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[Freeza Under The Shower]

One thing about the universe kinda stuck out from the demo: apparently the ship attacking the reaper is a dreadnought. Which are, like, superrare according to ME1 (the Turians possess most, at 42 or 48, if I recall correctly). They are also kind of badass and such. Yet it doesn't do any damage to the reaper, whereas the original Normandy was able to kill one.

I know this is 'story narrative' versus 'ludic / gameplay narrative' or whatever you want to call it, but that suddenly stood out to me from the demo. No biggy, but just a bit odd with the lore and also the implication that bringing every ship to Earth is not going to much, besides giving the reapers an easier culling. I wonder if that's going to give you paragon points for being so nice to them.

And I finally found those 2d sprites on the PS3. Not giving a fuck, since it's completely irrelevant. I was trying to figure out whether the small fighters were 2d as well, though. Are these 2d models as well?

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

Anyone running into the same problem as me?

Using a 6970 here. Even updated to the latest drivers and it made no difference. Unless this is how the demo actually looks like lol

EDIT: Removed the tiny pic link. What's a good place to upload images? Anyway, the textures on my end just looks like smeared crap

imgur doesn't recycle links, afaik.

 

[Chris R]

There is no player versus player. The trial is just open to both silver and gold members. It's not a gold pass.

Bah, waste of bandwidth then. Oh well, I guess I was confused and thought that it was going to provide a gold trial and not just be open to us lesser members.

 

[Rad Agast]

Am I imagining things? the N7 Collector's Edition is sold out online? I really want to get that.

 

[Wiggum2007]

One thing about the universe kinda stuck out from the demo: apparently the ship attacking the reaper is a dreadnought. Which are, like, superrare according to ME1 (the Turians possess most, at 42 or 48, if I recall correctly). They are also kind of badass and such. Yet it doesn't do any damage to the reaper, whereas the original Normandy was able to kill one.

I know this is 'story narrative' versus 'ludic / gameplay narrative' or whatever you want to call it, but that suddenly stood out to me from the demo. No biggy, but just a bit odd with the lore and also the implication that bringing every ship to Earth is not going to much, besides giving the reapers an easier culling. I wonder if that's going to give you paragon points for being so nice to them.

Dreadnaughts aren't supposed to be able to enter planetary atmospheres, that bugged me more.

 

[mercenar1e]

Am I imagining things? the N7 Collector's Edition is sold out online? I really want to get that.

try bestbuy

 

[Enduin]

Dreadnaughts aren't supposed to be able to enter planetary atmospheres, that bugged me more.

I saw a thing on BSN about this, it was a screw up by the script guys and when it was caught it was too late and recording had been finished up for quite some time. among the writers there was one or two that were really not happy about the fudge up. In any event that is not a human dreadnought despite being called one.

 

[Bruce Lee Kicks]

Am I imagining things? the N7 Collector's Edition is sold out online? I really want to get that.

Sam's Club still has it. Hopefully you don't have to be a member to order online.

 

[Synless]

So what's the deal with Cerberus anyways? Why are they suddenly trying to kill Shepard? Also, Shepard was bitching about her ship being grounded, wasn't that a Cerberus ship? How did the alliance manage to ground that ship!

 

[HK-47]

Dreadnaughts aren't supposed to be able to enter planetary atmospheres, that bugged me more.

The codex has no bearing on what actually happens in game. Remember the space fight in ME1?

 

[HooYaH]

So what's the deal with Cerberus anyways? Why are they suddenly trying to kill Shepard? Also, Shepard was bitching about her ship being grounded, wasn't that a Cerberus ship? How did the alliance manage to ground that ship!

Played Arrival DLC?

 

[HigherLevel]

I don't like the multiplayer. Feels like a low budget Horde mode from Gears. Still pumped for the campaign.

 

[Wiggum2007]

So what's the deal with Cerberus anyways? Why are they suddenly trying to kill Shepard? Also, Shepard was bitching about her ship being grounded, wasn't that a Cerberus ship? How did the alliance manage to ground that ship!

Well I'd think it's safe to say that when Shepard turned themselves in that the Alliance wouldn't just send the Normandy back to Cerberus. And why Cerberus is an enemy now is supposed to be one of the mysteries of the story that will unravel as we play the game. But I mean come on. It's indoctrination.

The codex has no bearing on what actually happens in game. Remember the space fight in ME1?

A fair point.

 

[Synless]

Played Arrival DLC?

Nope, should I? It was the only DLC I don't play.

 

[Psychoward]

Man this game is going to have a fucking awesome soundtrack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrjhk4L9rdE&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HRC...xt=C37e589eUDOEgsToPDskJcozR5uxYkIfdoING6rHoi

Both of those tracks were in ME2 DLC, they're just tweaked a bit.

 

[Wiggum2007]

Both of those tracks were in ME2 DLC, they're just tweaked a bit.

Linky? I know the first one was, but I don't recognize the 2nd one.

 

[CrazyDude]

Both of those tracks were in ME2 DLC, they're just tweaked a bit.

Which tracks exactly?

 

[Patapwn]

Excited. However, the ending of the 'action' demo indicated that ME3 will boil down to a fetch quest for the various civilization's support.

Given all the proceeding events in ME1/2 I don't think that would make any sense. I really hope it's not a series of planet visits where I have to win over species X to fucking save the galaxy by means of W, Y or Z.

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

The codex has no bearing on what actually happens in game. Remember the space fight in ME1?

what exactly are you referring to? It's been a long time since I played the ME1 endgame.

(they did rewrite the entire 'Mass Effect' for the sequel though, that I do remember. )

 

[delirium]

I always felt that ME2 should have dealt with the Shadow Broker. If I was the Reapers, the first thing I would have had was a backup plan for Sovereign, the Shadow Broker would have been a perfect dangling plot to use for this. Do what the Dominion did in DS9 before they invaded. Weaken the each species by driving them apart and make they wage war. They both have mechanism that could easily facilitate it (Indoctrination vs Replacing people with Changlings).

It would have also let the Shadow Broker be a much more deep enemy than just Cerberus in ME3.

 

[Sai]

One thing about the universe kinda stuck out from the demo: apparently the ship attacking the reaper is a dreadnought. Which are, like, superrare according to ME1 (the Turians possess most, at 42 or 48, if I recall correctly). They are also kind of badass and such. Yet it doesn't do any damage to the reaper, whereas the original Normandy was able to kill one.

Er... Sovereign went through how many dreadnoughts at the Battle of the Citadel? The Reapers are still overwhelmingly superior to any single ship, no matter how large, or from what race.

And all the Normandy did was give Sovreign the finishing blow, it took a lot of sacrifices just to get it's kinetic barriers down.

 

[HooYaH]

Nope, should I? It was the only DLC I don't play.

Well, if you want to know why Shepard is on Earth and the answer to your question. Or you can just read it on a Wiki.

 

[ss_lemonade]

Anyone running into the same problem as me?

Using a 6970 here. Even updated to the latest drivers and it made no difference. Unless this is how the demo actually looks like lol

EDIT: Removed the tiny pic link. What's a good place to upload images? Anyway, the textures on my end just looks like smeared crap

Ok, here's an example of what I'm seeing in the demo

Bug?

 

[Synless]

Well, if you want to know why Shepard is on Earth and the answer to your question. Or you can just read it on a Wiki.

No, I know why's she's on earth. I'm just wondering why Cerberus let them take on of their greatest assets.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

what exactly are you referring to? It's been a long time since I played the ME1 endgame.

(they did rewrite the entire 'Mass Effect' for the sequel though, that I do remember. )

Ships don't open fire until they are within visual range, they all fire stupid missiles out of the railguns because the animators are giant derpheads. The closest thing to railgun fire is moving slow enough for you to see the individual slugs.

 

[LiK]

Ok, here's an example of what I'm seeing in the demo

Bug?

Definitely a bug. 360 didn't have that

 

[Psychoward]

Linky? I know the first one was, but I don't recognize the 2nd one.

Yeah, first one was from Shadow Broker, blanking out on the track names though.


Second one I'm pretty sure was from Arrival

 

[Iron_Scimitar]

The gun audio sounded better in ME2. Im hoping it'll sound better when the game is released.

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

Er... Sovereign went through how many dreadnoughts at the Battle of the Citadel? The Reapers are still overwhelmingly superior to any single ship, no matter how large, or from what race.

I haven't played that bit since ME1 was released to be honest, so I wouldn't know. I was under the impression that no dreadnought was available during that battle due to the short timetable, aside from the Destiny Ascension that is.

I also thought that Earth had about a dozen of them and that's it, so I would be kind of surprised if I had missed their appearance during the ending of ME1.

Ships don't open fire until they are within visual range, they all fire stupid missiles out of the railguns because the animators are giant derpheads. The closest thing to railgun fire is moving slow enough for you to see the individual slugs.

Ah. Not something I would notice without looking for it to be honest.

 

[cresto]

I don't like the multiplayer. Feels like a low budget Horde mode from Gears. Still pumped for the campaign.

Seriously? Wow

 

[LightofRohan]

The mp is pretty sweet actually. I only wanted to try it once, but kept playin. I look forward to leveling up some guys! Although I predict we'll see a lot of Drell Infiltrators.

 

[Psychoward]

Seriously? Wow

I actually agree, but I still love it.

 

[toastyToast]

The story in ME 2 was amazing, I have no idea what games you guys played.

It's going to be hard to find someone who'll agree with you.

 

[Equus Bellator Apex]

do we know how many discs its going to be on 360?

 

[RoboPlato]

The gun audio sounded better in ME2. Im hoping it'll sound better when the game is released.

I think it may just be the early game gun selection in the demo which is why they sound kind of weak. There are a lot more guns then in ME2 and all of them have multiple levels and attachments so I'm hoping some of the later ones sound more beefy.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Er... Sovereign went through how many dreadnoughts at the Battle of the Citadel? The Reapers are still overwhelmingly superior to any single ship, no matter how large, or from what race.

One, the Destiny Ascension, which didn't get a chance to fire on Soevereign itself. Sovvy completely ignored the Citadel defense fleet, didn't shoot at them and most of their fire was concentrated on the Geth armada. It tore up the Systems Alliance fleet, but that was only Cruisers and Frigates.

There were originally supposed to be human dreadnoughts in that cutscene, but they again fucked up and put like 20 human ships there, all the same size, all using the dreadnought models/textures. But since it was too late to change the cutscene, they said "oh, those are all cruisers, there were no dreadnoughts", because there were only supposed to be 7 human dreadnoughts total in the ME universe (Treaty of Fir-whatever-it's-called).

 

[Papercuts]

The story in ME 2 was amazing, I have no idea what games you guys played.

The overarching plot didn't add much at all compared to 1, but the individual stories of all the characters hit me a lot more than anything in 1 ever did.

 

[Emitan]

Ok, here's an example of what I'm seeing in the demo

Bug?

Feature.

 

[exmachina64]

It's going to be hard to find someone who'll agree with you.

I agree with him.

 

[Coxswain]

It's going to be hard to find someone who'll agree with you.

If 'story' refers only to things that have to do with the central conflict of Shepard Versus Reapers, then yes, Mass Effect 2 had a much worse story than Mass Effect 1. If 'story' refers to all of the writing and everything that happens in the game, though, Mass Effect 2 had a better story than Mass Effect 1. The kind of more intimate, localized issues you dealt with for most of ME2 were just more interesting than yet another ancient evil is awakening, and only you can epic stop it!! video game plot.

It wasn't great or anything, even by video game standards, and nothing stood out as much as the three or four dialogue/cutscene sequences that pretty much define everything that went right with ME1's story, but it's a lot more consistent, and I thought it was overall more fun to watch.

 

[chickdigger802]

Something I noticed. You know how in the cover, shepard has his gun and sword thing out?

In game, your gun disappears when you do your charged melee.

outrage!!!!

 

[mjp2417]

If 'story' refers only to things that have to do with the central conflict of Shepard Versus Reapers, then yes, Mass Effect 2 had a much worse story than Mass Effect 1. If 'story' refers to all of the writing and everything that happens in the game, though, Mass Effect 2 had a better story than Mass Effect 1. The kind of more intimate, localized issues you dealt with for most of ME2 were just more interesting than yet another ancient evil is awakening, and only you can epic stop it!! video game plot.

It wasn't great or anything, even by video game standards, and nothing stood out as much as the three or four dialogue/cutscene sequences that pretty much define everything that went right with ME1's story, but it's a lot more consistent, and I thought it was overall more fun to watch.

Pretty much nailed it.

 

[shinobi602]

It's going to be hard to find someone who'll agree with you.

I agree with him. Not "amazing", but I enjoyed it a lot. I think much of the complaints, while valid, are just way too nitpicky.

 

[Red Blaster]

Someone post smudboy's ME2 Plot Analysis

 

[Sai]

One, the Destiny Ascension, which didn't get a chance to fire on Soevereign itself. Sovvy completely ignored the Citadel defense fleet, didn't shoot at them and most of their fire was concentrated on the Geth armada. It tore up the Systems Alliance fleet, but that was only Cruisers and Frigates.

Really? Thought the Turians had invested a lot of their military power to protect the Citadel from Saren and the Geth, so I assumed at least one of their dreadnoughts should've been there... :|

 

[heliosRAzi]

Prologue

Sovereign’s plan has been foiled and all now recognize the apocalyptic threat facing the galaxy; but the Reapers still lurk in dark space, their unfathomable campaign of genocide delayed but undeterred. Shepard, savior of the Citadel and the Council’s finest agent, with the help of his loyal friends, must now find a way to stop them before...

[Bioware]: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[Harbinger]: zOMG SPACE BUGS!!1 LOL

*KABOOM*


Chapter 1: Project Lazarus Facility

[Miranda’s voice]: Wake up, Shepard! Killer robots are attacking this secure facility for no apparent reason. Please proceed immediately to the tutorial.

[Zombie Shepard]: Braaaiiiinss!

[Miranda’s voice]: Oh god, what have we done!

[Shepard]: Just kidding.

[Miranda’s voice]: Hurry, grab a weapon and thermal clip!

[Shepard]: (looks blankly at thermal clip) What the **** is this?

[Jacob]: You’ve been brought back at great cost as part of a classified project. I can tell you no more…I’m sworn to secrecy.

[Shepard]: Aw come on.

[Jacob]: Ok, fine, I’m with Cerberus. You may remember us as the terrorist organization that spent the last game conducting horrific experiments and trying to kill you.

[Shepard]: And I’m supposed to trust you?

[Jacob]: Well, we got better. Look, we have a cool logo now and team colors and everything.

[Shepard]: That seems like a good idea for a secret terrorist organization.

[Miranda]: Allow me to demonstrate how cold and ruthless I am by executing this traitor with my perfect, hot body that I will point out at every opportunity.

[Shepard]: Fortunately for the plot, all the blood has just left my brain.


Chapter 2: Cerberus Station

[Illusive Man]: Hello, Shepard. You spent the last game ruining my evil plans and killing dozens of my minions. I’ve decided to resurrect you so you can screw me over yet again.

[Shepard]: I hate you!

[Illusive Man]: 4 billion credits well spent.


Chapter 3: Freedom’s Progress

[Tali]: Shepard! You saved me!

[Shepard]: It’s good to see you Tali! Wow…so, um…wait, how old are you in Earth years now?

[Miranda]: I’m hotter!

[Tali]: My thread’s longer!

[Shepard]: Would it hurt my chances for a potential romance if I were to hand your traumatized friend over to Cerberus goons for interrogation?

[Tali]: Nah, it’s cool.

[Shepard]: Well, maybe I’ll see you around…

[Tali]: I hope so, but what are the chances I’ll need to be rescued again?


Interlude: Normandy

[Joker]: Look, commander! At last, the Normandy has been rebuilt! What an epic moment!

[Shepard]: Yeah, that’s something. It’s been…what? Almost half a day for me since the last one was arbitrarily destroyed?


Chapter 4: The Citadel

[Shepard]: So about those Reapers…

[Council]: Shepard, the man who personally saved our lives, and whose warnings proved to be 100% correct in the last game! Thank the gods you’ve returned! As the only one who has communed with the Prothean beacons and spoken directly to Sovereign, you may be our only hope of discovering a way to stop the Reapers, who showed up in person just 2 years ago to destroy our fleet and mate with our space station, and who could not possibly have been a product of the Geth. We’ll reinstate you as a Spectre immediately, of course, and start…

[Bioware]: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[Council]: Ah yes, “Reapers”…

[Shepard]: If they give me another chance to kill you in the next game, I’m taking it.

[Reporter]: Commander Shepard! You’re alive! Can I get a statement?

[Shepard]: I’ve had enough of your lackadaisical permutations! *PUNCH*

http://social.bioware.com/98918/blog/

 

[shinobi602]

Someone post smudboy's ME2 Plot Analysis

Already watched the whole lot of it and seen people's rebuttal of it too.

I literally did not care about 90% of the things he complained about. For example breather masks/exposed skin in a vacuum, I really could not give a shit! lol It had almost zero bearing on my enjoyment of the game.

 

[prwxv3]

Is it just me or are the controls much improved from ME 2?

 

[RoninChaos]

The beginning and the ending are ok, its the middle that is just mediocre imo. But its worth it if you like ME2 overall.



Sure, it might be better to wait for the real game before judging Bioware competence with PS3 hardware.

But what would you call the PS3 issue with Bethesda and Skyrim then, if not for the developper being just not that good with the hardware?

Thanks for the replies. I loved ME 2.

And the demo was kind meh. I kept rolling when I wanted to get behind cover at an angle. ANNOYING.

 

[Red Blaster]

Already watched the whole lot of it and seen people's rebuttal of it too.

I literally did not care about 90% of the things he complained about. For example breather masks/exposed skin in a vacuum, I really could not give a shit! lol It had almost zero bearing on my enjoyment of the game.

You mean rebuttals like this one which don't actually rebut anything?

ME2's turrible retconned mess of a plot is not mutually exclusive with my enjoyment of the game. I've been posting in the GAF Plays Mass Effect thread the past few weeks afterall.