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Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power

TheOddOne

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Hyper and I are right regardless! WE WIN MUHAHHAHAHA.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Why are there so many Firefight challenges recently?

:/

Well Thursday is always firefight challenges. 30 minutes nets you 20-30k cR, plus whatever you add through custom challenges.

I really wish they'd trot out that Legendary co-op campaign more often. I don't really like Legendary Reach solo, and trying to vote for a Heroic or Legendary difficulty is hard when it's not a challenge (1 person will vote normal, the rest won't vote, default to norm!).
 

Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
Halogaf Release Date Contest
kylej - September 4th
neoism & Deputy Moonman - September 17th
Dug & Blue Ninja - September 18th
Plywood - September 24th
CyReN, Asklon & mastrbiggy - September 25th
Franklinator- October 2nd
Kittens & Hitmonchan107 - November 6
monsterfracas - October 9th
Homeboyd & Rand0m TAG - October 16th
ViewtifulJC,blamite & EdibleExplosives - October 23rd
FL1Psyde - October 30th
FateBreaker - November 2nd
WJD & Letters - November 6th
Steelyuhas,Der Flatulator & GarthVaderUK - November 13th
Biggest-Geek-Ever,VivaciousJazzy,zap & GhaleonEB - November 20th
Fathead & Ryaaan14 - November 27th
-Yeti & Hey You- December 4th
xxjuicesxx - December 11th
Hypertrooper & TheOddOne - Holiday 2012
Overdoz1z - February 13th

I think this is everyone, correct me if I missed you.

I would Say December....4th...
 

WJD

Member
Well Thursday is always firefight challenges. 30 minutes nets you 20-30k cR, plus whatever you add through custom challenges.

I really wish they'd trot out that Legendary co-op campaign more often. I don't really like Legendary Reach solo, and trying to vote for a Heroic or Legendary difficulty is hard when it's not a challenge (1 person will vote normal, the rest won't vote, default to norm!).

There's been a lot all week though unfortunately.
 

CyReN

Member
Then why advertise it as holiday?

To cover their asses and give people a timeline, MS isn't stupid. No way they are going mess with CoD (which is a HUGE title even if 3rd party) and they don't want to lose out on Black Friday sales with Halo 4 too. If it comes out after October 24th I'll be surprised.
 

monome

Member
I have Brotherhood. I skipped Revelations because it came out so close after Skyrim, and now I'm waiting on it to hit €20 before AC3 comes out. So far, it hasn't happened here.

And somebody please explain to me why everybody's foaming at the mouth about that H4 soundtrack sample. It does absolutely nothing for me.

Revelations is okay, was a bit burned when I started playing but got back in the groove.

Halo 4 music does one thing better than previous Halos to me, the use of soft electronic music.
Otherwise the music heard yesterday was good, but too cinematical to my taste. I could picture Jack Sparrow so much it tended to be generic movie score. But that was a taste and I really love the concept trailer music so I'm hopefull they give me something unique.

Then why advertise it as holiday?
Damage control.
They want it known the game ships in 2012 but cannot yet fix a date.
Many holiday games will ship before november this year.

Halo 4 has to find a date where it doesn't suffer from CoD and WiiU too much and they have to commit to a marketing schedule before the date is fixed.

Hopefully I have a month between buying a WiiU and a Forerunner themed XBOX360 ;-)
 
Revelations is okay, was a bit burned when I started playing but got back in the groove.

Halo 4 music does one thing better than previous Halos to me, the use of soft electronic music.
Otherwise the music heard yesterday was good, but too cinematical to my taste. I could picture Jack Sparrow so much it tended to be generic movie score. But that was a taste and I really love the concept trailer music so I'm hopefull they give me something unique.

Yes, this. Just give me more of that concept trailer music and I won't have anything to complain about.
 

Striker

Member
Map quotes!

am i the only one that loved colossus? i never hear it mentioned in favorites lists (or, unfavorites even)
Loved that map, and worked in lots of gametypes/playlists: Snipers, Team Skirmish, Team Rifles - just really good for 4v4 or 6v6.

Please don't taint good maps with AAs, thanks.
Agreed, but even with AA's, look at Pinnacle. Ascension was a decent map but one key element in many playlists for it was the overshield. With its absence in Reach, that walkway is empty, and is just in general a place for players to spawn in. I used to take that route every time, no matter if we were red or blue in H2.

With the exception of Beaver Creek or Sidewinder I don't want to see any more CE remakes.
Wizard, Blood Gulch, and Battle Creek were remade so brilliantly in 2. But with things like a jetpack (thruster?) and Camo, it makes it very wonky. With no sprint, AA's, and just the great Halo base traits, Warlock, for instance, is fantastic. There's so many good maps in the series, but they wouldn't be that way if they had jetpacks and people using camo whenever they damn well please. Blackout was terrible, but equipment also ruined it. Regen sat near BR tower, and what happens when you hit the guy with one shot left before they should die? There ya go.

Making maps with AA loadouts restricted is one hope I have. No reason the jetpack should have ever been available in Reflection, for example.
 

monome

Member
Yes, this. Just give me more of that concept trailer music and I won't have anything to complain about.

That 343i chose Davidge for his competence in mixing organic and electronic sounds is a clear indication that the concept trailer music is not a happy mistake. And I'll be cheering, fragging and grenading all through the generic score anyway.

Those melancholic blippy sounds at the end of the trailer, I could listen to them all day.
They strike me as being the echo of the Forerunners' voice : strong yet soft, peacefull yet meant as a warning, fading through time yet unable to let go.
 
Definitely won't be December 4th, they'd be crazy to miss Thanksgiving.

In the interest of partaking: November 20th.
I want to believe it'll be then. Give CoD the first week in November or last week in October.
Hopefully Acti would accept that without throwing a hissy fit.

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Have become less happy about the 1:32 Stereotypical Action Movie trailer bit in the song sample. Really reminds me of the BF3 marketing.
 

The Crawf

Member
So has anyone picked up the new Edge yet? Is it worth having a hunt for it on my way home?

Just had a browse through it WHSmith at lunchtime. Only 2 pages, no new images, most are screencaps from the 1st look video. Didn't stand there and read it, so I dont know if there is any new info.
 
So has anyone picked up the new Edge yet? Is it worth having a hunt for it on my way home?

I looked through it yesterday. The Halo 4 preview is two pages with no new information. Highly disappointing.

Love the music released yesterday but then i've loved all the Halo 4 music released so far. I definitely feel the ost is in good hands.

Also, fuck MLG from now on. Their complete abandonment of Halo on their website is digusting, I don't care if the event numbers are low, you don't start treating it like the fat friend you're embarressed to be seen in public with after one poor season. I really hope another league forms for competitive Halo if MLG are done taking it seriously as appears to be the case.
 

monome

Member
Have become less happy about the 1:32 Stereotypical Action Movie trailer bit in the song sample. Really reminds me of the BF3 marketing.

Well, I stand by you BUT :

they need music for the trailers, and so trailers will be cinematic.
Halo 4 is meant for the largest crowd, and is not a purer than Halo CE Halo, so expect cinematic stuff in your Halo. I beleieve it won't deral tha game's openness, just like upgrading armor won't be a perk system.

Most of the time you'll be hearing gun shots, lasers, explosions and chatter with Cortana.

Frankie listens and knows we want no Jack Sparrow in our Halo.

They're keeping Halo 4 close to the chest, so the best is yet to come.

What do you want?
Me, I want more electronic blippy sounds and some of the electronic stuff that was very subdued in the remix.

Also, fuck MLG from now on.

Yes
 

JonCha

Member
I looked through it yesterday. The Halo 4 preview is two pages with no new information. Highly disappointing.

To be fair, they are a magazine so they're always going to be behind. The news is about as up-to-date as it can be.

Hopefully 343 will be at the Eurogamer Expo later this year, because I'll be there. And I want to play Halo 4.

Edit: going for 20th September release. Would be very surprised if it launched in November.
 
MLG Question:
I'm seeing plenty of PS3 sponsorship on the homepage of the website. Have Sony stepped up where MS haven't?
I can see MS knowing that they have the U.S. and the age group locked down feel they (possibly rightly) don't need to chase that crowd, at least through MLG, while Sony, who desperately need that crowd to eat into MS's market share.

Of course once next-gen prep is fully in place, MS will be back and begging for coverage to get those people on.
 

CyReN

Member
MLG Question:
I'm seeing plenty of PS3 sponsorship on the homepage of the website. Have Sony stepped up where MS haven't?
I can see MS knowing that they have the U.S. and the age group locked down feel they (possibly rightly) don't need to chase that crowd, at least through MLG, while Sony, who desperately need that crowd to eat into MS's market share.

Of course once next-gen prep is fully in place, MS will be back and begging for coverage to get those people on.

I don't know any of MS backing, I believe they did it for sure for Halo/3 but unsure about Halo Reach. With PS3 they had a sponsorship last year for CoD Black Ops (even though it's a "360 game") and it seems to have a carried over this year since all the fighting games on PS3. Sony also has a booth at the events and usually a Uncharted tournament.

I haven't really seen much of Microsoft at the events besides a "celebrity" Gears of War tourney like in 07'.
 
Season Pass-Age.
I hope, if it does happen for Halo 4, and I'd say it's fairly safe to say it will, that 343 can match Epic's value/roi.
I don't know any of MS backing, I believe they did it for sure for Halo/3 but unsure about Halo Reach. With PS3 they had a sponsorship last year for CoD Black Ops (even though it's a "360 game") and it seems to have a carried over this year since all the fighting games on PS3. Sony also has a booth at the events and usually a Uncharted tournament.

I haven't really seen much of Microsoft at the events besides a "celebrity" Gears of War tourney like in 07'.
Hmm. I'd bet this makes it an easier decision for MLG Management.
No money from MS, dwindled community, lower tier title, they could feel actively empowered to push Halo aside.

They shouldn't, as whatever about it's current $-value to their accounts, it's a key component of their brand. MLG & Halo is a bit synonymous.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid $-return is what really needs to change before they bother to care for it again.
 
Spent the last couple of hours trying to catch up on as much Halo 4 info as possible. Can't say I'm hugely excited but to be honest I'm so far past playing it competitively, as long as it keeps me coming back for more i'd be happy.

The system of COD ranking got old fast for me, but it seems that the public lap it up so its only inevitable that other publishers would push for it.
 

CyReN

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Season Pass-Age.
I hope, if it does happen for Halo 4, and I'd say it's fairly safe to say it will, that 343 can match Epic's value/roi.

Hmm. I'd bet this makes it an easier decision for MLG Management.
No money from MS, dwindled community, lower tier title, they could feel actively empowered to push Halo aside.

They shouldn't, as whatever about it's current $-value to their accounts, it's a key component of their brand. MLG & Halo is a bit synonymous.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid $-return is what really needs to change before they bother to care for it again.

The problem with the competitive Halo community is how it was handled by MLG. People always wonder why we have no community outside MLG and other things. MLG had a INCREDIBLE hold by buying small tournaments, hiring, destroying other leagues etc and having a monopoly for that. They would sign players (PPA) and have restrict them from competing at other major events, restricting sponsors and so many other things. Suddenly they bring in other games, cancel the PPA and the Halo community in shambles. It's a lesson learned if any and is in a "rebuilding" mode. As for MLG Columbus that was all the Halo community, MLG put minimal effort at best towards making that work besides announcing it. The only glimmer of hope right now is Halo 4 being incredibly competitive and a success for casual gamers. If we get another Reach we are dead.

Some of this could be wrong, but I have very very reliable sources.
 

Risen

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The problem with the competitive Halo community is how it was handled by MLG. People always wonder why we have no community outside MLG and other things. MLG had a INCREDIBLE hold by buying small tournaments, hiring, destroying other leagues etc and having a monopoly for that. They would sign players (PPA) and have restrict them from competing at other major events, restricting sponsors and so many other things. Suddenly they bring in other games, cancel the PPA and the Halo community in shambles. It's a lesson learned if any and is in a "rebuilding" mode. As for MLG Columbus that was all the Halo community, MLG put minimal effort at best towards making that work besides announcing it. The only glimmer of hope right now is Halo 4 being incredibly competitive and a success. If we get another Reach we are dead.

Some of this could be wrong, but I have very very reliable sources.

After seeing the last RedBull LAN, part of me hopes someone... like say RedBull, starts a league. I enjoyed their production much more than MLG events I've streamed through the years. It was a clear step up.
 
The problem with the competitive Halo community is how it was handled by MLG. People always wonder why we have no community outside MLG and other things. MLG had a INCREDIBLE hold by buying small tournaments, hiring, destroying other leagues etc and having a monopoly for that. They would sign players (PPA) and have restrict them from competing at other major events, restricting sponsors and so many other things. Suddenly they bring in other games, cancel the PPA and the Halo community in shambles. It's a lessor learned if any and is in a "rebuilding" mode. The only glimmer of hope right now is Halo 4 being incredibly competitive and a success. If we get another Reach we are dead.
But I assume the RoI is better for SC2 (and Sony sponsorship) than the PPA was?

If Halo 4 doesn't catch in general, then the brand would likely be in trouble. I do think if H4 didn't catch with MLG it could be fixed next time around. The long term community would be dead, but with money it's easily enough to get something visibility at least e.g. Uncharted 3 being on the MLG main page
 

JonCha

Member
The problem with the competitive Halo community is how it was handled by MLG. People always wonder why we have no community outside MLG and other things. MLG had a INCREDIBLE hold by buying small tournaments, hiring, destroying other leagues etc and having a monopoly for that. They would sign players (PPA) and have restrict them from competing at other major events, restricting sponsors and so many other things. Suddenly they bring in other games, cancel the PPA and the Halo community in shambles. It's a lesson learned if any and is in a "rebuilding" mode. As for MLG Columbus that was all the Halo community, MLG put minimal effort at best towards making that work besides announcing it. The only glimmer of hope right now is Halo 4 being incredibly competitive and a success for casual gamers. If we get another Reach we are dead.

Some of this could be wrong, but I have very very reliable sources.

Didn't someone from MLG say Halo was a let down or something? With all the change MLG made to the Reach formula, I've wondered how much impact the unbalanced main game has had on Halo's reputation.
 
After seeing the last RedBull LAN, part of me hopes someone... like say RedBull, starts a league. I enjoyed their production much more than MLG events I've streamed through the years. It was a clear step up.

Agreed. top quality production values and a nicely organised site made watching it a joy.
 

CyReN

Member
But I assume the RoI is better for SC2 (and Sony sponsorship) than the PPA was?

If Halo 4 doesn't catch in general, then the brand would likely be in trouble. I do think if H4 didn't catch with MLG it could be fixed next time around. The long term community would be dead, but with money it's easily enough to get something visibility at least e.g. Uncharted 3 being on the MLG main page

Starcraft 2 is a huge title for MLG, it's just in a weird place. Theirs forums tshirts, "cover boys" are or where all Halo. Now what lol? Just very weird and sad place.


Didn't someone from MLG say Halo was a let down or something? With all the change MLG made to the Reach formula, I've wondered how much impact the unbalanced main game has had on Halo's reputation.

That was Sundance (CEO), but again he was the head guy that didn't want to implement no bloom that would have a made a big difference last year few events (imo at least)
 

Shadders

Member
The Thursday War is out on October 2nd and leads right into Halo 4, so it'll have to launch at least a couple of weeks after that.

I reckon Microsoft might be up for a brawl with CoD (however ill-advised that may be) and will launch on November 7th. I think Shake Appeal is on to something with the 11/7 - 117 connection. Marketing will love that, would allow for a really nice ending to an advert. Extreme zoom and freeze-frame on the 117 on Chief's suit, have it fade out to leave just the lettering, then fade in with the slashes and 2012.
 
The Thursday War is out on October 2nd and leads right into Halo 4, so it'll have to launch at least a couple of weeks after that.

I reckon Microsoft might be up for a brawl with CoD (however ill-advised that may be) and will launch on November 7th. I think Shake Appeal is on to something with the 11/7 - 117 connection. Marketing will love that, would allow for a really nice ending to an advert. Extreme zoom and freeze-frame on the 117 on Chief's suit, have it fade out to leave just the lettering, then fade in with the slashes and 2012.
I formally request to be put down for 11/7!
 

WJD

Member
How does everyone think 343 would have to go about bringing back Team Objective? Was it just the AA's that killed it in Reach?

and by bringing back I mean making it a popular playlist again.
 
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