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EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
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Is it bad that i would play this?
Well this sucks...
I really didn't care about the Star Wars game, but Dead Space was one of the best new IPs last gen. Even the third installment's mixed bag of ideas and execution didn't deserve to see the franchise's abandonment.
Plus, doesn't Star Wars stuff pretty much print money?
To me it sounds as if they didn't want to make a single player game. Yet how many people complained about Battlefront not having a single player component?
Sucks for the folks at Visceral; sucks for Amy Hennig, sucks for us.
I really didn't care about the Star Wars game, but Dead Space was one of the best new IPs last gen. Even the third installment's mixed bag of ideas and execution didn't deserve to see the franchise's abandonment.
Plus, doesn't Star Wars stuff pretty much print money?
To me it sounds as if they didn't want to make a single player game. Yet how many people complained about Battlefront not having a single player component?
Sucks for the folks at Visceral; sucks for Amy Hennig, sucks for us.
Obliterator
Member
Ah yeah if you are talking about massive investment companies sure that's possible.
I was just saying none of the big 3rd parties are doing much shopping anymore. And even then Vivendi is unsure if they are going to complete the takeover of Ubi or not. The game that the big publishers are in is hugely expensive and that's why you saw companies like THQ for example collapse. AAA development has become so hugely expensive there's only a few players in town and it takes an enormous amount of money to try to either buy into the market or try and compete with them.
It's why Ubisoft,Activision, and EA etc are so happy about the current industry state
Lucas Sparks
Neo Member
So unfortunate...
prag16
Banned
I got shit on for expressing this opinion in the E3 topics about it. But yeah that was my exact reaction. That plus indignation that Mass Effect had to die for this to live.
Ninja Scooter
Member
if in 2017 you can try and make the claim that gaming is being "ruined", I don't know what to tell you.
GnomeBambino
Neo Member
Great point, EA appears to be going all in on games that can be monetized in perpetuity a short sighted move. There aren't enough people dedicated enough to video games for all of these publishers to have a Destiny or Overwatch level success. As we've seen with games like Battleborn and even The Division which didn't workout long term these ventures fail more often then they succeed. Anthem could very well end up on Activision's trophy rack.
NightShift
Member
It was inevitable but I just finished replaying Dead Space 1 & 2 so fuck EA especially hard. What an enormous waste of talent for no good reason.
The Strokes
Banned
Sad news. I Hope everyone affected by this get to land on their feet.
Audioboxer
Member
To be fair the first came out in 2005/2006, a little bit too early for the internet indie/digital revolution. The PS2 days had fierce competition on retail shelves.
This time around steam should really help Psychonauts 2 if they can make a quality game. As will PSN/XBL.
No they aren't, they're open world single player games with DLC. GAAS is a different design paradigm altogether.
Baraka Obama
Banned
I believe that devils cartel was made by another dev that was renamed to visceral and then shut down after that game flopped. Edit I looked it up and I cant find anything so maybe I wrong
Just looking at this list you can tell that EA hardly game them any creative freedom to make anything interesting besides Dead Space.
Not surprised to see Visceral get shut down, but I am surprised it happened before they ever even showed anything of the Star Wars game they were making. I figured that was a shoe-in for next year. Guess things weren't going well.
Best wishes for those who lost their jobs; hopefully they can find another one quickly. Job hunting is the worst.
Best wishes for those who lost their jobs; hopefully they can find another one quickly. Job hunting is the worst.
LightofRohan
Member
I'm so glad everyone complains about Linear Action Adventure games so publishers are scared to ever make those types of games. Don't want my favorite genre to get too much play, we need more open world, with gameplay that's fun to watch on twitch.
Fml.
Fml.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Sony, Bethesda and Japan are still pushing them thankfully.
Way back when they first announced this story-based game with Visceral and Henning, I kinda saw something like this coming. I was wondering why a company like EA would still bother to do a game mainly sold on the back of its story without multiplayer. Actually, I was kinda wondering that as far back as Battlefield Hardline. Even then Visceral's focus on singleplayer games seemed at odds with the new games-as-a-service future.
Messofanego
Banned
"games as a service" basically.
Spartancarver
Member
Goddammit there is nothing wrong with linear action games with story focus.
They're going to shoehorn open world into the game somehow.
They're going to shoehorn open world into the game somehow.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Damn, I wish that Star Wars gaming license wasn't exclusive to EA. They have not done much good for the brand. I wonder if Disney regrets that deal.
PeskyToaster
Member
EA seems to have been the wrong choice to partner with for the Star Wars franchise. Only Battlefront has come out since the partnership was announced in like 2013. Not a great look.
Theslammer
Member
Same. I'm totally down for single-player, and my most-wanted games have strong single-player modes. But man, Killing Floor 2 sucked a lot of time from me this year and still does on and off, Starcraft's map creator and multiplayer had me playing until SCII released in 2010, I've been playing a lot of Uncharted: 4/LL Survival Mode, and heck, with Mass Effect 3 and MGS: Peace Walker, I actually did a lot of multiplayer on both.
Plus, expansions, especially along the lines of Left Behind, Lost Legacy (which is its own game, honestly), The Old Hunters, Scholar of the First Sin, and hopefully Frozen Wilds as long as it's high quality, all are in that service model, AFAIK, as they extend the life of a game, and are all great. Many of them have enough content to constitute full games from a decade ago and then some.
It doesn't look interesting to me either but not necessarily because it strikes me as uninspired. I'm neither a fan of Destiny's format nor mechanized exosuit stuff though, so neither the probable gameplay loop nor the key visual language in the trailer did anything for me. So I'm tentatively just straight-up out of luck.
Audioboxer
Member
GnomeBambino
Neo Member
It's possible during that time the game has been tailored to match current trends. Namely the "mmo-lite" genre that all the major publishers appear to be chasing.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Gemüsepizza;252316490 said:
And thank God because not having SP games anymore or just very few is not how I want to keep being a gamer. But yes you're right, plenty good stuff is coming. This is still very sad though. Why not just keep Visceral and let them go back to the drawing board, why completely shut down Visceral?
Man sometimes I wonder how a proper Dead Space game could look on these systems. 3 should never have been like that. I bet if it had been similar to 1 and 2 the sales would have been better.
GitarooMan
Member
Time to play break out Dead Space and play it again. One of the all time greats
chromatic9
Member
They can rename this to Star Wars 777
Fuck EA. Really wanted to play Amy Hennig's Star Wars game
Fuck EA. Really wanted to play Amy Hennig's Star Wars game
Takamura-San
Member
No, but a publisher doesn't cancel or change developers on a game they have confidence that is going to perform. Look at all the games that EA has put to market that are not even close to good, and think how bad this was to warrant this action.
Baraka Obama
Banned
Companies like Exxon and Bank of America are significantly worse than EA
That being said fuck EA
No it's not and I hate that people are conflating the 2. Horizon, BOTW, and The Witcher 3 DLC is more akin to expansion packs that have existed for years.
CarbonFire
Member
Sigh. This is not at all surprising.
RIP Visceral
Thanks, Games as a service!
RIP Visceral
Thanks, Games as a service!
Fucking EA. Why the hell did they get the rights for Star Wars in the first place when all they want to do is Battlefield and now practically Destiny. Let somebody else fucking do an adventure Star Wars game, that's fucking rare these days, not the thousandth shooter in a year.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The expense is the main issue, game development got more expensive and as the post above mine says, many players would want to get more out of their initial $60. People keep citing Sony, but all of their games are shifting to the market trend of being much more open. Uncharted just got two entries with pseudo open world segments, TLOU2 is most definitely gonna advertise how much player agency is there compared to the first and how levels are larger. God of War devs are advertising how you can go off the beaten track and explore much more than previous entries. Days Gone, Spiderman, and Horizon are open world. Detroit is advertising about how replayable it is compared to other Quantic Dream games. You can see similar trends in Nintendo.
Shrike Alvaron
Member
Gemüsepizza;252316490 said:
And here I was making my own list like this. To expand, here's a number of rather acclaimed single player games that have already come out this year. Some indie, some from big publishers. Some western, some eastern.
-Resident Evil 7
-Yakuza 0
-Nioh
-Horizon Zero Dawn
-The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
-Nier Automata
-Persona 5
-Prey
-Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
-Divinity: Original Sin 2
-Dishonored: Death of the Outsider
-Cuphead
And since it's not out yet but you didn't include it:
-Super Mario Odyssey
Single player is not going anywhere, people. Even if AAA publishers DO reduce their SP output, indies and Nintendo will always carry the torch.
For all the people who proclaim 2017 has been such a great year for gaming you all seem to forget that rather easily when confronted by one publisher doing what it's always done. The fact there's a meme for how frequently EA closes studios really should point that this is nothing new and doesn't really indicate any shifting stance in the industry at large.
Edit: Hello, Resetera/Pokechat Discord! Shrike here.
Honey Bunny
Member
Surely no company would want to be bought by EA anymore right? Their killcount deserves a COD montage parody video at this point.
By chance, pray tell, were you at any point in time contacted by EA and asked your opinion? If so, did they happen to inform you that you'd be the sole gamer responsible for the fate of this project?
Baraka Obama
Banned
It could be a million things and assuming that the hard work these people put into this game was bad is insulting towards the developers especially when you look at theyre track record.
Huh, when I read the blurb, I was interpreting it as making the game an open world design like Assassin's Creed... But evidently what they mean is they intend to make it a microtransactions addled affair?
Fuck, EA never should have gotten exclusive rights to anything, let alone the Star Wars IP.
Fuck, EA never should have gotten exclusive rights to anything, let alone the Star Wars IP.
Nothing wrong except in this market trying to justify the budget for a AAA linear short game just isn't feasible.
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