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Better Call Saul S3 |OT| Gus Who's Back - Mondays 10/9c on AMC
- Thread starter TheOddOne
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I'm starting to tell myself "if AMC did drop them they could obviously just go to Netflix."
Blockbuster scene was 👌 I miss Blockbuster.
We should do one of those #hastag movements.
Grinchy
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He probably used Lily of the Valley
He does for a lot of the television threads and i greatly appreciate that
brianmcdoogle
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Nice references to The Conversation, down to the jazz music.
SeriuzBiznus
Member
This.
Also regarding the ratings, overnights and even 7-day consolidated numbers are becoming less and less relevant. 30-day and general series reach is the new focus with advertisers shifting their interests to targeting VOD viewers instead of live broadcast.
I'd expect AMC's analytics teams will compile a full season report over the next month or so and that will have the numbers that's the bosses will be interested in.
HP_Wuvcraft
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This is a really solid theory.
Cornballer
Member
Once again, don't fret the renewal. From the THR interview:
Here's a thought. I don't think Howard wants money from Chuck, he certainly doesn't need it, but... Howard agreed to buy out Chuck's share of HHM. Chuck killing himself doesn't negate this because his partnership and share in HHM is a real tangible thing of value. What happens to it now? Did Chuck negate the agreement in his will? Did he not leave a will? Did he appoint Jimmy as his executor? All of this could play into Jimmy and Kim going up against Howard again.
Lord of Castamere
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I really hope we get 3 more seasons. 1 more to solidify Saul, 1 after for Jimmy to alienate Kim(if he hasn't already), and a final season with half Gene and the other Saul. A parallel season with a very much alone Jimmy doing horrible things, living in misery, and a Gene who's finding himself again, maybe even redeeming himself in some way, or going out in a blaze of glory.
The only time I want Walter to even be brought up is if it's by Gene.
Also, Chuck was pretty clearly not in his right mind for many years before he died, which means the easiest route to challenge a will would be to claim he was insane at the time that he made it. That would certainly lead to some interesting court scenes.
There could also be some added drama from Chuck's ex wife. She didn't seem to pleased with Jimmy the last time they met, so may hold him responsible.
Lol no she doesn't look early 30's. You can see it in her face more like mid 30's/begin 40's.
We must be watching different shows. Chuck and Jimmy's relationship is definitely more interesting to me. They seem more well drawn. I still love Walt and Jesse though.
Human Trashcan
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I'm rewatching it right now! It's just not nearly as interesting a dynamic imo.
Dude not even remotely are you serious. There's still the Post-BB stuff and finding out why Kim isn't with Jimmy during BB. Huge portions of the story are missing.
That said I can easily see S4 being the last one with these ratings.
Grinchy
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Oh, I noticed immediately. I'm a big fan of all of her scenes wearing those nice, tight jeans. Her ass looked amazing in those PJs.
You just have to be careful around here when talking about being attracted to women.
Mike has not told Gus, or Gus would have killed Nacho before he even got a chance to swap the pills. The entire point of the Gus/Mike introduction was that no one is allowed to kill, or harm Hector except Gus. That's his mouse to play with.
I didn't think her age was listed anywhere.
Ignatz Mouse
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Not that she minds when I do, but I did stifle a comment in front of my wife.
Human Trashcan
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No, you just have to be careful not to sound like a massive creeplord
Cornballer
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Sepinwall and Grubb spent a while talking about BCS on their podcast this week. A couple of things that they brought up.
1) How involved is Howard next season? They'd be stupid to not continue on with him in some fashion, but it's not immediately clear how that would happen. His personal reaction to Chuck's demise is important on some level as is probably dealing with the legalities of this, mainly where Chuck's money ends up and where things stood on the HHM buyout.
2) How much material do they have left in the current time period and Jimmy's transformation into Saul?
3) What are your priorities in terms of what the show has left to cover. Grubb said that Kim's fate and the Jimmy to Saul transition were the two most important to him. Mike seems like he's in a place where they can continue to use him on the show, but I'm not sure there's that much necessary material to bridge from here to when we meet him on Breaking Bad. There's more to tell about Nacho, though it's not critical that we see it.
They also brought up that if this is the incident that does the damage to Hector, he won't have any more speaking lines on the show. *ding*
1) How involved is Howard next season? They'd be stupid to not continue on with him in some fashion, but it's not immediately clear how that would happen. His personal reaction to Chuck's demise is important on some level as is probably dealing with the legalities of this, mainly where Chuck's money ends up and where things stood on the HHM buyout.
2) How much material do they have left in the current time period and Jimmy's transformation into Saul?
3) What are your priorities in terms of what the show has left to cover. Grubb said that Kim's fate and the Jimmy to Saul transition were the two most important to him. Mike seems like he's in a place where they can continue to use him on the show, but I'm not sure there's that much necessary material to bridge from here to when we meet him on Breaking Bad. There's more to tell about Nacho, though it's not critical that we see it.
They also brought up that if this is the incident that does the damage to Hector, he won't have any more speaking lines on the show. *ding*
Morrigan Stark
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Aye. Which we can safely say he failed miserably at.
This.
That being said, I like her business skirt/suit selection. Besides sounding like a creep, they really fit her well.
crisdecuba
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Tidbit from the insider podcast: her skirts / pants never quite match her jackets. It was a choice made by the wardrobe director (I may be mistaking the title) -- the thinking is that Kim still shops at places like Marshalls for her attire and has to mix and match off-the-rack pieces. It's part of her character since she came up through the mailroom and is basically trying, but not quite succeeding, at fitting into a different social / economic class. And what's more interesting is that it's not so much for the audience (we can't really tell), but rather for the actress as part of embodying the character.
The level of care and thought that goes into this show is impressive.
One thing I've been wondering is whether they intend to cover any of Saul during the Breaking Bad period. I'm not sure whether it's wholly necessary, but it might be interesting to see Saul during that time aside from his interactions with Jesse and Walt. Possibly even during Breaking Bad, but prior to Saul's introduction as well. Having just recently watched Breaking Bad again, I had forgotten how little Saul is actually featured on the show. It could add more depth to his character by showing how he is off the clock, so to speak, but I think it would also be challenging to do it in an organic fashion. Doubtlessly, that would appeal much more to people who have seen Breaking Bad before as well, which would also be a challenge. Again, not sure if that's something that's necessary exactly to get into, but it's interesting to think about.
In terms of your questions, for the first one, I guess there's still the Sandpiper stuff, and Chuck's buyout, as mentioned. People have mentioned Chuck's will, which could also possibly be a point of contention. I think delving into the growing bitterness between Kim and Howard could also be something for them to look into.
Definitely hard to say on the second point. There'd almost have to be some time jumps you'd think at some point. It continually seems like they're on the cusp of him fully transitioning, but then they curb it a bit. Personally, I'd say at least by the end of next season he should be Saul proper, but knowing them I could see it being mid-season. What amount of time that will cover though, I'm not totally sure right now.
I'd certainly like to see more of Nacho, particularly in relation to Saul, since we already know they get involved in something prior to Saul's introduction in Breaking Bad. Mike, I guess we'd probably just see more of how he grows more attached to Gus. It's curious that he still helps Jimmy out in Breaking Bad at least, I'd like to see more of that here as well. Kim and Jimmy to Saul are definitely the most important bits though.
Yep. The other show I remember seeing this level of care in a purely realistic wardrobe was Mad Men. It even inspired an entire column about the clothing choices for each episode.
MontyBrown
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Don't judge me.
Too late.
Ignatz Mouse
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Same here, sometimes I'd look forward to it almost as much as the episode itself.
MontyBrown
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Said what we were all thinking lad.
Robot Pants
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I'm pretty sure there will be five seasons total. Don't need anymore than that.
I do feel four will be one too few, they still need some breathing room to make a real impact. It's gonna be rushed otherwise.
I just hope Sony and AMC let them do it.
The ratings thing isn't really an issue. I'm pretty sure they are right where they expected to be. And also, I know a TON of people who are waiting for it to be all over before they start watching this season. Netflix has spoiled us with the way they release TV shows and a lot of people prefer to just binge.
I know I do.
I do feel four will be one too few, they still need some breathing room to make a real impact. It's gonna be rushed otherwise.
I just hope Sony and AMC let them do it.
The ratings thing isn't really an issue. I'm pretty sure they are right where they expected to be. And also, I know a TON of people who are waiting for it to be all over before they start watching this season. Netflix has spoiled us with the way they release TV shows and a lot of people prefer to just binge.
I know I do.
Human Trashcan
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You actually didn't but keep digging
MosquitoSmasher
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I've been rewatching the first season and man it's just such a fantastic show. Bob Odenkirk and Jonathan Banks both do such a superb job when it comes to acting and their scenes just never get old. That first meeting of the two for example, it always makes me smile.
And of course Jimmy and Chuck. I really like how they are still friendly and normal to eachother there. A real brotherly bond. If you look at that it's just a shame what became of that but I get it. All part of the show. And I didn't even mention the awesome scenes with the skaters and of course Tuco. My bro for example calls it slow show, too slow he says and I just don't get it. I love it.
And the episode Five-o, nuff said.
And of course Jimmy and Chuck. I really like how they are still friendly and normal to eachother there. A real brotherly bond. If you look at that it's just a shame what became of that but I get it. All part of the show. And I didn't even mention the awesome scenes with the skaters and of course Tuco. My bro for example calls it slow show, too slow he says and I just don't get it. I love it.
And the episode Five-o, nuff said.
I'm glad we got as least one happy season finale with them together. Calm before the storm of course.
Great finale. There isn't much for me to say that hasn't already been said in several different ways.
What I'm curious about now is where Kim goes from here in relation to Jimmy. After the first two seasons, I hoped she would eventually wash her hands of all of this and leave town but now I'm not so sure. She seems more than subconsciously aware of Jimmy's nature as a destroyer and possibly even attracted to it.
Still rooting for her but I'm worried.
He replaced Hector's medication with ibuprofen(advil) which can significantly increase the likelihood of stroke.
That's pretty much what I took from it.
What I'm curious about now is where Kim goes from here in relation to Jimmy. After the first two seasons, I hoped she would eventually wash her hands of all of this and leave town but now I'm not so sure. She seems more than subconsciously aware of Jimmy's nature as a destroyer and possibly even attracted to it.
Still rooting for her but I'm worried.
He replaced Hector's medication with ibuprofen(advil) which can significantly increase the likelihood of stroke.
That's pretty much what I took from it.
NullPointer
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Man, this show.
Once they cut back to Chuck that night after the scene with Jimmy's regrets all the alarm bells went off. An innocent moment of taking some pills and checking his journal but my heart already knew.
Also loved their technique for dealing with Kim's lost time, and they properly set it up for its use later in the season.
Great stuff.
Once they cut back to Chuck that night after the scene with Jimmy's regrets all the alarm bells went off. An innocent moment of taking some pills and checking his journal but my heart already knew.
Also loved their technique for dealing with Kim's lost time, and they properly set it up for its use later in the season.
Great stuff.