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[wonderful103]

I'd hedge a solid bet that they announce the MHXX port for the west. If not for a holiday release then an early 2018 release.

I'd probably say after World drops.

I'd say you shouldn't expect that. At all. Capcom's current communication speaks volumes. One of them is in this thread.

That's an extremely bad ratio.

That's what happens when a single publisher carries a system. 450m units of third party software is significant though.

I think it was closer to 2/3 of Wii software being third party rather than 1/2. Don't quote me on that - it's somewhere in Nintendo's financial information. Either way, considering the fact that Nintendo carried the system and third parties were shitting out all kinds of garbage - that's pretty damn good.

 

[disco]

Isn't it a bit too soon to proclaim doom for MHW? It still looks like a solid MH game.

Sure, of course. I am merely going off the common understanding that portable multiplayer is what has driven the franchises' success thus far.

 

[Neoxon]

I'd say you shouldn't expect that. At all. Capcom's current communication speaks volumes. One of them is in this thread.

I know about the GameSpot interview, which Capcom later clarified, but what else are you referring to this this thread?

 

[FLAguy954]

As of now they have no intsrest in supporting the Switch. I feel like that's pretty self explanatory.

Pretty much this.

 

[Gospel]

Iirc, they were funneling all of their resources into making Lost Planet 4 for the Switch

 

[MohitParty]

My guess is maybe install base? Wait till the install base grows than start releasing titles.

 

[wonderful103]

I know about the GameSpot interview, which Capcom later clarified, but what else are you referring to this this thread?

There is a poster in this thread that seems to know things about Capcom which has also mirrored their communication (i.e. MHW is their western MH - don't expect anything else).

Iirc, they were funneling all of their resources into making Lost Planet 4 for the Switch

Citation needed

 

[chicken_pasta]

My guess is maybe install base? Wait till the install base grows than start releasing titles.

3DS launched with Capcom support. Highly doubt install base is the issue here.

 

[Kouriozan]

Sure, of course. I am merely going off the common understanding that portable multiplayer is what has driven the franchises' success thus far.

In Japan.
Capcom is trying to seduce the West with Monster Hunter World, they already know and see that home console gaming isn't as big as handheld in their country.

 

[Effect]

In Japan.
Capcom is trying to seduce the West with Monster Hunter World, they already know and see that home console gaming isn't as big as handheld in their country.

That's why the one piece of hardware that is capable of doing both is ignored. Yup that was a good decision.

 

[DeuceGamer]

Capcom just isn't what they used to be. Their decisions are making it harder and harder to believe they will ever be the type of Developer/Publisher that they used to be. They routinely seem to chase the wrong audience.

It's unfortunate but I think they rely on First Party to help them release most of their big projects and doubt that will change.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

The game was in development for 4 years. When do you think they got dev kits?

Where did I say anything about porting MH:World?

The Switch will get a MH game, but they can't just click a button and have it ready. These things take time.

Where did I say anything about MH on the Switch being a good or bad thing? Pretty sure I said that Capcom should not split the userbase between consoles and portables.

As for why they're moving the franchise to consoles, they've hit their peak with their old market. The 3DS audience is only so big, and while the games were very successful in Japan, they were only moderately so in the West. They are gambling that this move will attract a much larger Western audience. This move won't risk the franchise as a whole, though, because they're going to release a Switch game after to appeal to the Japanese and Western handheld audiences (and in the meantime Japan is getting MHXX, so they're not even ignoring their biggest market). Just because one game is skipping mobile doesn't mean they're abandoning it. They're trying to expand the franchise.

This is a terrible way to expand the franchise and a bad use of resources to boot. My problem isn't MH not being on the Switch because I "want it". My problem are:

1) Capcom releasing different entries of the franchise on different platforms splitting the fanbase and making players have to hop around platforma to play their games.

2) Being inconsistent with the localization of titles causing distrust in the userbase. Really just a big middle finger to their core audience who actually gives enough of a shit to buy their games at all

3) Creating different games for different regions limiting the total reach of each game instead of building one game at a time and expanding its global reach

4) Total lack of transparency about the franchise to the Western userbase. It's fucking dumb that they are not upfront about intentions with the franchise.

5) This may piss people off but I think it's stupid to take a series that only blew up on handhelds and spend 4 years building a version for consoles on the hope that you are going to magically acquire more than 3 million new players world wide on totally new platforms with zero contingency. MH on Switch is not contingency if they fuck this up. They lose a shit ton of money if they dont do well with MH:World.

I said I think they are handling the franchise mad shit. I didn't say they are abandoning anyone.

 

[family_guy]

This Monster Hunter stuff is ridiculous. I'm sure the fans have been playing exclusive 3DS versions of Monster Hunter for the better part of 4 years. God forbid you get a version of it on your Switch a little later than everyone else. Calm down.

 

[Neoxon]

That's why ignoring the one piece of hardware that is capable of doing both is ignored. Yup that was a good decision.

Didn't the 4chan leak also mention a more traditional MH for Switch? One of the guys who alluded towards MHW even outright mentioned it.

I don't think they will come around and localize this. By the time World is out development on a new MH from the XX team will probably have started. I think it's far more likely they'd focus on localizing that to keep the series going with worldwide launches than look backwards and localize XX.

It's already started. Capcom's Monster Hunter teams are really stretched right now.

If this doesn't pan out & Ace Attorney 7 avoids the Switch, then I'll jump on the doom train.

 

[ohlawd]

They'd go out of business.

for going all in on Switch or 3DS? man, I just wanna see announcements go like XYZ for Switch or for 3DS or for any combination of PS4/XB1/Switch/3DS/PC

nvm you were commenting about the PS4 dev part lol. yeh all in on PS4 is dumb af. small time pubs are hopfully making that switch to Switch.

 

[MohitParty]

3DS launched with Capcom support. Highly doubt install base is the issue here.

Yes but I imagine launch 3DS games didn't give them the numbers they wanted. Plus with the Wii U failure they were probably a bit hesitate before the console launched.

 

[Niceguydan8]

Really weird what Capcom does with the franchise though. Starts on PS2, blows up in Japan on PSP, goes to 3DS exclusively, back to current gen, but not on Switch. They really need to make up their minds.

It's really not that weird. They probably followed the install base and $$.

 

[Papacheeks]

Capcom just isn't what they used to be. Their decisions are making it harder and harder to believe they will ever be the type of Developer/Publisher that they used to be. They routinely seem to chase the wrong audience.

It's unfortunate but I think they rely on First Party to help them release most of their big projects and doubt that will change.

So if they chased the wrong audience then i guess Resident Evil 7 wasn't good?

Though it had a rough launch Street fighter V was really good, just didn't have content when it launched.

I think Monster hunter World will do well.

Also Capcom bringing games like Dragon's Dogma Arisen to PC is great. Resident evil revelations 1 and 2 were great. They just happen to make dumb shit like a PC shooter set in the resident evil universe called Umbrella corps.

For every Resident evil 7 we get, we get something dumb like Umbrella corps, or no content on street fighter v's launch and weird decisions on how it evolves. Weird design decisions on MVC infinite.

They are not perfect and I will agree are a shadow of their glory years. But it's not like they are putting out shit.

 

[Soul of the Beast]

From a Japanese businessman point of view, the Switch market is big, but the PS4 market is much bigger and has even more potential.

My guess is, with limited resources, Capcom choose to side with Sony.

The latest mainline Monster Hunter game (Monster Hunter: World) is already coming to PS4/XBO/PC while the Switch is only getting a port of a 3DS game (MH:XX), which is a MH spin-off.
If the next mainline Monster Hunter is still the same and MH:World never releases on the Switch, then I can safely say that I am not entirely wrong about this.

Not saying Capcom is done with the Switch, of coursse not, it's just that they are probably putting their focus on PS4 more.

 

[Calm Mind]

Nintendo should not localize MHXX.

 

[Neonep]

I'm willing to bet that within the next 18 months, Capcom will announce at least 2 games for the Switch.

 

[Mr Swine]

Hey Capcom, make a sequel to Resident Evil The Mercenaries 3D for Switch and I'll buy it faster than you can say "take my money!"

 

[wonderful103]

From a Japanese businessman point of view, the Switch market is big, but the PS4 market is much bigger and has even more potential.

My guess is, with limited resources, Capcom choose to side with Sony.

The latest mainline Monster Hunter game (Monster Hunter: World) is already coming to PS4/XBO/PC while the Switch is only getting a port of a 3DS game (MH:XX), which is a MH spin-off.
If the next mainline Monster Hunter is still the same and MH:World never releases on the Switch, then I can safely say that I am not entirely wrong about this.

Not saying Capcom is done with the Switch, of coursse not, it's just that they are probably putting their focus on PS4 more.

The PS4 isn't doing well in Japan. Capcom is chasing/focusing on the west here. Which, for monster hunter, isn't the smartest decision they could make. Good thing that switch might get another spin off series in late 2019? (Lol)

 

[HotHamBoy]

The PS4 isn't doing well in Japan. Capcom is chasing/focusing on the west here. Which, for monster hunter, isn't the smartest decision they could make. Good thing that switch might get another spin off series in late 2019? (Lol)

I feel like PS4 is pacing the PS3 in Japan, is it not? It's about 50% of sold units behind and it's been around half as long.

 

[GameCenterXDS]

I feel like PS4 is pacing the PS3 in Japan, is it not? It's about 50% of sold units behind and it's been around half as long.

Yeah the ps4 is actually not doing bad at all in japan when you consider all the factors and how differnt japan market is to the west. With the price coming down and MH world hitting soon, I feel like we have not seen the real big take-off of the ps4 in japan.

 

[DeuceGamer]

So if they chased the wrong audience then i guess Resident Evil 7 wasn't good?

Though it had a rough launch Street fighter V was really good, just didn't have content when it launched.

I think Monster hunter World will do well.

Also Capcom bringing games like Dragon's Dogma Arisen to PC is great. Resident evil revelations 1 and 2 were great. They just happen to make dumb shit like a PC shooter set in the resident evil universe called Umbrella corps.

For every Resident evil 7 we get, we get something dumb like Umbrella corps, or no content on street fighter v's launch and weird decisions on how it evolves. Weird design decisions on MVC infinite.

They are not perfect and I will agree are a shadow of their glory years. But it's not like they are putting out shit.

Never said everything they release is shit.

About chasing the wrong audience, they spent tons chasing the mobile audience from my understanding. They largely missed out on capitalizing on the Wii crowd by releasing railshooters when most expected a traditional RE after RE4 done well. Chasing the Western audience with MHW is understandable, but not localizing MHXX seems like a misstep to me.

In the end it's not just chasing the wrong audience, it's just poor decisions all around. They are a shell of their former self and unless someone comes along and buys them, or their is some major changes, I can't see them returning to what they once were.

 

[HotHamBoy]

Yeah the ps4 is actually not doing bad at all in japan when you consider all the factors and how differnt japan market is to the west. With the price coming down and MH world hitting soon, I feel like we have not seen the real big take-off of the ps4 in japan.

Numbers are up from last year thanks to games like FFXV. As the price comes down and more Japan-centric titles release I think it will continue a steady growth.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I've seen the responses to my last post and I'll just re-iterate, this thread should just be renamed "So, Capcom and videogames: what's going on exactly?". The same arguments here can also be put forward to PS4 and XB1.

Capcom Japan's first original title this generation was Street Fighter V, a game that came out nearly 2 and a half years after the new systems launched. Since then we've had Resident Evil VII + a shit tonne of ports of their old games, with Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen being the latest announcement. Save for those we know that MvC: Infinite and Monster Hunter World are coming soon.

Deep Down and their new Phanta Rei engine are nowhere to be seen either, 4 years since being revealed publicly.

There's nothing going on with Capcom regards to the Switch other than the same thing that happened with PS4 and XB1. They're clearly finding it hard to find the resource to make new titles, throw Switch into the mix and it's going to make it even more difficult for them.

I'm sure the Switch games will come, but y'all should temper your expectations a lil bit I think, especially when Switch isn't even 4 months old yet. It sucks, but unfortunately it's not an issue that's exclusive to the Switch by any means.

 

[Neoxon]

I've seen the responses to my last post and I'll just re-iterate, this thread should just be renamed "So, Capcom and videogames: what's going on exactly?". The same arguments here can also be put forward to PS4 and XB1.

Capcom Japan's first original title this generation was Street Fighter V, a game that came out nearly 2 and a half years after the new systems launched. Since then we've had Resident Evil VII + a shit tonne of ports of their old games, with Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen being the latest announcement. Save for those we know that MvC: Infinite and Monster Hunter World are coming soon.

Deep Down and their new Phanta Rei engine are nowhere to be seen either, 4 years since being revealed publicly.

There's nothing going on with Capcom regards to the Switch other than the same thing that happened with PS4 and XB1. They're clearly finding it hard to find the resource to make new titles, throw Switch into the mix and it's going to make it even more difficult for them.

I'm sure the Switch games will come, but y'all should temper your expectations a lil bit I think, especially when Switch isn't even 4 months old yet. It sucks, but unfortunately it's not an issue that's exclusive to the Switch by any means.

This, this right here. You basically hit the nail on the head, though I believe one of the mods pointed out that it's more of Capcom playing things too safe for their own good rather than them being broke.

 

[schuelma]

Yeah the ps4 is actually not doing bad at all in japan when you consider all the factors and how differnt japan market is to the west. With the price coming down and MH world hitting soon, I feel like we have not seen the real big take-off of the ps4 in japan.

No, its really not doing very well.

 

[DeuceGamer]

I've seen the responses to my last post and I'll just re-iterate, this thread should just be renamed "So, Capcom and videogames: what's going on exactly?". The same arguments here can also be put forward to PS4 and XB1.

Capcom Japan's first original title this generation was Street Fighter V, a game that came out nearly 2 and a half years after the new systems launched. Since then we've had Resident Evil VII + a shit tonne of ports of their old games, with Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen being the latest announcement. Save for those we know that MvC: Infinite and Monster Hunter World are coming soon.

Deep Down and their new Phanta Rei engine are nowhere to be seen either, 4 years since being revealed publicly.

There's nothing going on with Capcom regards to the Switch other than the same thing that happened with PS4 and XB1. They're clearly finding it hard to find the resource to make new titles, throw Switch into the mix and it's going to make it even more difficult for them.

I'm sure the Switch games will come, but y'all should temper your expectations a lil bit I think, especially when Switch isn't even 4 months old yet. It sucks, but unfortunately it's not an issue that's exclusive to the Switch by any means.

I can agree with a lot of this. They just aren't able to get many projects out the door these days regardless of platform.

How large is Capcom now?

 

[Vena]

I feel like PS4 is pacing the PS3 in Japan, is it not? It's about 50% of sold units behind and it's been around half as long.

What? PS4 is doing worse than the PS3 because the PS3 didn't take off until later in life due to being much more expensive and facing stiff competition. The PS4 is only just barely ahead of the PS3 now and is about to fall behind as the PS3 actually hits it's price drop/Slim and FFXIII.

And the PS3 was second fiddle to the Wii. There is no Wii now.

In no capacity is the PS4 doing *well* in Japan.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

I feel like PS4 is pacing the PS3 in Japan, is it not? It's about 50% of sold units behind and it's been around half as long.

PS4 being inline with PS4 is awful. PS3 had an incredibly bad first few years in Japan. PS4 bout to fall way the fuck behind.

Yeah the ps4 is actually not doing bad at all in japan when you consider all the factors and how differnt japan market is to the west. With the price coming down and MH world hitting soon, I feel like we have not seen the real big take-off of the ps4 in japan.

Its doing pretty badly and had burned through most major titles while only keeping in line with the PS3. It has no chance for a take off lol.

Numbers are up from last year thanks to games like FFXV. As the price comes down and more Japan-centric titles release I think it will continue a steady growth.

Nope.

No, its really not doing very well.

What? PS4 is doing worse than the PS3 because the PS3 didn't take off until later in life due to being much more expensive and facing stiff competition. The PS4 is only just barely ahead of the PS3 now and is about to fall behind as the PS3 actually hits it's price drop/Slim and FFXIII.

And the PS3 was second fiddle to the Wii. There is no Wii now.

In no capacity is the PS4 doing *well* in Japan.

Well its easy to see who follows Japan at least

 

[Worthintendo]

Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 not being announced for the Switch is the real big teller that things have gone sour with Nintendo and Capcom.

I kinda get the reasoning's with Monster Hunter, want to build the series in the West, don't want to have 2 similar games out around the same time and worry about confusing people. I do think its stupid cause a "Why Not Both" situation would help all parties, but I can see their reasoning behind it.

I also kinda get the Disney Collection not coming, I'm sure the deal they made with Disney was only for the PS4/XONE/PC versions of the game, if they want it to be on other systems then they need to make a new deal with Disney.

But there is no reason for them to not bring Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 to the Switch, that system makes more sense then any others for a Mega Man related game, it was announced after people made a thing about the Disney collection not coming to the Switch. Despite all of this its not been announced for the Switch.

 

[me0wish]

There were times that I couldn't wait to see Nintendo Vs Capcom, now I worry that it will actually happen.

It's really sad considering that most of gamecube games were Capcom games.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Sure, of course. I am merely going off the common understanding that portable multiplayer is what has driven the franchises' success thus far.

yeah....

in Japan... where they will still be making and releasing portable versions

are people tone deaf to the hype MHW is building?

 

[Nocturno999]

 

[polyh3dron]

We failed their test by not buying enough copies of USF2 aka SF2 HD Remix Repackaged for $40.

So sorry, Capcom.

 

[SeppOCE]

I mean capcom JP is supporting it just fine. It's the western decision which, as usual, is being weird.

 

[goldenpp72]

Their dismissal of the system has made me consider boycotting them in general, simply because in many instances the games would be best played on the damn thing (MMLC2 and Disney compilation as example)

If Capcom refuses to give me the logical, simple options they should, I may just stop bothering with them entirely, it would be the first time I ever did so but I guess it's easy when they have lost 90 percent of their relevance anyways.

 

[zashga]

It's difficult to ascribe motives to Capcom due to their incompetence. Ask again next year and we'll see what else (if anything) they announce for Switch. Right now it's looking pretty dire, which is sad; they were great on 3DS.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Only thing I can say is if MHW doesn't work out like Capcom hopes, heads are going to roll at Capcom. Shareholders are already antsy after the failure of street fighter and dead rising. MH has been the only franchise giving them decent profit margins since the PSP days.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Only thing I can say is if MHW doesn't work out like Capcom hopes, heads are going to roll at Capcom. Shareholders are already antsy after the failure of street fighter and dead rising. MH has been the only franchise giving them decent profit margins since the PSP days.

Dont worry, MHW will do great, even in Japan.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Dont worry, MHW will do great, even in Japan.

It'll need to at least match total MH4G sales to be sucessful which means tripling the western sales if we're being optimistic with Japanese sales(1m in Japan). Otherwise, they increased the budget to lose sales.

Technically, it'll need to do more than that as even with same sales in total more sales coming from outside of Japan means Capcom HQ gets less of the revenue.

 

[Platy]

Capcom is taking lessons from Nintendo on "nobody knows what they are thinking"

Launching street fighter focusing on the clearly small amount of players and then doing stuff those players don't like, whatever happened to marvel vs capcom budget, the monster hunter thing, selling sf2 at basically full price, avoiding porting a NES PORT COMPILATION to the nintendo console...

But then again if I was owning capcom I would have released a non traditional fighting game a long time ago because .... well have you seen arms numbers ? =P
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Spoiler

I usualy compare smash bros numbers to SF5 but always come a person to say "but famous characters". I hope arms avoids this

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Didn't the 4chan leak also mention a more traditional MH for Switch? One of the guys who alluded towards MHW even outright mentioned it.

If this doesn't pan out & Ace Attorney 7 avoids the Switch, then I'll jump on the doom train.

The Capcom doom train? It already left buddy, and it crashed with RE7, burned with SFV and now MvsC and MHW will set the full explosion. All I see is fireworks!

But if you are talking about the Switch doom train, you still have time, like 4-5 years time!

Switch doesn't need Capcom to succeed.

 

[BitStyle]

Capcom is taking lessons from Nintendo on "nobody knows what they are thinking"

Launching street fighter focusing on the clearly small amount of players and then doing stuff those players don't like, whatever happened to marvel vs capcom budget, the monster hunter thing, selling sf2 at basically full price, avoiding porting a NES PORT COMPILATION to the nintendo console...

But then again if I was owning capcom I would have released a non traditional fighting game a long time ago because .... well have you seen arms numbers ? =P
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Spoiler

I usualy compare smash bros numbers to SF5 but always come a person to say "but famous characters". I hope arms avoids this

Power Stone's triumphant return!

Spoiler

It'll never happen...

 

[dracula_x]

What? PS4 is doing worse than the PS3 because the PS3 didn't take off until later in life due to being much more expensive and facing stiff competition. The PS4 is only just barely ahead of the PS3 now and is about to fall behind as the PS3 actually hits it's price drop/Slim and FFXIII.

And the PS3 was second fiddle to the Wii. There is no Wii now.

In no capacity is the PS4 doing *well* in Japan.

For a few weeks maybe, but then... good luck with that prediction. With upcoming DQXI, MHW and FFVII: Remake it will be ahead of the PS3 again.

Also, I'm pretty sure, there will be another price drop for PS4 too.

edit: and btw

 

[Champion]

MH is gone so at this point I'm just praying for an Ace Attorney game for Switch(with a fan translation of course ;_; ) and Ghost Trick 2.

Mega Man is also on the wish list but we already know how that's going to go down.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

MH is gone in the West so at this point I'm just praying for an Ace Attorney game for Switch(with a fan translation of course ;_; ) and Ghost Trick 2.

Mega Man is also on the wish list but we already know how that's going to go down.

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