Anoregon
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Doesn't Exodus use tvaddons as a repository?
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Some prominent Kodi addons are being pulled due to legal threat
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Doesn't Exodus use tvaddons as a repository?
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Ah, I'm guess that's what those modded Amazon Fire TVs I see all over Craigslist are then.
Eye for an Eye
Member
Kodi is opensourced, unlike other streaming services. So they take a premade box, like chromecast, firestick, or a roku and jailbreak it. Then they install the Kodi system and because Kodi doesn't have any barriers, pirates software can be installed to stream stuff.
I wonder if they'll start cracking down on the user than just the software developers. Most people smart enough stream using a VPN. The average idiot that thinks it's a magical box streams directly from their own internet.
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no one gives a fuck, gotta get paid
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no one gives a fuck, gotta get paid
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The Jazz Cabbage Master
Member
These things seem dangerous to mess with. A few of my coworkers constantly brag about all the movies available to them and I don't want to touch that shit with a 10 ft stick
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
Phoenix is a huge addon but the big shoe to drop would be Exodus. If that addon gets removed then a lot of peoples boxes become paper weights.
Eye for an Eye
Member
There's plenty of open source coding out there. People need to learn that just because they can do something that breaks the law, doesn't mean they won't get punished for it.
It's not the creators of Kodi that are jailbreaking other systems to install it or creating the illegal streaming content.
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
Its a dirty not-so-secret service many cord cutters use and then pretend as if they dont need cable.
Massive Nights
Member
Kodi is a media player, why would it be illegal??
ambar_hitman
Member
This is good. No sympathy for the pirates. I had PlayStation Vue till now, just switched to YouTube TV. But my colleagues use kodi and they always were boasting about how they watch everything for free and why am I paying. Idiots.
Eye for an Eye
Member
Many sites are blocking sales of it like Amazon and ebay, but people are just using work around words to bypass the computer checks. The software OS might not be illegal, but it's only through modifications of an existing system that make it easier to justifing the block of a sale.
First time I hear of these things, I guess I'm not in the loop with this stuff. I'm surprised to see people here seemingly brazenly admitting to pirating shit though.
yea but if it were up to the movie industry anyone using kodi to play their ripped blu-rays should be in jail.
SwipeLeftHoney
Banned
That's not true at all.. It's not Kodi they're blocking the sales of. It's the ones with the add-ons pre-installed that they're blocking.
1. TV is a luxury. You don't need it.
2. Netflix and other streaming services are relatively cheap for the vast majority of people.
3. Most of those people using these simply don't want to pay for the content. They could if they wanted to.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
ISP could technically begin to blacklist the domains. It took me all of 10 minutes to download the add-on and find the all the URLs they're hitting to see content.
SwordStruck
Member
Kodi is an open source media player. What sites are blocking is the products that use the Kodi front-end with unaffiliated add-ons that provide access to illegal content.
Can they afford it? Don't most Americans live paycheck to paycheck? Not gonna really defend piracy but a good amount of people really can't afford TV. Sure you can say then don't watch it, it's a luxury, but we both know that isn't gonna happen.
You can shut these plugins down but more will pop up. It happens every time. If people had higher wages and more disposable income they might be more willing pay for it.
Eye for an Eye
Member
Those are the ones that people want because why use it for something legal and boring.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Pirating movies, especially brand new blu-rays is probably always going to be an issue, but I feel a lot less strongly about TV shows. Between services I pay for and services I have access to via family members accounts, I have premium cable (and all the related on-demand options including HBO go), netflix, hulu, and amazon prime. If I want to watch an episode of a TV show and it is not available on any of those services, I am not going to give up or say "oh well I guess I have to buy the DVD" when there are other options out there.
I know that might be a dangerous thing to say on gaf given the strict anti-piracy stance, but it's not something I think is very unreasonable.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Eye for an Eye
Member
It's not much different than Napster or Limewire and other music download sites. Many popped up in the early 2000's after Napster got hit. But eventually paid music became the norm and people accepted it. XM radios, itunes, Amazon prime, and whatever google and mocrosoft services are. I'm sure there are plenty of black market programs still running, but aren't as easily accessible to the average idiot.
If only they put in the same effort into distributing content world wide, maybe people wouldn't pirate as much. It's crazy that I can't watch most tv shows legally, I have money, I would gladly pay you, but there's literally no way to buy your content, so I turn to piracy a lot of the time. It's infuriating. Thankfully streaming is slowly getting better, but there's still a lot I can't watch in my country. If you can't sell the rights to country's main network, maybe just try selling the show to your consumers, instead of sitting on the show, making no money?
SoRuffShoNuff
Member
The way you stop piracy is by making it easier to consume the content legally than it is to pirate it. Spotify and other music streaming services are successful now because it's easier to consume music using those services than it is to pirate it. If there was a pirate version of Spotify then people would be all over that.
Thing is, it would be very difficult to make consuming movies and TV shows legally easier than what Kodi allows and also be profitable. You can't do it. On Kodi you can get the movies while they are in the theater and the TV shows often before they even air, all without commercials. The content on kodi is also easily searchable and often grouped by popularity. It also has damn near EVERYTHING. How can you compete with that with a legal service? I know plenty of people that have canceled all of their streaming services and cable TV and only use Kodi and OTA channels. They can afford Netflix as they were paying for it for years but since Kodi is right there with EVERYTHING and it's free, they ask themselves why should they pay.
It is unreasonable though. You're saying you want content but don't feel the creators deserve to get paid for it if it inconveniences you slightly.
I could understand if there was no legal way for you to get those shows, but they are easily accessible for a relatively cheap price.
Convenience.
Regardless of how you feel about it, no paid service will ever have the sheer variety that some of these addons provided in one place. It literally was almost every show ever made in one place for free.
The weirdest and saddest thing about it is that these addons will live on for other platforms (they're just url scrubbers on existing streaming sites that will continue with or without kodi) but Kodi's software distribution and future sales potential will almost certain die with the addons as people move to another home archival software, like plex. Now that the potential is gone, it makes Kodi, which is an amazing piece of software, seem dramatically limited by comparison.
The ones hurt the most by these entire few years of development are Kodi themselves, which is too bad. They were pioneering things for almost a decade.
I'll be the first one to say that both hollywood and TV land need to start working a lot harder to make sure their stuff is available online, pay or otherwise, because clearly other people will do it for them if they decide not to. I cannot count on fingers and toes how many times I've gone to canistreamit.com and tried to find a movie, only to find that it was unavailable on one of the 8 top streaming sources out there.
LOTS. It's just that the ones that are easiest to use with the largest distribution are gone or are shutting down. There are Kodi add-ons that do amazing stuff with local libraries still.
Marty Chinn
Member
Examples? Recommendations?
I assume a lot of these people are paying for something whether it's Netflix or Hulu. I think the problem becomes that once you're paying ~$20-30 per month for both of those services, throw another $15 on for HBO Now and you still don't have access to current offerings from say FX or ESPN.
The whole thing is a mess. What really is going on here is that a good amount of people are telling studios that their movies aren't worth the price of admission or TV shows aren't worth the cost of paying for all of these different streaming services. How does the industry react? Movie ticket prices go up, we get different content providers creating their own streaming services with shows more spread out so you have to spend more money for more services. So then you have the average person that wants to keep up with Game of Thrones but doesn't want to pay for 3 months of access to HBO. So they just pirate it because it's convenient and free is better than $45. I don't know what the solution is but I find it to be an interesting example of the "free market" where people are deciding that the cost of goods is more than they are willing to pay.
Mortimer Brewster
Member
Even plenty still around that do the same things that Exodus, SALTS etc. Just have know where to look and have a rudimentary knowledge of apks and installing apps on android outside the play store. I had already moved away from Tvaddons so it's not the biggest deal.
Turbo Killer
Member
Iol, who the hell uses dish network anyway? Aren't they like the least popular of all the satellite and cable providers, maybe improve your shitty service first.
I use HDRUN in order to use kodi as a cable box media extender to TV's in rooms that don't have jacks. It works surprisingly well.
There's a really good music video repository that I used to use, but I can't remember the name of it.
I mean, piracy, in an of itself, is a hydra that waits for no man.
Baseball fans. I believe Extra Innings is still DISH exclusive
Sling TV is a very popular streaming service
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
How the hell did the kodi thing spread like wildfire anyway?
I know a ton of non tech savvy people that all use it. People I would've never expected to even hear about it let alone know how to use it.
I know a ton of non tech savvy people that all use it. People I would've never expected to even hear about it let alone know how to use it.
brianjones
Member
YouTube install guides..takes all of 10 minutes
isaacnukem
Member
I use Kodi to play videos and music, didn't know it could stream illegally though.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
No. "Inconvenience slightly" would be if I just had Netflix and didn't find it there, so I turn around and torrent it. Not finding it on demand or any of the three main subscription services moves firmly into "get your shit together" territory.
I'm sure you disagree, but it's just not something I can feel guilty about when there are already four legit paid services in the picture.
I think you do it by making streaming and pirating difficult (which it certainly is getting), and release your content simultaneously world wide on as many services as possible (if you haven't sold the rights to a country's network). It won't solve piracy, but I certainly wouldn't bother pirating if they did that.
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