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Gran Turismo SPORT | OT | Putting it all on the line

l2ounD

Member
Yeah but the BoP should correct these things, the cars dont need to drive exactly the same but as it is there is a huge difference. Not a big problem as it's still fun to race, but its a bit disappointing. I dont want to always have to check which cars other peole are using so that I can race in equal conditions...

Btw, the Lancer handles much better the TCS, being a 4wd should really help in this aspect. I raced again against the M4s online (finished 4th) and in the top 9 there were 7 M4s, I and a Mustang. Its not a coincidence, the M4 is was better than the others.

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This was a shot from the beta. It was only me and maybe 2 other people that didnt go GTR.
Later on though through updates/tunes people picked a few different cars. But its mostly people picking the "fastest" car
 

darkwing

Member
Not a fan of downtuning, but can you really downtune a Group car to N class?

They are the equivalents to GT race cars, right? So they should have additional features like cages, aero etc a N class car doesn't. That should be impossible to simply downtune.

With the new infos from the other GT thread regarding tuning, it's now clear how they came up with the new system, but it really is a mess. The tuning part also was a huge part of old gt, changing parts, even whole engines, now it is just replaced by a dumbed down button press system. Another huge part of GT history just missing from GTS like a lot of other stuff.

I don't think it is possible to downgrade a Gr to N
 
I don't think it is possible to downgrade a Gr to N

I don't think so but I brought it up only as an example why the downgrading isn't a brilliant idea. You could make the Gr cars as heavy and slow as street cars but they would still wipe the floor because you could brake a lot later and corner much better.
 

GHG

Gold Member
I don't think so but I brought it up only as an example why the downgrading isn't a brilliant idea. You could make the Gr cars as heavy and slow as street cars but they would still wipe the floor because you could brake a lot later and corner much better.

The heavier the car the slower it would be at braking and the more difficult turn in is :p
 

magawolaz

Member
Just wondering: if the servers go down when you're doing tests, do you get a notification after you clear a stage (and collecting rewards+updating times on leaderboard), or only when you go back at the main menu (like, after clearing them all)?
 

GHG

Gold Member
I just thought I'd check out the oval race for shits and giggles.

I made a huge mistake. Booted right down to D/D.

I'm sticking to my baby, brands hatch.
 

KdotIX

Member
Finally getting the hang of Suzuka East and slowly gaining confidence. Decided to use the Viper as it feels more stable than the Cayman.
 

ty_hot

Member
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This was a shot from the beta. It was only me and maybe 2 other people that didnt go GTR.
Later on though through updates/tunes people picked a few different cars. But its mostly people picking the "fastest" car
I remember racing in an Oval during the beta. 17 GT-R and I had a Beetle hahahaha.

Anyway, someone at polyphony must be reading this thread: I just got the M4 as a prize from a rally in circuit experience so I will finally compete equally.
 

Razgreez

Member
Is there any reason one should raise the weight of a car?

Never never never... well actually on one occasion, if the vehicle is completely imbalanced and essential components cannot be re-arranged then weight, added as ballast, could potentially improve/remedy the situation. But you wouldn't want to find yourself in that position in the first place
 
Just wondering: if the servers go down when you're doing tests, do you get a notification after you clear a stage (and collecting rewards+updating times on leaderboard), or only when you go back at the main menu (like, after clearing them all)?

You'll get a small notification at the bottom of the screen while driving (think of it like a trophy notification saying 'lost connection to server') and after the race a notification dialog every time you switch to a different menu (every time the game tries to save, like switching to the next test, going to main menu etc.).
 
Spent over an hour trying to get gold on that double apex license test, finally gave up for the night. So frustrating. I also don't really understand the brake markers. Most of the time if I start braking at the marker I completely overshoot the turn.

To add insult to injury, my daily gift car was a Mustang GT. After yesterday's Camaro, I'm beginning to think it's just giving me American cars because that's my country.
 
Spent over an hour trying to get gold on that double apex license test, finally gave up for the night. So frustrating. I also don't really understand the brake markers. Most of the time if I start braking at the marker I completely overshoot the turn.

To add insult to injury, my daily gift car was a Mustang GT. After yesterday's Camaro, I'm beginning to think it's just giving me American cars because that's my country.

Which one is that? Also what braking markers are you talking about? The little arrows at corners aren't braking markers. Rather they're simply an ideal time to start turning. You'll need to brake before you get there or you will overshoot the corner.
 
Had been deliberately using weaker cars in N300 for fun, plus I was trying to work on my SR. Finally bought an M4, qualified 3 seconds faster, started P3 after a bunch of races at 20ish with some same people in each race and was curious to see how the leader was managing a second better than everyone a lap. Faster laps in race than qualifying, even! Precision technique? Heavens no. Just abusing the shit out of track limits. It would have been impossible to qualify with those times because you can't roll over penalty time lap to lap like during a race where you can slowly bleed it.

Well, I guess that's still technically precision, but it's bullshit to see a car take to the grass in the middle sector like it's entirely normal and then pull away. I set purple times in sectors 1 and 3 repeatedly and it meant nothing.
Spent over an hour trying to get gold on that double apex license test, finally gave up for the night. So frustrating. I also don't really understand the brake markers. Most of the time if I start braking at the marker I completely overshoot the turn.
The markers I think are just at a generic distance and aren't specific to what vehicle you're in. They're a rough guide but braking points still vary.
 
The blue markers are a general idea of where to be when entering, at the apex, and exiting the corner. You should not be braking when you pass the blue marker.

The multiple cones at the side of the track are an estimate braking point. Also when the gear icon starts flashing is a good estimate of when to start braking, going down to that gear is very conservative though.
 
Which one is that? Also what braking markers are you talking about? The little arrows at corners aren't braking markers. Rather they're simply an ideal time to start turning. You'll need to brake before you get there or you will overshoot the corner.

I meant the cones. Sometimes they make sense, but on this test it's way farther back than it would be reasonable to brake at.

I don't remember the name exactly, it's on the first row of Intermediate license tests, two or three from the end. You have to hit two consecutive apexes.
 

nw3

Member
For a tight circuit like brands hatch Indy the little things make a big difference.

I just tried the A45 for example and while the brakes are better and it's more stable while exiting corners it understeers like a pig the moment you apply throttle. Not wasting my time trying to get anything out of that car when I'm lapping mid 55's in the M4.

Exactly. The context is interesting, majority of manufacturers tend to dial in understeer to their cars (factory setup) as it protects them legally - if there's a front-end crash (it understeered) then more chance to be viewed as driver error by law, whereas if the car spins (it oversteered) then much more likely to fall on the manufacturer by law. Some exceptions e.g. the F-Type V8 before they made it 4wd.

Have you tried trail-braking the A45 on corner entry? That should help the car turn in as the weight transfers to the front for longer, however I don't know how well the reality of this is implemented in GT-Sport. In real life it's a classic technique on either 4wd cars or those like older 911s with all the weight in the rear 👍
 
I meant the cones. Sometimes they make sense, but on this test it's way farther back than it would be reasonable to brake at.

I don't remember the name exactly, it's on the first row of Intermediate license tests, two or three from the end. You have to hit two consecutive apexes.

Is it the one where you're driving a 468 on the Ring?
 

DrDamn

Member
I meant the cones. Sometimes they make sense, but on this test it's way farther back than it would be reasonable to brake at.

I don't remember the name exactly, it's on the first row of Intermediate license tests, two or three from the end. You have to hit two consecutive apexes.

http://www.gran-turismo.com/be/gtsport/manual/#!/drivingoption/content01

"Cone Markers: These cones will indicate four spots: the braking area, where you should start steering, the innermost point of a corner, and the corner's exit point. There are two cones indicating the braking area."

The double cones indicate the braking area but I don't think they are exact, more a guide, so you will need to adjust for the car you are driving. I love the cone indicators - really nice solution to making the racing line less obtrusive.
 
Is it the one where you're driving a 468 on the Ring?

No it's short, two apex turns...a left and then a right and finish at a short straight. I'm not familiar enough with the tracks to say which, maybe Interlagos or something. I think it was a Lexus of some type. I was consistently about 0.200 off of the gold time, so frustrating. Ah well.
 
Is there no karting in any of the SP events, It wasn't in the driving school and circuit experience doesn't seem to have it either, missions maybe? Missed it during the demo in sport mode, what track was it?
 
Is the throttle response supposed to be non-linear when using pedals? Most of the pedal range is used up in the 1st 50% of throttle and the remaining 50% all seems to be squeezed into the last few millimeters of the pedal range.
 
No it's short, two apex turns...a left and then a right and finish at a short straight. I'm not familiar enough with the tracks to say which, maybe Interlagos or something. I think it was a Lexus of some type. I was consistently about 0.200 off of the gold time, so frustrating. Ah well.

Oh, now I know which one you're talking about. That one gave me hell as well. It's a 17.7 gold time and my time ended up being 17.668. The official guide video is your best bet at learning it. It's really the hardest challenge that i've come across so far (i'm currently up to Mission Challenge Stage 4 with all golds in the previous 3 stages).
 
Is there any limit on which N cars can be downtuned?

I wonder how a N300 Veyron would drive.

Yeah there is you can only bring a n400 down into a n300 and you can upgrade a n200 into a n300 race. Also if you know how to fine tune your cars and comfortable with them they will be just as competitive as the rest. I don't really like the N class M4 with the habit of its tale flicking out when trying to push it but with most of the races I'm usually in the top five without one. Always go with what you can handle better, I have also used an n200 and come second.

Is there no karting in any of the SP events, It wasn't in the driving school and circuit experience doesn't seem to have it either, missions maybe? Missed it during the demo in sport mode, what track was it?

Watch the sporting etiquette videos and you get it for doing so.
 

Razgreez

Member
No it's short, two apex turns...a left and then a right and finish at a short straight. I'm not familiar enough with the tracks to say which, maybe Interlagos or something. I think it was a Lexus of some type. I was consistently about 0.200 off of the gold time, so frustrating. Ah well.

You're referring to Intermediate test 29? Lexus on the Nürburgring GP course?

Here's a guy who completed them all https://go.twitch.tv/videos/182867342
Go to ~2:08:00 for that particular test.
 

emjot

Member
Can you apply a setup to a car in garage which is then used in Sport mode? A little shocked that all the settings are blocked when qualifying.

I meant the cones. Sometimes they make sense, but on this test it's way farther back than it would be reasonable to brake at.

I don't remember the name exactly, it's on the first row of Intermediate license tests, two or three from the end. You have to hit two consecutive apexes.

There are different sets of cones used for braking, race line, turning points, apex etc...
 

emjot

Member
I just choked so hard in the N300 daily, it wasn't even funny.
Just glad I kept my B rating, race was mostly clean, but most players still lack car awareness.
 

ty_hot

Member
I just had the best race in the game and the penalty system fucked my both ways :| Oval circuit, Lancer against thousands of GT-R. Started 6th, kept between 5-7 for 5 laps or so, then traffic started to appear so I jumped to 4th cleanly. The 3 first cars were waaay ahead of me. Then some shit happened with them, big accident, lots of cars everywhere and I got to the first position (there was this guy behind me the entire race, driving like a gentleman).

Then suddenly in the exit of the turn he hit me veeery strong, he was way faster than me which means someone hit him in the back before. So I didnt lose control of my car but I also hit the wall and 2 guys take the lead. And I got 5 seconds penalty for that (????). Ok, as I stop accelerating while turning I could erase most of that penalty naturally... Then in the last lap, the 15th guy throw me at the wall (I was outside in the curve, already half car ahead of him so it he had to see me). Lost control, car started flipping but still finished in the 4th position. Got a 5 penalty for the guy throwing the car at me and 10 more while I had no control of the car (was spinning) and hit the wall.

From almost winning for the first time to 8th place (after penalties) and a red C in SR. Fuck. After 4 races with the blue C I was probably about to get to the B level.

Edit. The guys that are winning are using the wall all the time, how come they dont get any penalty? They run the entire turn touching the wall (you can see those effects even)... meh.
 
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