balladofwindfishes
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They had to do it that way.
If they didn't, No Guard, Fissure, Machamp would have been something that existed and was technically legal.
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Pokemon Gold/Silver for 3DS VC
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If they didn't, No Guard, Fissure, Machamp would have been something that existed and was technically legal.
Mechanized
Member
The install base will never be there if they don't make an effort.
Welllll, theres the map and the soundtracks (more subjective) at least
Paltheos
Member
I'm really hoping this is like RBY VC, where transferred pokemon come with their hidden abilities (which is something I haven't see anyone talk about in this thread). An easy way to get Regenerator Ho-oh and Multiscale Lugia is ok with me!
I have to look into if there's a way to manipulate the game code like in RBY to change your pokemon's stats. I'd love to shinify my pokemon before transferring to Sun/Moon. :3
Kinda useless considering there is no way to control the nature.
balladofwindfishes
Member
It's based on the current EXP. It's actually the easiest way to get a specific nature in the series, since it's just doing random level 2 Pidgey fights until the number hits what you want.
While the announcement of this is cool to hear, it does make me a bit wary that they don't have Crystal (seeing how Yellow was alongside Red and Blue when they released).
As far as the Pokemon Bank compatibility goes with gen7, I wonder if this also means we're getting Alolan forms for Johto pokemon in Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon (seeing how transferring from RBY was how you got the native versions of certain pokemon from Kanto)?
As far as the Pokemon Bank compatibility goes with gen7, I wonder if this also means we're getting Alolan forms for Johto pokemon in Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon (seeing how transferring from RBY was how you got the native versions of certain pokemon from Kanto)?
I really didn't like Gen V. I found the linear progression around the map to be very dull. I thought the story was terrible, and while Sun & Moon have taken intrusive story elements getting in the way of the adventure to a whole new level - it was still way too prominent. It felt like entering every route triggered some sort of conversation at times.
Most of all - I just didn't really like many of the new Pokemon designs. I couldn't even find six Pokemon I liked before facing off against the league, and and all these years later there's still only three or four from that generation that I like. Thankfully Gen VI was like night and day for me and I loved almost the entire dex which re-ignited my passion for the franchise...but the pendulum has swung yet again and the Gen VII dex is even worse lol.
Wait you thought the story in Gen V was bad and intrusive and the pokemon designs awful but you liked gen VI that much?
That's... something.
Okami Haundo
Member
Oh dang, I didn't even realize that at first. I wonder why Crystal is absent?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Japanese cell phone features
Preach it brother
Kid me will never forget getting back to kanto with an overleveled team and wiping the floor with all the scrubs that dared to cause me trouble back in gen 1
And then Red wiped the floor with me
balladofwindfishes
Member
If people think Gen 2 is dated... Gen 3 is ehhh...
Gen 3 is a rough generation since it's missing basically the entire second gen, it's right before the Special/Physical split (and it's incredibly obvious they wanted to do this since there's a ton of special type physical attackers and vice versa), there's soooo much surfing, and the GBA music is low quality, but not really retro chiptune charming that Gen I and II have.
Other than maybe the battle sprites (which sometimes have Gen 1 style off brand jankiness to them) the graphics are very washed out and the overworld is at an odd angle (FRLG fixed all the graphics issues of RS, then E brought them all back for whatever reason). Breeding is a mess until Emerald.
It's an awkward transitional generation between "Modern" Pokemon of Gen IV onward, and the "Classic" Pokemon games. It desperately wants to be more, but at the same time it's dealing with being a hard reboot of the series (the only in its history), missing huge chunks of fan favorites (no Eevee? no Scyther? no Gengar? Gen II representation is Girafarig and Xatu?), it's dealing with redoing the entire stat system, abilities and double battles. No run button until FRLG, so getting around is painful. Breeding is gross, no Ditto, no way to control inheritance, it's 100% RNG. Got a male one-off? Whelp. Also hope you like lots of resetting on Pokemon Coliseum for females! Obviously FRLG fixed this issue, but for a few years it was really bad...
It adds a lot to the series, but at the same time feels like a step back in places (weak roster of classic Pokemon, no day/night system, Emerald's animated sprites are lazy compared to Crystal)
Emerald helps a bit, though. It adds more Gen I and II Pokemon (Ditto, Smeargle, Sudowoodo). It helps make breeding not a disaster by adding some inheritance. It made good TMs like Earthquake able to be re-acquired if used. Also by that point FRLG and the GCN games had been out awhile, so Gen I and II Pokemon weren't that rare anymore.
But I find Gen III very hard to go back to, and this is coming from someone who has Ruby as his most played Pokemon game, ever. It's not quite modern, but it doesn't quite have the classic GB Pokemon charm.
Versus Platinum or HGSS which are one infinite TM cheat code away from being not at all dated. DP's slow battles can't be helped, but there's no need since Platinum exists. The art style of Gen IV is still my favorite in the series.
TheListOfToddicho
Member
I think this was good, I loved Gen II, and I think Johto is one of my favorite regions, I think people will enjoy playing them in their original beauty.
AlexFlame116
Member
Quick someone tell me how to get a shiny male Cyndaquil as a starter plz.
I don't feel bad for saying this but I'm actually more excited for this than Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Pokken DX.
I don't feel bad for saying this but I'm actually more excited for this than Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Pokken DX.
The Run button was in Ruby and Sapphire, they were the first game in the main series to introduce it.
Earthbound64
Banned
Do you remember the comment that I was replying to:
"Let's get VC on the Switch first."
Nothing in that comment about Pokémon Gold or Silver, or GBC, just about "let's get VC on the Switch first" - and I replied in answer to that comment.
Hell yeah! Silver is still the only single player game that I put over 200 hours in.
Dark Orchid
Member
GS Ball event was a Crystal thing and the item appears as Kabichuu / Teru-Sama in Japanese / International G/S like other dummied out key items. However, due to the weirdness of Korean G/S's build, it is correctly labeled as the GS Ball there-- it just has no function. The scripts for Celebi to appear in Ilex Forest aren't in G/S at all, unfortunately.
What'll likely happen is they'll provide another ticket to go get it in Japan and then maybe do an event in the UK like they did with Mew. For those without access (ie. most of the world) there is a rather risky and time-consuming glitch that can be used to acquire a Celebi, although Bank will also likely have a restriction preventing anything not labeled with the Gefuri / GF OT.
...although I'm sure someone will figure out some arbitrary code execution method to get a Celebi with the correct OT and DVs within 5 days of the games launching.
I'm not praising the story of Gen VI. It was terrible too, but thankfully it was barely there so it didn't constantly get in the way of my adventure like it did in Gen V & VII.
What I loved about Gen VI was the Pokemon designs. Only going to list fully-evolved Pokemon to keep this shorter, but Noivern, Greninja, Pangoro, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Aegislash, Trevenant, Talonflame, Malamar, Vivillon, Dragalgae, Heliolisk, Aurorus...seriously some of these have become all-time favourites. Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde are also the best looking cover legendaries since Gen III imo. For comparison's sake...the only Pokemon I liked from Gen V are Krookodile, Braviary and Reuniclus. And none of them are favourites. Gen VII only has Alolan Ninetales.
I also loved the huge variety of Pokemon you could find in Gen VI. Everyone's in-game teams were so much more diverse than usual when X&Y came out, and it adds so much replayability. I find the region to be very charming too.
Yeah, I had a great time with X&Y overall. Most of the complaints leveled at it never really applied to me. I've never really cared about their stories, and the post game stuff...well I went past 999:59 hours on Pokemon Y breeding for shinies, creating competitive teams and battling online. That was my post-game.
Ahh, the game I purchased from a shady dealer. It turned out to be a bootleg, but mostly ran just fine. Only, the translation was fucked. I mean, fucked. It didn't take me long to discover that the denizens of Johto are a profane bunch, and the further I progressed into the game, the less sense anyone made. By the time I reached Lavender Town, a certain kindly man told me "go on quest @+#+$+*+$+$$++#82($(' cookies ✓===" or something.
BG!Gold is what it was called. Or something to that effect. I played the game "again" a month later, when it uh, actually came out Stateside.
BG!Gold is what it was called. Or something to that effect. I played the game "again" a month later, when it uh, actually came out Stateside.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I think I might have bought the same game, from a shop in Athens when I was on a family holiday in 2000.
Did your version have tackle translated as "punch"?
Oh wow. TDM, you and me, man. You and me.
I've finally found someone who knows my pain. Yes. Yes, I do believe it was.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I finished the whole fucking game on that bootleg bullshit. Text would come up with characters my gameboy couldn't display. Words only occasionally made sense. I had to brute force a lot of puzzles when I was figuring out where to go. I thought at the time that I'd simply bought a Greek version that was causing glitches on my Gameboy - years later I realized it was actually most likely just a bootleg version. I wish I kept my cartridge, I think it got stolen later on along with a bunch of other pokemon games I had.
We got to Greece in the first month of this massive family holiday around the world. It was a 4 month total trip, so I had plenty of time, and as a 9 year old I had infinite patience for dealing with that nonsense. I was just too excited to play the game, I wasn't going to let anything stand in my way. When we got back to Australia my parents bought Pokemon Silver (legitimate) for my older sister in a store in Melbourne, the day before we flew back home. Then I played the game again, finally in English with a proper translation.
Reminds me of the bootleg Crystal that I had. I loved playing through Silver, and my aunt bought and shipped me Crystal from Hong Kong. Turns out that its called Vietnamese Crystal by the community. The Pokemon are called elfs, and whenever you pick up an item it would say something like "x(item) get bag fuck". The moves and translation weren't good. There was also some Unown message on my game at the E4 that kind of spooked me.
megarockexe
Member
I'm kind of tempted to pick this up. I remember spending a lot of time on Gold or Silver, even though it wasn't my copy. And I'm running out of box space on my Sun anyways. But then as other people have mentioned it's hard to go back. It's a huge time investment for some rare transfers. But since Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are likely to be heavily Johto-inspired, it may be one of the only ways to get those exclusive Pokemon.
Yep, nothing daunted us. I was about 12, myself. And I refused to let it get me down. I learned about bootlegs with that game, and I learned some, uh, vital deductive skills. I'll never forget those beautiful, life-changing words.
"you pkmn cj|✓|✓|π÷π~¢`¢~©®%ampion congrats"
I was so proud.
Yeah, there is some fuckery in ours, too. I got told to "fuck ¥" a few times or something to that effect.
Dark Orchid
Member
Jeffzero said:
Can't find a bootleg Gold out there where Tackle is Punch, but I did find one where it calls the fight option "hit" and seems to have stolen the font from an official game. This one seems way too coherent to be what you're talking about.
I do remember seeing some kid on the playground with Gold way back in 2000. He was around Route 38 and was trying to say that he had an early copy from Nintendo and they were changing the Pokemon names. I figured that was bullshit because Mr. Mime was named CLOWN of all things. This sounds a lot more like the one you two played, I hope someone still has a copy somewhere and archives it, would love to see how bad they screwed it up.
Some of the early bootlegs for Pokemon are great, I have this weird Pokemon Green cart where it calls Pokemon PETs and had its own names for everything (attack was HIT). It also had numerous spacing and spelling errors due to just working within the Japanese text boxes, which resulted in:
instead of "Clefairy's attack fell!"
The ROM eventually ended up on the internet and someone actually patched it to get past Bruno (who was crashing the game with an invalid name or something).
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
While I think people need to calm down with the "everything should come to Switch" nonsense, this logic doesn't hold up either in my opinion. The install base can't grow without putting software out that will grow said install base. Unless you expect every major developer to take the wait and see approach with Switch and not make games for it until the install base magically grows on it's own.
Earthbound64
Banned
I think that's what many expect.
That wouldn't be hard to disable so I doubt that
It's great that Time Capsule has been confirmed to work. Really cool that they have gone their way to maintain the core aspects of the games, even if they aren't necessarily adherent to the modern-day standards of the series. At the same time, it kind of pisses me off even more that Crystal was left behind. Almost makes me wonder if they want to emulate its online features on Switch. NES games on Classic Games Selection will have online features, after all. A Switch-exclusive Crystal without compatibility to RGBY/GS would be a heavy blow, but admittedly it would be awesome if players in the west were given access to the Japan-exclusive feature for the first time.
Speaking of completeness, will they implement Mystery Gift? 3DS does have an IR port!
Speaking of completeness, will they implement Mystery Gift? 3DS does have an IR port!
Dark Orchid
Member
I hope so (it seems like the VC emulator is using a yellow GBC instead of the normal purple one, so that might mean it's even more custom than the Gen 1 version). There's a lot of items locked to Mystery Gift and a bunch of them are for the player's room customizations.Speaking of completeness, will they implement Mystery Gift? 3DS does have an IR port!
And don't forget Cal's functionality.
Oft forgotten character and feature from GSC.
Dark Orchid
Member
Technically the IR working would remove Cal, though. It's not a surprise that people forget about him when just doing Mystery Gift at any point removes him. Poor guy even has two teams that never get used because they moved the Trainer House to postgame and there's no point in having them.And don't forget Cal's functionality.
Oft forgotten character and feature from GSC.
I hope they have some plan to get the Stadium 2 Mystery Gift stuff in, like the 3 dolls and Carrie's teams. Carrie always gave me problems with her Typhlosion team, that Porygon2 was so bulky.
The Greek Freak
Member
Really wish they were doing HG/SS instead.
Going back to vanilla R/B/Y after LG/FR was not enjoyable personally.
Going back to vanilla R/B/Y after LG/FR was not enjoyable personally.
Nachtfalke
Member
Sorry for the bump, but Saturn Germany has listings for both games:
http://www.saturn.de/de/product/_pokémon-silberne-edition-rollenspiel-nintendo-3ds-2289678.html
http://www.saturn.de/de/product/_pokémon-goldene-edition-rollenspiel-nintendo-3ds-2289676.html
Is this coming to retail in some sorts? Special editions?
http://www.saturn.de/de/product/_pokémon-silberne-edition-rollenspiel-nintendo-3ds-2289678.html
http://www.saturn.de/de/product/_pokémon-goldene-edition-rollenspiel-nintendo-3ds-2289676.html
Is this coming to retail in some sorts? Special editions?
Probably packages with download codes inside.
Says game card here, for Mario vs DK it said download code.
They say the code should be on your purchase receipt (viewable in the eShop under account activity). Maybe they haven't gone out yet though? I got a code from Amazon and it immediately let me download a bonus theme after redeeming, but no Celebi. Though I might've just missed it too.
In other news, you can officially preload the game as of yesterday (at least in NA). I have no clue why you'd need to preinstall a 700 kilobyte download, but if you've already bought it you may now do so if you choose, lol.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I preloaded it and it already gave me the Celebi code. Maybe Amazon is waiting for some reason.
BTW - really dumb that they won't let you get Celebi in the actual Gold/Silver games! Event Pokemon are forever the worst. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with 250 caught, I'm not messing around with clones.
BTW - really dumb that they won't let you get Celebi in the actual Gold/Silver games! Event Pokemon are forever the worst. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with 250 caught, I'm not messing around with clones.
Lynd7
Member
I got the theme code in the receipt, doesn't seem to have a Celebi one.. It pre loaded for me here in AU too. Celebi is a worldwide thing right?
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Got the physical silver code in the package yesterday, but had to wait till earlier today (around 5:30 am gmt+1). Will get that damn celebi in sun and then play the shit out of silver over the weekend. YAY