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Female Police Captian Suspended after "White Male Privilege" remark
- Thread starter Nester99
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I'm almost afraid to keep talking to you because porcelain dolls are not meant to be played with.
Well the good thing is you don't have to because I have absolutely nothing to say to you, I just called you out on your ridiculous comment and you've ignored everything I've said. Its embarassing.
Autoignition
Member
I'm sorry if I cracked your porcelain skin and touched on the very sensitive, tender area that isn't wholly comfortable with acknowledging your own personal role in the strife of other people in this world, snowflake.
Only on the new Gaf could someone get away with this, enjoy it while it lasts. Hopefully when you're older you'll understand how ridiculous and ignorant you sound.
You are fragile though. The comment was directed at posters who actually posted something in the thread. You took offense to someone pointing out white fragility could exist within this thread aka fragile.
I took offense with how it was presented. I also take offense with that individual judging me without knowing one thing about me. I find the whole situation to be comical.
It wasnt presented to you. Yet you took offense.
Zog
Banned
Let it go, some people just want to hate on white males and there is no talking them out of it.
You are as fragile as these posters thinking this white cop is racist towards white people.
If you're going to form an opinion on how police violence manifests (differently), you should maybe know something about it, yes.
PataHikari
Banned
He says as he shatters into little porcelain pieces.
WaterAstro
Member
If it's used in a derogatory tone, then yeah. That definitely looks like it.
I know it happens a lot more the other way around, but women should be equally scrutinized if they wanted to be treated equally. I just wish men were scrutinized at all in a lot of cases.
I know it happens a lot more the other way around, but women should be equally scrutinized if they wanted to be treated equally. I just wish men were scrutinized at all in a lot of cases.
Again this is NOT the issue here.
It was a presentation to make aware of a problem. It was not some internet talk. But I would love you trying this in a real life presentation when someone does not agree or does not understand your point.
How hard is it to understand that you CAN NOT do it in a profesional field
PS: It is always eaier to blame others for the problems in life. Victimhood is a reall problem these days.
The Culture of Victimhood
Vicetrailia
Member
White male privilege presentations are done in real life, and that's what Donald Trump is the definition of. The problem is that you're calling victim mentality in the face of facts about transgender arrests. Takes a fool to do that.
Rocket Number 22
Member
Insults directed at other members of this forum will not be tolerated.
This was not such a presentation. This was to make aware of the problem within the police. And by using these phrases she did a pretty good job of people thnking you are nuts and not worth listening to.
Further more she did it so silence people who did not agree or did not understand what she was talking about.
CampbellzSoup
Member
Just imagine if she said black male you have no valid opinion can you imagine??? Singling out race is racists...sorry it is even if its fashionable on the left to do so.
Dude Abides
Banned
You realize the person who made the white male privilege comment was not the same person giving the presentation? Please tell me you haven't been posting all this stuff without even understanding that.
PataHikari
Banned
Hmmm soo we can't solve the problems that minorities and women face if we actually talk about them because that would hurt white males feelings.
Oh well!
Zog
Banned
So we should talk about racism and sexism except when it happens to white males?
no one ever said that. But to use this phrase to shut someone down because you have no argument is not only stupid but also will stop your progress or point you want to make
If you only argument is white male privilege maybe you should do more research before trying to talk about such a topic.
Taliban Stan
Member
I think she used the term "white male privilege" because it was a white male implying that because he hadn't personally experienced something, any stats, analysis, studies, or facts could be thrown out of the window or called into question. That his personal experience trumped all reality and that this was strong counter-evidence.
Generally, you would need to support your argument with something in the face of such overwhelming evidence. I think the idea that well I didn't see it so it can't possibly have happened is a privileged statement to make unless you're omnipotent and you literally see everything that happens everywhere.
Can someone explain how I didn't see it therefore you're making this up or your research is crazy incorrect is rational? So much of the focus is on the WMP term that I feel people are totally overlooking that this guy was not a scientist, he had done no research into the issue on his own, but felt that his personal experience made him enough of an expert to shoot down facts and science without him having to do any amount of research on the issue. That's definitely an arrogant or privileged stance to take imo.
Generally, you would need to support your argument with something in the face of such overwhelming evidence. I think the idea that well I didn't see it so it can't possibly have happened is a privileged statement to make unless you're omnipotent and you literally see everything that happens everywhere.
Can someone explain how I didn't see it therefore you're making this up or your research is crazy incorrect is rational? So much of the focus is on the WMP term that I feel people are totally overlooking that this guy was not a scientist, he had done no research into the issue on his own, but felt that his personal experience made him enough of an expert to shoot down facts and science without him having to do any amount of research on the issue. That's definitely an arrogant or privileged stance to take imo.
Dude Abides
Banned
Maybe you should figure out who said what in this exchange before commenting further. Youre embarrassing yourself.
People did ridicule him in this thread.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Why is acknowledging privaledge such a big deal? I'm privaledged in some areas of life, so fucking what? Does that mean my opinion doesn't matter on issues across the board?
Telling someone to basically stfu because their privilege level is too high for that conversation is just a cowardly way to silence them.
What if I admit my privaledges and still don't give a shit it bothers you?
What the male officer was in this case was a dumbass. A triggered dumbass too. He should be punished for his outburst. The female officer comes off as someone with an axe to grind and deserves her punishment as well. Should have just called him an idiot instead of being sexist.
Telling someone to basically stfu because their privilege level is too high for that conversation is just a cowardly way to silence them.
What if I admit my privaledges and still don't give a shit it bothers you?
What the male officer was in this case was a dumbass. A triggered dumbass too. He should be punished for his outburst. The female officer comes off as someone with an axe to grind and deserves her punishment as well. Should have just called him an idiot instead of being sexist.
Hissing Sid
Member
Because apparently if I was in the same room as a billionaire who happened to be black, as a poor white guy Id automatically be the priveledged one.... or summats.
I suppose it all makes a great deal of sense in academia but in the real world all this kind of stuff seems to do is get everyone nice and comfortable in their respective trenches.
Lol, you don't understand how it works at all.
People are allowed their uninformed opinions, yes.
You have the privilege of being ignorant. Hell you embrace it, be ignorant and proud!
Just makes me hope you have no power to ruin the lives of others.
Priviledge does not equal success. It just makes it easier.
I don't think most people do, including these cops obviously. The argument of privilege is supported by statistics, but it's a gross error to apply statistics results to individuals, which is what both cops did, and most people do honestly.
The whole thing is futile for me anyway, the only way privilege acknowledgement is worth anything is if it comes from self realization, when you try to force it to people who have failed to experience it you will only create rejection and confrontation.
FreedomFighter
Member
Correct.
I don't find anything wrong with what she said aside form the fact that she should have used some tact. She's not wrong here at all, but saying this illicits a defensive response that doesn't lead to a productive dialogue.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Not that it isn't true but you'd probably expect a reaction like that for that kind of comment.
Guy is a fucking numbnuts though. Anyone who suggests a statistic is invalid because they don't personally know anyone who is part of it is not an intelligent human being.
Guy is a fucking numbnuts though. Anyone who suggests a statistic is invalid because they don't personally know anyone who is part of it is not an intelligent human being.
Vicetrailia
Member
His worldly thought process completely revolves around whether or not he and people in his circle have experienced it.
Not only is that lunacy, but it's quite of privilege to be able to function thinking like that. She's 100% right, and his sensitivity and barking resulting in her suspension proves her point.
Not only is that lunacy, but it's quite of privilege to be able to function thinking like that. She's 100% right, and his sensitivity and barking resulting in her suspension proves her point.
Zog
Banned
Isn't it the case for most people that their thought process revolves around their own experience? What do you believe that goes against your own lived experience?
100% right to be racist and sexist? Do you think racism and sexism are ok, sometimes?
Vicetrailia
Member
Zog
Banned
So you never question statistics, even if they don't match up with your life experiences?
Vicetrailia
Member
If I was at that presentation, I wouldn't question those statistics as they're presented.
But in general, there are many factors like who are the statistics from, what are they trying to analyze and conclude, how did they collect the data, etc.
But those are statistics, it's different than life experiences, and you have to look at it scientifically.
Like of someone said "the average credit card debt is $15,000 and here's why", I wouldn't write it off as "irresponsible fools" because I'm credit card debt free.
Zog
Banned
So you pick and choose the statistics you think are true too. Moving on, you missed a question (or you ignored it) so I will ask again.
You said that what she said was 100% right and I asked:
Me said:
Vicetrailia
Member
CampbellzSoup
Member
Singling out gender and sex is yes racist and sexist