lastplayed
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Doran was such a waste. I can't believe they wasted someone like Alexander Siddig on him.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Doran was such a waste. I can't believe they wasted someone like Alexander Siddig on him.
The Artisan
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The sandsnakes barely ever mention Elia Martell. Oberyn was never this bloodthirsty. Would he have wanted Elaria to kill Myrcella? And then his brother? And his nephew?
The Artisan
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The character was nice, for however long he lasted. Blame the writers for ruining Dorne.
edit: sorry for double post
I'm pretty sure he would have wanted revenge against the people that killed Doran and Trystane.
Yeah. I kinda meant by proxy since Oberyn wanted that revenge.
He was planned to have more screentime, but everyone hated Dorne.
LegendofDragoonLives
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brehs, did a 3min illus villains piece on GOT. Got lucky to include Euron during sketch stage a few weeks back, since he could have been a throwaway character lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8FDBjjiOSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8FDBjjiOSc
The Artisan
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I only ever really hated the girls from Dorne, and their killing of the prince and prince-son only made me hate them more. Doran never seemed like a bad guy.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
That's the point. Dany had an army of dothraki in the first season and was ready to head to Westeros once she acquired some ships. Then Khal Drogo, fiercest of warriors gets wounded and gets sepsis for christs sake. Euron leaps onto a ship, gets wounded multiple times by warriors who poison their weapons and .... Well we will see, but the chances of dying from sepsis, 0%. Ramsey taking on multiple armored men while stripped to the waist - fine. Dragon surrounded by guys with pointy sticks, wounded and has to flee.
Its easy to say Robb and Ned fucked up because the show punished them for it. Euron showed up and immediately murdered the king. That's a pretty big fuck-up and if it was a 'hero' they would have been hung the next episode. Instead he is made King. He then brings his entire fleet to Kings Landing bringing it in the range of dragons. A 'hero' does that, spies would spot it and the dragons would burn the entire thing to ashes.
Euron's story if he was a hero would have us rolling our eyes at how cliched and trite it was.
Missandei's actress is absolutely stunning, but that scene went on needlessly long. Particularly as it was largely needless in the first place. Seemed more of just a reminder that they haven't forgotten about throwing in some T&A.
Euron is a late addition and so hasn't been sufficiently developed. His character seems quite shallow, and that isn't helped by the magic replacement fleet.
The show writers definitely aren't up to carrying on the writing of the books, and it shows.
The spectacles of the show are still fun to watch at least. Waiting for the white walkers to kill everyone.
Euron is a late addition and so hasn't been sufficiently developed. His character seems quite shallow, and that isn't helped by the magic replacement fleet.
The show writers definitely aren't up to carrying on the writing of the books, and it shows.
The spectacles of the show are still fun to watch at least. Waiting for the white walkers to kill everyone.
The Artisan
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i'd rather have a scene with bran & meera or the brotherhood
Indira Varma was also a lot better as Niobe in Rome. Her character in GOT just sucks so much.
The Artisan
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how different would everyone's reaction of her be if she declared war on the Lannisters/crown while holding Myrcella as a ward prisoner like the Starks did with Theon
instead of poisoning her to death
I feel like they missed an opportunity to properly develop her character in season 4. Too much time spent hanging out with Oberyn in the brothel. When they did finally start to expand on Dorne and the sand snakes in season 5, it all felt so rushed.
The Artisan
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yeah and I don't know what sort of mood they were trying to set with them, either. one of their introductory scenes was throwing a spear at a man's head whose body was otherwise buried in the sand.
i'm not fond of Euron either but he also hasn't had many seasons of development; his introductory scene was killing his own brother and last week's episode, the actor's portrayal of him made him a fitting psycho. his laugh when his hook landed on his niece's ship was entertaining.
Vincent Alexander
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I love Varys. Everything he threw back in Dany's face about being loyal to the people was so good. Easily my favorite moment of his throughout the whole show.
Vincent Alexander
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I think it was a great idea on paper. Just WAY too long. The only thing I thought was dumb was Euron finding the exact boat he needed to in a billion. I've heard the BS reasons how...it is still dumb.
darkwing-buck
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Fo'real, that actor deserved so much better.
Ocarina_117
Banned
He killed the mad king for threatening to use wild fire on the city.
Cersei used wild fire on the city.
The show writers keep hinting that they'll further Jaimies character arc and have him actually move on from Cersei but never follow through.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
She was actually great until Season 5. The writing fell off
Vincent Alexander
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Not that it matters too heavily, but Jaime killed the mad king because he ordered Jaime to kill his own father, basically. Or am I mis-remembering? I thought that was the piece that put him over.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Yupe, just felt weird. It dawned on me during the ship sequence too. It felt a little 'disjointed' maybe? Weird editing. Scenes ending randomly.
Oh and that 'mama! Mama!' scenes wad pure cringe, so was the seduction scene between Yara and Elliara. Though they did save the best looking sand snake, so.
Ocarina_117
Banned
She's the polar opposite of what her character is supposed to be at this point.
I'm just waiting for all the sand snakes and dorne characters to be killed off. That part of the show seemed to be D&D reacting to Oberyn's popularity but dropping the ball completely.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
you ever wonder how greyworm got his name
what is a grey worm anyway?
it's like a worm,
but grey.
oh.
what is a grey worm anyway?
it's like a worm,
but grey.
oh.
How fucking dumb do you have to be after seven seasons to still be talking about the books in these threads?
Ocarina_117
Banned
In the bath scene with Briene (amazing scene and probably his best in the show) he seems to suggest he was pushed over the edge by the mad king threatening to burn kings landing.
He actually kills the Mad kings hand at the time first (who was a pyromancer).
I felt the look Jaimie gave Cersei at the end of season 6 displayed that he'd finally seen enough. Guess I was wrong.
SerAardvark
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In addition to burning the city, Aerys had also told him to kill his own father and bring him his head. And the circumstances this time around are also different because it's his sister doing the burning and he has no one else to turn to, really. It's a lot easier to turn on the Mad King who also wants your father dead than it is the only woman you've ever loved.
It's not like he looks happy with Cersei this season, either.
The Artisan
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I think Nymeria was really pretty too
Ocarina_117
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With regards to Jaimie in the first four seasons of the show. It was seemingly set up for a redemption arc, we saw who he really was beneath the arrogance displayed in season one has his character was broken (literally) on his journey with Brienne. But on his return to kings landing it really doesn't go anywhere? He had some fantastic scenes with tyrion in season 4, awful scenes in dorne season 5, but in season 6 they seemed to hint at another redemption arc again?
I'm really hoping and thinking they woll follow through with it at some point this season but it's been messily handled to say the least.
I'm really hoping and thinking they woll follow through with it at some point this season but it's been messily handled to say the least.
Not entirely accurate. It seems the real reason isn't that "everyone" hated Dorne, just the showrunners themselves. Apparently they have expressed as much in the commentary tracks, and said they hated writing Dorne and found it hard. I guess it shows.
Not entirely accurate. It seems the real reason isn't that "everyone" hated Dorne, just the showrunners themselves. Apparently they have expressed as much in the commentary tracks, and said they hated writing Dorne and found it hard. I guess it shows.
Ah. Figured it was fan reaction.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Not entirely accurate. It seems the real reason isn't that "everyone" hated Dorne, just the showrunners themselves. Apparently they have expressed as much in the commentary tracks, and said they hated writing Dorne and found it hard. I guess it shows.
Did they also find writing Stannis hard?
Rest in peace my one true king
miller.skippins
Banned
i love boobs and all and the Missandei address is really beautiful but do we really need to spend so much precious time on Greyworm and Missandei's sex scene? This season is already cut short with so many plotline to cover and finish and they decide to linger on this.
Same thing with the Sam operating on Jorah scene. Do we really need these?
They should really just focus on Winterfell, The Wall, King's Landing, Danny's march towards Kind's Landing with the occasional updates about Arya quest for assassination, Sam's new discovery of the White walkers in the Citadel.
We don't have much time (and episodes) left till the big finale so please HBO....i don't need more boobies scenes. I can get that in a porno.
Same thing with the Sam operating on Jorah scene. Do we really need these?
They should really just focus on Winterfell, The Wall, King's Landing, Danny's march towards Kind's Landing with the occasional updates about Arya quest for assassination, Sam's new discovery of the White walkers in the Citadel.
We don't have much time (and episodes) left till the big finale so please HBO....i don't need more boobies scenes. I can get that in a porno.
Did they also find writing Stannis hard?
Rest in peace my one true king
I think I remember one of the showrunners saying they didn't like Stannis.
SolidChamp
Banned
Euron is the biggest dick in the world for:
A. Interrupting Yara and Ellaria's action.
B. Killing Yara...one of my favorite characters.
Wait, is Yara dead?
A. Interrupting Yara and Ellaria's action.
B. Killing Yara...one of my favorite characters.
Wait, is Yara dead?
Yara's still alive.
Bet they hated Barristan too. Maybe he was holding Dany back! :/
lastplayed
Member
Who the hell do they like??
Supposed to be based on what? How her character is in some sort of book, perhaps?
It's not a book, but maybe you could try reading the OP of this thread and/or fucking off to add to your massive post count in the other GoT thread that's designed specifically for people like you.
miller.skippins
Banned
i don't anyone that's a 'fan' of stannis too...
Sansa (such a brave young woman!), Dany (another strong female leader!), Jon Snow (what a heroic underdog!), and Tyrion (smartest dwarf ever amirite) probably.
He's just looking for attention. If he wanted to know what people thought of the two most recent episodes he could look here.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/epdate
BreezyLimbo
Banned
sansa brave?
She's just a passive punk who had the chance to get out of kings landing with hound but she was 'muh queenship' and then she goes and gets traded around by different men like cattle and she keeps thinking she's doing the right thing but she's not.
Even now at a time where she should be standing by Jon and supporting him because the North can still be lost, she's there being a child and challenging him.
Ocarina_117
Banned
I feel the first half of this post echoes a lot of D&D's comments to eachother whilst writing season 5 onwards.
It was one sentence of my post dude, calm down. I'm not clogging up this thread with endless posts comparing the two. No need to police the thread.
The first post you cried about was also just a sentence critiquing the writing of the show.
Chill dude.
LukasTaves
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Someone pointed to me that scene is actually a payout to a scene in S1. Ned says Arya will marry and have many kids, and Arya responds that's not her.
Likewise, the it's not you Arya says, means that Nymeria wasn't made to be tamed.
The polar opposite of the intelligent wiser and older woman she was introduced as on the show who actually knew how to manipulate people and acted as both a trusted advisor to the ruler of Dorne and an intermediary between the prince and Oberyn's daughters.
Maybe when engaging with people about a television drama featuring tits and dragons, you could consider being a more well adjusted individual rather than an angry and rude person who goes off the rails over nothing at all? Just a thought.
Or the direwolf caught on and realized hanging with a Stark is an invitation to an early grave.
I know that people love this show because it doesn't pull any stops when it comes to sex, violence and gore, but the operation scene was just plain disgusting and didn't add anything to the story, it was unnecessarily graphical for no reason whatsoever other than to add shock value and to justify being on HBO. Just my opinion, don't kill me please.
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