ones along the way.

 

[CharminUltra]

Jimmy has already crossed many lines at this point, but he crossed a hell of a line during last night's episode.

 

[Digital Snake]

Jeez, this episode has been brutal in so many ways.

Edit: Extremely brutal considering

Spoiler

that's how Mike dies as well as many of Walt's victims. No one ever finds them, all gone in acid

Maybe I'm forgetting but from this weeks episode, what are you referencing?

 

[____]

Maybe I'm forgetting but from this weeks episode, what are you referencing?

I think he means the story of the lady in the church that her

Spoiler

military husband's body was never found.

 

[Donos]

It was a really shitty thing to do. I'm sure it would have eventually happened, but still.

Jimmy is so polar in his personality. He is 100% committed to the idea of paying people for their time, and yet fucks Chuck over.

Because since Chuck went through with the tape stuff jimmy was suspended for 1 year which puts him into a lot of trouble. Snapping point was the 150% rise in his premium. He hustles hard to get money to support kim only to find out that he has to pay more than double for the insurance when he can work as a lawyer again. Since the sum is payed for the whole year in advance, that's probably a hefty sum.

That was just to much for him and he had to release pressure by giving Chuck back a bit of the misery. Also i don't think that Chuck has any money problems so that is probably not so painful for him.

That face of Kim at the bar was really the realization in what dark shit Jimmy is, that he would really consider that con and also possibly getting her in danger...

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

For that final scene-- put me down for Jimmy having an actual breakdown and then stuffing those feelings down by turning it on his brother.

I also think it's the first time we've really seen Saul Goodman.

Chuck's not getting anything he doesn't deserve in that sequence (as it really is in the insurance company's best interest to know Chuck can break down in court) which makes it a Chuck-like maneuver. Legal (for a change) but completely over the moral line.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to find Jimmy pretty hateable before long.

 

[Donos]

Don't get how you can't "root" for the "monster" in fiction. Like deniro in heat or butler in law abiding citizen.

Iggychoochoo said it well, it's interesting to see the development of the characters and how they solve challenges, even if morally wrong. I can admire how that character managed that and even post "Go Walt, Empire Business baby!"

Mike probably killed a lot of people already so I'm not allowed to like him?

 

[Corpekata]

Law Abiding Citizen is a strange reference point.

 

[faceless007]

That was just to much for him and he had to release pressure by giving Chuck back a bit of the misery. Also i don't think that Chuck has any money problems so that is probably not so painful for him.

I wonder if it's not about making Chuck spend more money, but because lawyers need malpractice insurance to be able to practice (I don't know whether that's a legal requirement in NM, but any reputable firm like HHM would assuredly require that of its associates), the insurance company might cut off Chuck's policy because of the new information. Anything getting in the way of him practicing law, as we know, would be (another) critical hit to his ego and self-worth.

 

[Veelk]

LEGAL boundaries.

He crossed a lot of personal ones along the way.

If you say so. I'm talking about moral boundaries. What Chuck did to keep Mesa Verde wasn't immoral, so acting as if Jimmy was entitled to scam him in return is just nonsensical to me, however personally Jimmy may take it. Jimmy, by harming an innocent third party, did.

 

[Dominican Power]

Jeez, this episode has been brutal in so many ways.

Edit: Extremely brutal considering

Spoiler

that's how Mike dies as well as many of Walt's victims. No one ever finds them, all gone in acid

I don't remember Mike being put in acid. He was just left to die.

 

[Nowise10]

Sad we gotta wait two weeks for the next episode. The preview for it makes it look like a great one.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I don't remember Mike being put in acid. He was just left to die.

You're misremembering. Walt brought him back to the hide out, Todd helped him move the body into a tub.

 

[CharminUltra]

You're misremembering. Walt brought him back to the hide out, Todd helped him move the body into a tub.

No, you are misremembering. He went on a trip to Belize.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

I wonder if it's not about making Chuck spend more money, but because lawyers need malpractice insurance to be able to practice (I don't know whether that's a legal requirement in NM, but any reputable firm like HHM would assuredly require that of its associates), the insurance company might cut off Chuck's policy because of the new information. Anything getting in the way of him practicing law, as we know, would be (another) critical hit to his ego and self-worth.

I would have assumed HHM would buy insurance for their lawyers in a group rather than the lawyers buying it individually. In the event of malpractice, HHM's clients would sue HHM, not individual lawyers, right? Granted I know nothing about the subject. But even if Chuck's rate goes way up, he's probably still making mid-6 figures as a partner at one of the leading law firms in the state. Chuck probably makes a lot plus probably has a lot invested, and he doesn't appear to spend extravagantly. He has a nice house and a Jaguar, but nothing insane for that income level. He has no kids. This article makes it seem that that wouldn't affect him that much materially, making it more an insult than anything else.

http://www.iflforlawyers.com/average-cost-legal-malpractice-insurance/

Edit: actually the house is pretty dated. Hard to say what the value is, but the neighborhood isn't obviously wealthy. The only thing we know of that might have really hurt Chuck financially is the divorce, but I think it's pretty likely that he lives way below his means and has a lot squirreled away.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I would have assumed HHM would buy insurance for their lawyers in a group rather than the lawyers buying it individually. In the event of malpractice, HHM's clients would sue HHM, not individual lawyers, right? Granted I know nothing about the subject. But even if Chuck's rate goes way up, he's probably still making mid-6 figures as a partner at one of the leading law firms in the state. Chuck probably makes a lot plus probably has a lot invested, and he doesn't appear to spend extravagantly. He has a nice house and a Jaguar, but nothing insane for that income level. He has no kids. This article makes it seem that that wouldn't affect him that much materially, making it more an insult than anything else.

http://www.iflforlawyers.com/average-cost-legal-malpractice-insurance/

That's the impression I got. Like when a driving company buys driving insurance for their employers, and than a driving related charge can cause you to get fired because it spikes their premium. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the final straw for Howard, who could have dropped Chuck a long time ago for mental concerns, but has indulged him because he wants Chuck to return.