Such a baffling art choice.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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Such a baffling art choice.
goldlion054
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There has to be a way to make a decent Jund -1/-1 counters standard deck, right? Hapatra, Merciless Javelineer, archfiend, decimator beetle, channeler initiate, scorpion God, and the new black and white split card all seem viable. Maybe even festering maybe mummy?
Probably not a real life thing, but could be fun. lots of synergy. Creates interesting math versus GB Snek. Can't beat a control deck pre-board. Maybe I'll run with it after the full spoiler is out
Probably not a real life thing, but could be fun. lots of synergy. Creates interesting math versus GB Snek. Can't beat a control deck pre-board. Maybe I'll run with it after the full spoiler is out
The problem with a standard -1/-1 counters deck is that you're relying almost solely on cards from one block. There's no support for -1/-1 counters anywhere else in standard, and judging from the leaks there won't be any in Ixalan either.
If you want to try and make one, more power to you I guess.
If you want to try and make one, more power to you I guess.
shrapnelmagnet
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I am guessing that since they are exiled, no. But I am guessing.
Yes, it has the subtype Desert added since a fairly long time already.
shrapnelmagnet
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Not sure if this is a thing, but Inner Sanctum is Reserved List and has a decent effect. And in the same colours as Solemnity.
http://magiccards.info/query?q=Inner+Sanctum
http://magiccards.info/query?q=Inner+Sanctum
SigmasonicX
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Doesn't do anything about kill spells, though.Not sure if this is a thing, but Inner Sanctum is Reserved List and has a decent effect. And in the same colours as Solemnity.
http://magiccards.info/query?q=Inner+Sanctum
Imperfected
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Ways to cheat cumulative upkeep already existed, so I wouldn't expect any amazing new tech.
This deck is a thing of beauty: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/679040#paper
But I own like 10% of the cards for it and they're certainly not called Jace, Snappy, LotV, or Goryo's Vengeance.
But I own like 10% of the cards for it and they're certainly not called Jace, Snappy, LotV, or Goryo's Vengeance.
oh my god how have i never discovered this combo before
please magic gods one time
What combo?
Oh, I was expecting something more elaborate lmao
Imperfected
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yeah but it's niv-mizzet
aw yiss
I mean, Protean Hulk was banned from EDH for a long time because it was one of the easiest and most pervasive early game combo out win conditions. People sort of have built-in expectations for the level of degeneracy you're going to display when you say you've found a new Protean Hulk "combo".
Familienoberhauptvogel
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that's a nonbo
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
legit though assault loam is the best combo in the world.
It's just so much fun.
It's just so much fun.
Remembrance
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So all your noncreature spells cost 1.
blindrocket
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My favourite combo:
lol
lol
Watching a version of this deck on stream, it's pretty cool. I knew of the Madcap trick with Platinum Emperion, but I hadn't actually see it in action. It works well in Mardu colors.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/678140#paper
Familienoberhauptvogel
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not anynore apparently
No. There's fifteen deserts in the set, and that rules out the rest of the cycle.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Protean Hulk combos generally make you win immediately
To be fair, Firemind's "combo" was in limited.
The fetches in masters sets instead of in standard is such a monumental fuck up. That shit need to be depressed to 15 bucks
pseudocaesar
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Any suggestions on my deck? Im thinking of swapping Spire of Industry in for either 4 of my basic lands, or the Aether Hub's. Any other suggestions as far as the vehicles/creatures etc?
Lands (22)
4 Aether Hub
4 Canyon Slough
4 Inspiring Vantage
6 Mountain
4 Plains
Spells (19)
2 Aethersphere Harvester
4 Heart of Kiran
2 Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
1 Chandra, Flamecaller
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
4 Harnessed Lightning
4 Unlicensed Disintegration
Creatures (19)
3 Pia Nalaar
4 Scrapheap Scrounger
4 Thraben Inspector
4 Toolcraft Exemplar
4 Veteran Motorist
Lands (22)
4 Aether Hub
4 Canyon Slough
4 Inspiring Vantage
6 Mountain
4 Plains
Spells (19)
2 Aethersphere Harvester
4 Heart of Kiran
2 Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
1 Chandra, Flamecaller
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
4 Harnessed Lightning
4 Unlicensed Disintegration
Creatures (19)
3 Pia Nalaar
4 Scrapheap Scrounger
4 Thraben Inspector
4 Toolcraft Exemplar
4 Veteran Motorist
Maro in his tumblr.
I'm VERY concerned. I don't trust them doing Dominaria with their "modern sensibilities".
I'm VERY concerned. I don't trust them doing Dominaria with their "modern sensibilities".
Poodlestrike
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Yeahhhh that sounds like a bad idea.
Fundamentally he's wrong. Sections of worlds built for specific stories need to have singular cohesive themes, but really great worldbuilding is about creating a place that can tell all sorts of different stories in a connected way, which means having a ton of variety. Planet of Hats is a snarky dismissal but that doesn't make it wrong.
I don't really see how his counter argument makes sense. Of course just slapping two random planes together- and only two- would feel unnatural. The real world is incredibly diverse- two completely different halves makes little more sense than one unified whole as neither gets even close to what we see on earth. Additionally, real world cultures have bled into each other in varying degrees of strength. While two places may feel distinct, there are still influences that might connect them. Lastly, all real world cultures must ultimately obey the same rules of reality; there isn't a different conception of the laws of physics in Egypt as there is in Greece in the same way that the rules of magic can differ greatly from plane to plane.
SigmasonicX
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... Did anyone actually like that Ice Age and Mirage were the same world? I feel like this is just nostalgia.
RE Maro & Dominaria: After telling us how Kaladesh was "the awesome set" and breaking Standard for the last year, I have no faith left in his "just trust us" pre-set speeches. Sorry Maro, all that goodwill and trust is gone. Prove me wrong, but I am now worried.
RE Cumulative Upkeep cards: I bought four of a few I thought stood out today. Just in case something breaks open. Was worth the several dollars to not regret it later in case something busts loose.
RE Cumulative Upkeep cards: I bought four of a few I thought stood out today. Just in case something breaks open. Was worth the several dollars to not regret it later in case something busts loose.
Imperfected
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At the time I honestly didn't think or care enough about Magic's setting to even realize. Most of the cards back then were super generic anyway, so it was only now and then that I'd even bothered to ask myself, "Who is Urza, anyway?"
And frankly, even when I did, I had enough experience with dumb AD&D spells to just assume he was some god-awful PC from someone's home campaign.
I don't LIKE it but I don't dislike it either. And nostalgia isn't irrelevant. Hell that's why they're doing Dominaria again.
My worry is this. You can't just pretend a plane with a diverse group of settings and a decade or so of history has just one identity. You can't retcon them away. So what do you do? Is it going to be some crazy event that realigns the plane or something? There's no clean answer here, and I think they're going to screw up Magic's birthplace. I worry greatly for how they're going to go forward now with the language used in that post.
The problem with "streamlining" Dominaria is that you can't do it.
Like, when I think of Dominaria, I think of my favorite sets that took place there. Mirage block. Odyssey block.
For someone else it's gonna be Ice Age and Urza's block. Their first return - Time Spiral - worked because it was an absolute clusterfuck of a set that filled every card to the brim with weird, obscure references. If you sand off those edges, what are you left with? Urza and the Weatherlight Saga, I guess.
Dominaria is an era of Magic, not a place. Return to Dominaria is like "Return to Mirrodin-Kamigawa-Ravnica-Time Spiral-Lorwyn" - a lot of disparate ideas that are only tied together by the design sensibilities and nostalgia of the people playing during that era.
Like, when I think of Dominaria, I think of my favorite sets that took place there. Mirage block. Odyssey block.
Fallen Empires.
Dominaria is an era of Magic, not a place. Return to Dominaria is like "Return to Mirrodin-Kamigawa-Ravnica-Time Spiral-Lorwyn" - a lot of disparate ideas that are only tied together by the design sensibilities and nostalgia of the people playing during that era.
A big issue with multi-verse narratives and what not is that each universe (or planet or whatever) tend to feel really small and monotone. I don't know how you coalesce Dominaria into one "vision" without making it very generic. Doesn't it just end up like Shandalaar?
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