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[Fuchsdh]

You have never seen the frame rate dip substantially? Forge World makes up 80% of the maps in matchmaking so I'm not sure how that's possible. Tempest, Anchor 9, every Firefight map, every Forge map, Zealot and Countdown, every BTB map, Condemned (low-grav room LOL) and basically every map in the game will break down. This is after Bungie promised a completely re-built engine to ~*push the boundaries*~ of the Xbox 360.

The difference between you and I is that you're willing to accept any frame drops as long as they're not "too bad", I want a rock solid, flawless framerate. I see stupid shit like mechs being built inside a level and just know when nades start raining and rockets are flying around that I'll be trying to snipe and it'll be crawling along at a cinematic frame rate. Hope I'm wrong.

Never in competitive (co-op is another story, so I hope that they switch over to the same model they use for competitive in Halo 4.)

What do you consider substantial? A lost frame or two isn't that noticeable, even at a 30fps running speed. I've *never* had a game where things lagged to the point that it affected actual gameplay, even in the low-grav room. The fact that I've only ever heard you complain this loudly about it makes me think this is atypical. Halo 3 will lag much easier and much more.

Not saying a framerate that stays solid isn't desirable. But I don't think things are half as bad as you make them out to be with every post.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

The fact that I've only ever heard you complain this loudly about it makes me think this is atypical.

Then you've missed many posts from many people, as lots of dis-satisfaction with the framerate has been mentioned.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Then you've missed many posts from many people, as lots of dis-satisfaction with the framerate has been mentioned.

My point is that this forum is hardly indicative of anything.

 

[Karl2177]

My point is that this forum is hardly indicative of anything.

So a small group of a valid criticism isn't valid. Good to know.

 

[erpg]

Framerate drops on console are bad, whether people are annoyed with them enough to complain on message boards or not. Shouldn't be shipped like that.

Like Halo Anniversary's co-op. We're having such a hard time going through that thing because of lag.

 

[Gazzawa]

Mass Effect 3 didn't arrive today in the post
I hope Xand doesn't get too mad and beat his wife because of it.
Looking forward to playing with da cru l8r

 

[heckfu]

My point is that this forum is hardly indicative of anything.

There is no way what you said could possibly correlate with what you meant :lol

 

[GhaleonEB]

Better to let them make up their own minds, when the time is right.

The time is right, David. The time is right.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Mass Effect 3 didn't arrive today in the post
I hope Xand doesn't get too mad and beat his wife because of it.
Looking forward to playing with da cru l8r

First he steals and now he's got a violent explosive temper?

He is not the man I met a long time ago.

 

[Hydranockz]

While framerate problems do exist in Reach, hyperbolic numbers like 8fps is a joke. That's some Fyrewulf grade-A bs right there.

Edit: Actually, that's implying Fyrewulf would have come up with such numbers, my bad

 

[Karl2177]

Mass Effect 3 didn't arrive today in the post
I hope Xand doesn't get too mad and beat his wife because of it.
Looking forward to playing with da cru l8r

Prepare for the worst. Xand's beaten wife coming to you forcing you to play the ending.

 

[kylej]

While framerate problems do exist in Reach, hyperbolic numbers like 8fps is a joke. that's some Fyrewulf grade-A bs right there.

Ok sorry, it hits 10fps.

 

[Hydranockz]

Ok sorry, it hits 10fps.

You took the time to count 'em? How cute

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Prepare for the worst. Xand's beaten wife coming to you forcing you to play the ending.

Domestic abuse is still better than that mass effect 3 ending.

Spoiler

P.s. I do no condone domestic abuse, and it was a bad joke.

That's what Rhianna said.

In the words of Xand, "ohhh, burned it!!!!!, bam!"

 

[Gazzawa]

First he steals and now he's got a violent explosive temper?

He is not the man I met a long time ago.

That's what Rhianna said.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

Domestic abuse is still better than that mass effect 3 ending.

Spoiler

P.s. I do no condone domestic abuse, and it was a bad joke.

Aren't they all pretty bad ?

 

[daedalius]

Aren't they all pretty bad ?

As if the different colors of space magic could be considered different' at all

 

[HiredN00bs]

There are specific locations, perspectives, and scenarios that will produce frame drops in Halo: Reach's adversarial multiplayer maps, and depending on how you play, your encounters with them can vary in occurrence from regularly to never at all.

Ideally, there shouldn't be any. It is a flaw in the design of the game, and it should be unacceptable, even if you don't encounter it often personally. However, it should also be recognized that these sorts of problems may not obviously manifest themselves until the developer is at a point in development in which there is not an elegant resolution, and fixing the problem means getting a little more optimization out of an engine that's already been squeezed dry and would need to be re-written, something that is unfeasible.

 

[Gabotron ES]

Aren't they all pretty bad ?

His name was Marauder Shields.

 

[Blue Ninja]

Anyone still need a Recon helmet for Reach? I have a code lying around that should work.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

As if the different colors of space magic could be considering 'different' at all

I was actually talking about Elzar's jokes being bad, but I guess it works both ways

His name was Marauder Shields.

I love that meme, have you seen the comics?

 

[Slightly Live]

There are specific locations, perspectives, and scenarios that will produce frame drops in Halo: Reach's adversarial multiplayer maps, and depending on how you play, your encounters with them can vary in occurrence from regularly to never at all.

Ideally, there shouldn't be any. It is a flaw in the design of the game, and it should be unacceptable, even if you don't encounter it often personally. However, it should also be recognized that these sorts of problems may not obviously manifest themselves until the developer is at a point in development in which there is not an elegant resolution, and fixing the problem means getting a little more optimization out of an engine that's already been squeezed dry and would need to be re-written, something that is unfeasible.

The average player doesn't care about development or the reasons why. They just play the game and encounter slowdown and wonder why it happens in this game when in the previous game they didn't see anything like it. Or how in other games they don't get slowdown at all.

Honestly, a game like Halo shouldn't have it. I'm not going to pretend like I know how the game is coded or what goes on in that particular area of development. I'm just talking from my expectations. Halo has the money and resources behind it that make any other franchises' fans envious. Why can't we expect the game to meet the same high standards set by previous games in the series at the very least?

Some grey blocks in a green field shouldn't make the framerate dip. Ever.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

His name was Marauder Shields.

...he wore some armor.
He was escorted to his chair, he saw Liara dancin' there
And when she finished, he called her over
But Shields went a bit too far, Shepard sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gun shot
But just who shot who?

(sing to Barry Manilow's her name was lola for full effect)

 

[kylej]

The average player doesn't care about development or the reasons why. They just play the game and encounter slowdown and wonder why it happens in this game when in the previous game they didn't see anything like it. Or how in other games they don't get slowdown at all.

Honestly, a game like Halo shouldn't have it. I'm not going to pretend like I know how the game is coded or what goes on in that particular area of development. I'm just talking from my expectations. Halo has the money and resources behind it that make any other franchises' fans envious. Why can't we expect the game to meet the same high standards set by previous games in the series at the very least?

Some grey blocks in a green field shouldn't make the framerate dip. Ever.

 

[Overdoziz]

Looking from tunnel to tunnel on Beaver Creek causes framedrops.
Looking through the middle on Condemned causes framedrops.
Looking to the middle from the top level on Prisoner causes framedrops.
Looking around zoomed in the a Sniper on Tempest will cause framedrops.
Flying over Breakpoint with a Falcon causes framedrops.
Looking anywhere on the Forge maps in matchmaking causes framedrops.

 

[TheOddOne]

 

[higherARC05]

I barely notice any framedrops when I play and then those few fps dros barely effected the gameplay.

As arnold would say, "quit your whinning!".

 

[ZalinKrow]

...he wore some armor.
He was escorted to his chair, he saw Liara dancin' there
And when she finished, he called her over
But Shields went a bit too far, Shepard sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gun shot
But just who shot who?

(sing to Barry Manilow's her name was lola for full effect)

Fixed

 

[Hydranockz]

The average player doesn't care about development or the reasons why. They just play the game and encounter slowdown and wonder why it happens in this game when in the previous game they didn't see anything like it. Or how in other games they don't get slowdown at all.

Honestly, a game like Halo shouldn't have it. I'm not going to pretend like I know how the game is coded or what goes on in that particular area of development. I'm just talking from my expectations. Halo has the money and resources behind it that make any other franchises' fans envious. Why can't we expect the game to meet the same high standards set by previous games in the series at the very least?

Some grey blocks in a green field shouldn't make the framerate dip. Ever.

Easily my biggest concern for 4. Engine optimisation is great and all but I want a quality game and I don't think getting more bang for my buck with a load of issues is going to please anyone.

 

[TheOddOne]

Easily my biggest concern for 4. Engine optimisation is great and all but I want a quality game and I don't think getting more bang for my buck with a load of issues is going to please anyone.

Mine too.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Change Miranda to Liara... then I shall be pleased. ‹3

Done.

Edit: You ask me to change it than fix it yourself! What is this?

You will be getting a stern letter from me today.

 

[Hypertrooper]

I'm playing Reach now. If anyone wants to join.

The time is right, David. The time is right.

Did you see that 343i? WE NEED NEWS!

 

[ZalinKrow]

Done.

Noooo I tried to edit mine in time D: I can't type fast enough on my 3DS *cries*.

 

[Stinkles]

Looking from tunnel to tunnel on Beaver Creek causes framedrops.
Looking through the middle on Condemned causes framedrops.
Looking to the middle from the top level on Prisoner causes framedrops.
Looking around zoomed in the a Sniper on Tempest will cause framedrops.
Flying over Breakpoint with a Falcon causes framedrops.
Looking anywhere on the Forge maps in matchmaking causes framedrops.

Adapt.

 

[heckfu]

I barely notice any framedrops when I play and then those few fps dros barely effected the gameplay.

As arnold would say, "quit your whinning!".

So what you're say as it didn't "effect" you then we shouldn't complain about it, something that plagues a ton of users on here? That's fine if that's what you're saying, I'm just making sure.

 

[RedSparrows]

Looking from tunnel to tunnel on Beaver Creek causes framedrops.
Looking through the middle on Condemned causes framedrops.
Looking to the middle from the top level on Prisoner causes framedrops.
Looking around zoomed in the a Sniper on Tempest will cause framedrops.
Flying over Breakpoint with a Falcon causes framedrops.
Looking anywhere on the Forge maps in matchmaking causes framedrops.

I've never noticed any of them. Not a single drop.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Noooo I tried to edit mine in time D: I can't type fast enough on my 3DS *cries*.

I can, now where is the 3DS that you promised me, I tried to keep it private, but that stunt you pulled was the last straw, now every one knows.

I've never noticed any of them. Not a single drop.

Apart from the breakpoint one, all of them happen, and happen consistently when I play.

 

[Overdoziz]

I barely notice any framedrops when I play and then those few fps dros barely effected the gameplay.

As arnold would say, "quit your whinning!".

Yeah I should stop complaining about the fact that in certain circumstances I can't kill someone because the framerate is cut in half.

Adapt.

 

[TS x Massacre]

Adapt.

Oh you.

 

[kylej]

Adapt.

Looks like they already did.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

Looks like they already did.

The actual list from about 2 weeks ago:
1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2. Call of Duty: Black Ops
3. FIFA 12
4. Battlefield 3
5. Halo: Reach
6. Modern Warfare 2
7. Mass Effect 3
8. NBA 2K12
9. Skyrim
10. Gears of War 3

Not as bad as your list but still a bit sad.

 

[TS x Massacre]

Yeah I should stop complaining about the fact that in certain circumstances I can't kill someone because the framerate is cut in half.

Yeah, can't count the times i've missed snipes down the street of Asylum because im zoomed in from the cubby and the framerate dips like a boss.

Yes, because of this i should snipe from somewhere else. However, it shouldnt be like that in a game.

 

[Trey]

Grandpa Reach still hanging with the big boys. CoD is ridiculous.

 

[Overdoziz]

Looks like they already did.

Boom.

 

[Hydranockz]

Boom.

Lol

 

[RedSparrows]

I hardly take the list of most played as a sign of quality.

I'd still play Reach over any of those other FPSs.

 

[Stinkles]

Looks like they already did.

Fine. News canceled. Ball taken home.

 

[Slightly Live]

Fine. News canceled. Ball taken home.

I wish this actually happened. lol They'd be calling for Kyle's head over on the Waypoint forums.

 

[Falagard]

Fine. News canceled. Ball taken home.

NOOOOOO!

 

[TheOddOne]

Fine. News canceled. Ball taken home.

kylej, what have you done?!