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Andy Rubin (Android co-founder) launches "modular" Essential phone (no 3.5mm jack)

FyreWulff

Member
Hold up, so on top of no headphone jack the phone isn't even waterproof? ... I thought that was like the entire point of getting rid of the thing.

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Mr.Shrugglesツ;238673967 said:
No? It's to make room for internal configuration.

There's been tons of phones with 3.5mm jacks that are waterproof.

Oh, I thought I heard the headphone jack was an issue when it came to waterproofing. Still crazy it doesn't have it at such a premium price.
 
Hold up, so on top of no headphone jack the phone isn't even waterproof? ... I thought that was like the entire point of getting rid of the thing.

Sony and Kyocera and Samsung and LG and surely others make water resistant phones with a 3.5mm headphone jack.

removing the jack makes it easier and less expensive to waterproof though.
 
I think the phone looks really neat. That Ocean Depths color looks sexy. I hope it does well. Wait for reviews and for people to get hands on with the device to be cautious of issues.
 

Gallbaro

Banned
He mentioned something about wireless RF. Everyone in the Android OT knows where I'm headed next. Does the possibility exist for wireless RF to be used to control appliances?

This phone looks like a skinny G6 with Mi6 camera placement.

I am having a damn hard time getting over them bastardizing the display. For $700 I want a full display but maybe I'll get used to this in time.

Wireless RF?!?!?!?!

They is clearly an upgrade over antiquated wireless and dirty radio frequencies.

Lol I can hear the marketers furiously masterbating from here.
 
This is going to fail, don't see what the differentiator is in a world filled with Samsung, Apple and Google phones. The modular design is incredibly gimmicky to me.

Google will buy Essential and Rubin will be back with Google.
 

Akira

Member
https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/30/15717066/essential-phone-hands-on-photos-android-hardware

hardware impressions.

so its wide phone while everyone else is going tall. Squarish design. Basically what I assume sony will move to... if they tried.

Sony will have a design with thick bezels at the top and bottom AND will out months later than phones announced after it. And the Xperia fans will proclaim it as the superior choice. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is moving to bezel-less phones.
 

Melon Husk

Member
Interesting evolution of Google Ara, but no speaker grille and no USB-C would have been a braver design. I'm still waiting for a cable-free experience and I don't care if the charger's proprietary.
 

Ghazi

Member
So iVerge can't tell the difference between a square and a rectangle? It looks nothing squarish at all.

Damn nice looking phone though.
When they say squarish, they're referring to the contours of the phone. Samsung has a curved style to their latest flagship and the Essential has sharp edges.
 

Koppai

Member
Sorry to bump this thread but it seems Amazon and Best Buy are their retail partners, and that for carrier version will be exclusive to Sprint.

There are pages up for the Black & White models on Best Buy. They are unlocked and will work on pretty much all networks.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/essenti...e-unlocked-black-moon/5973000.p?skuId=5973000

I am actually slightly interested in this phone, especially if the Note 8 is going to be $1k. <_<;

They are suppose to announce the new release date in a few days, and I know I am set to put one on display soon enough :)
 

snap

Banned
This thread hasn't gotten much love but in the context of the Pixel 2 being what it is I think this phone should probably get a second look from those who previously wrote it off.

Here's a recap of what's happened since the announcement:

  • Essential Phone is announced by making the website live. No press get hands-on, not even a sizzle reel of the device.
  • Andy Rubin shows off the device quickly in an interview. Makes the case for dropping the 3.5mm jack--wired standards like the jack can eventually become worthless if a new wired standard of a different shape subsumes them, hence why the mods use wireless USB and only send power through the pins. Off-handedly remarks that they wouldn't have revealed it if they weren't ready to ship within 30 days.
  • A The Verge reporter catches up to Rubin after the interview and gets a quick hands-on.
  • An Essential exec posts two photos taken with the phone on Twitter. They look awful and the Twitter post is deleted quickly.
  • Essential announces that Sprint will be a carrier partner in the US. (Note: this is like Verzion being the carrier partner for Pixel. The unlocked version still works fine on all carriers.)
  • A few photos of the device end up on Twitter, including pictures of a prototype being used by an Essential employee on public transit. Several of these photos show a version with white front bezel, which the company claims is a prototype color they're not bring to consumers.
  • Andy Rubin's 30 day promise gets passed, the phone is still not close to coming out.
  • An Essential engineer writes a blog post about the work done on the camera to make it provide good photos, and pointedly mentions the improvements made over time (sort of a late damage control for the poor photos made by the phone posted online).
  • The phone shows up on Best Buy.
  • It is revealed that Amazon has invested in Essential and will also be selling the phone.
  • An Essential exec promises updates "soon" and a release in the coming weeks.
  • Andy Rubin shares pictures of Essential phones being manufactured, promises details within a week.
  • Emails go out to reservations either asking them to finalize their preorder for the black Essential phone or telling them the white Essential phone is still a few weeks out.
  • Andy Rubin makes a post today (August 17th, 2017) that the phones are now officially for sale.
I have a white Essential phone reserved even though my HTC 10 is still chugging along quite fine. I'm a bit torn whether to get this phone--I find it incredibly enthralling for quite a few reasons but the $700 pricepoint is a bit severe.
 

Futureman

Member
This thread hasn't gotten much love but in the context of the Pixel 2 being what it is I think this phone should probably get a second look from those who previously wrote it off.

and what would that be? I just saw a rumor that the larger Pixel 2 is going to be very similar looking to the S8.
 

snap

Banned
and what would that be? I just saw a rumor that the larger Pixel 2 is going to be very similar looking to the S8.

The larger Pixel 2 is going to be fine.

It's the smaller Pixel 2 that still has massive bezels and doesn't have a headphone jack to boot. The Essential Phone, being roughly the size of the smaller Pixel, seems like a good replacement for those who were hoping for less bezels.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Software guys can be pretty dumb about hardware.

Just look at Google themselves.

and what would that be? I just saw a rumor that the larger Pixel 2 is going to be very similar looking to the S8.

It doesn't have a headphone jack

Not waterproof

Smaller version has a normal aspect ratio

No dual cameras

No wireless charging

Dumb squeeze gimmick

Huge bezels on the smaller version.

Same price as the last Pixel.
 

Futureman

Member
I thought Pixel 1 was rated as one of the best cameras on a phone? or does the dual lens thing matter for some other reason?
 

snap

Banned
Oh, forgot to mention, they're also holding events on the 18th and 25th in the Bay Area and NYC, respectively, for people to get hands on. Some pictures of the packaging:


These seem to be of the white unit, which is still a few weeks out.
 

snap

Banned
Wait did they just copy an HTC phone again?

Well, a. the smaller one is straight up made by HTC and b. probably, the FCC docs leaked a "squeeze to launch Assistant" option in settings.

I don't get the point of it, just put in a button like the Bixby button. Seems way more useful than making the user squeeze the phone and would take less space.
 

Jeffrey

Member
Price is just too expensive to justify for a new company product.

Should have did what oneplus did. Start cheap to build a brand. Then increase price over time.
 
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