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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?

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feel

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It's just disappointment after disappointment with the franchise nowadays. Fuck this shit I wish I could just stop caring and quit it.
 
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Homeboyd

Member
zlatko said:
Stop being the voice of reason.

I want to see this crazy train derail and hit into a mountain. LET THE CHAOS INSUE!
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lol it is entertaining...

But I can imagine we'd hear a bit more about the game from time to time in here if we weren't shitting on it constantly. I don't know.. maybe they don't care. Tough skin and all that.
 
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zlatko

Banned
Letters said:
It's just disappointment after disappointment with the franchise nowadays. Fuck this shit I wish I could just stop caring and quit it.
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You think Reach to 4 is a disappointment already?

You haven't seen disappointment till you play Final Fantasy XI online for 6 years on and off, get hyped to fuck for it's sequel with FF14, then buy the collectors edition at launch only to realize it's not even in alpha stage. A ghost of a game. Shit upon shit.

Call me when you have that kind of experience. We'll talk and comfort each other. Until then, wait till you play it or at least see it in action with people explaining more of its logistics.

In Frankie/343 we trust.
 
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Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Letters said:
It's just disappointment after disappointment with the franchise nowadays. Fuck this shit I wish I could just stop caring and quit it.
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BackdoorBeauty

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Homeboyd said:
Motherfuckers gettin' salty in this bitch.

I know it's Gaf, but damn. I haven't heard of one person who has played the game that said they were worried about all the controversial things we've read about. They all say it plays great and every time we read something that sounds concerning, someone who's played the game (or worked on the game) jumps in soothes the nerves. I know it won't work with everyone, but from what I've seen here (and in various other communities), the guys who are most vocal about how they hate something they read about in Halo 4 end up being ok after being talked down off the ledge with some clarifications here and there.

As soon as we start getting some videos, nerves will calm for most and we'll be stoked, yes stoked, to get our hands on it.

Can't wait to *see* more.
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Everything is great when its new, that is why you don't hear anything bad about it. This is also the reason why I've had 20 or 40 different girlfriends since 2001.

I fell in love with the Reach beta, but I had to break up with her after a few months post release. Sometimes we get back together for a few weeks, but we know we aren't right for each-other.

I slept with Halo 3 for years, though. That was some good pussy.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
Shitting on things we don't like is the only way change can happen in society. Some people do with protests, others do with riots, and even a few special people do "herp derp it's lik dat one other popular game where you wape the noobs bra". But if you feel something is wrong, you can express it. This is America damnit, but importantly...

This is NeoGaf, dude.
 
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kylej

Banned
BackdoorBeauty said:
I fell in love with the Reach beta, but I had to break up with her after a few months. Sometimes we get back together for a few weeks, but we know we aren't right for each-other.

I slept with Halo 3 for years, though. That was some good pussy.
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Some of us can spot the crazies from a mile away.
 
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heckfu

Banned
This place is AWESOME today.

Everyone who has played it likes it. I think we'll all make it through this alive, we just have to help each other and hold hands.
 
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blamite

Member
Probably gonna join in on Halo 2 if I can find a controller solution. Do 3rd party wired controllers work with the PC too, or only official Microsoft ones?
 
MrGreencastle

MrGreencastle

Member
5-shot BR.

Does it shoot faster than in Halo 3? I'm just happy that's it's back, to be honest. I was playing Halo 3 last night, and I forgot how much more I enjoy that game than Reach. The maps are just much more memorable in my opinion, and from what I've seen with the two 343 have shown, that seems to be the case with 4 as well.

I can adapt to 5 shot kills. Bloom on weapons doesn't really bother me all that much, as long as it's tight like TU Reach. Honestly, after playing Halo 2, and 3 as much as I did, and not really enjoying Reach as much (I still like it, though), I really want this game to be different than the past few Halo games. Keep the staples, like the BR, jumping, etc, but then go crazy and change it up. Honestly, I'm just excited - even if it may not be very good (which I doubt from what I've seen at this point).

Then again, I would really have to try this game out to form a better opinion on the matter, anyway.


GhaleonEB said:
It's happy to see you?

Did anyone else raise an eyebrow at Forerunner vision being renamed Promethean vision?
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Yeah I thought that was interesting. Hopefully they explain that to people in game, because I don't think it's common knowledge.
 
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Hypertrooper

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ViewtifulJC said:
Shitting on things we don't like is the only way change can happen in society. Some people do with protests, others do with riots, and even a few special people do "herp derp it's lik dat one other popular game where you wape the noobs bra". But if you feel something is wrong, you can express it. This is America damnit, but importantly...

This is NeoGaf, dude.
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There is a difference. You can complain the look of the game, the sound. But not the gameplay if you have not played it. Right now, you have to trust 343i.

You can not lecture someone about Einstein's Relativity Theory without reading it for yourself. So if you feel bloom is wrong, how do you feel it is wrong? You fear because of the results you saw in Reach. But I think 343i did see the problem with it too. (hopefully).

Shit why I am writing this useless post.


GhaleonEB said:
It's happy to see you?

Did anyone else raise an eyebrow at Forerunner vision being renamed Promethean vision?
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Hypertrooper said:
Thanks for the short write-up. It sounds great for me. Especially that the Forerunner Vision is actually called Promethean Vision. :)
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op_ivy

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MrGreencastle said:
5-shot BR.
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based on the fact that weapon tuning is a work in progress (confirmed) and that this is based on a very limited time initial playtest, i wouldnt bank too heavily on the accuracy of 5-shot kills for dmr/br and 6-shot for pistol. i have a hard time believing this was thoroughly tested under the conditions.
 
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m23

Member
I'm not so sure about some of the details, but I'll wait to see some gameplay or play it myself before I say its shit or amazing. People who've played it have loved it so that's a good sign.
 
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Hypertrooper

Member
Not just posting to rub it in (LOL) but I also wanted to share some relevant info. I just played multiplayer on two maps and watched Frankie play campaign (just up to the first battle with the Covenant on the Forward Unto Dawn.) Also attending were Louis Wu and Mig from HBO. Talked to Frankie for a while too. Good times.

First multi-player:
-Frankie said the build was a month old but had some patches in the meantime.
-We played on two maps- Warhouse and Wraparound (according to Wu)
-It looks excellent. Whatever they did to the engine appears to have increased sharpness and resolution considerably.
-Sound was a bit wonky in this build, but game play was already pretty solid.
-Having sprint as standard totally makes sense.
-Look sensitivity is higher now. It defaulted to 5 and I had to knock it down to 3.
-Had loads of fun with the DMR. It made me feel like a halfway decent player for a moment, before several of the NFL guys who were there got into the game and destroyed me. Don't get too close with it though or it becomes unwieldy.
-I found movement and weapon control to be very fluid. Wu had more problems for some reason. Possibly because he kept pressing crouch by accident! LOL.
-This Promethean Vision thing is a gas. Not sure how much it helps see through walls etc. but it looks great. Machinima uses will abound. Mig called it "Moebius Vision" (after the recently departed sci-fi graphic novel artist/writer.)

And campaign:
Can't say too much about this as Frank only played the first 10 minutes. The opening is beautiful. As you probably know, we start on the Forward Unto Dawn where we last saw MC and Cortana hunkerin' down for a long wait. It's 4 years later and she is panicking and wakes him up. He's all grumpy and has to go fight a bunch of Covvies who have boarded.
There are some cool player controlled bits like climbing a ladder rung by rung with the ability to jump over to other places on the way to avoid falling debris. Very cool. Then the familiar battling of grunts and elites, all of whom got nice armor upgrades in the interim.
Cortana looks quite different and far more human. A little less glowy and maybe slightly younger.

Go check Louis Wu's write up. I think he said a lot of the same stuff but probably with much more knowledge than I have!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37308753&postcount=8769
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http://www.thisspartanlife.com/forums/index.php/topic,5655.0.html
 
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Trey

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Hypertrooper said:
There is a difference. You can complain the look of the game, the sound. But not the gameplay if you have not played it. Right now, you have to trust 343i.

You can not lecture someone about Einstein's Relativity Theory without reading it for yourself. So if you feel bloom is wrong, how do you feel it is wrong? You fear because of the results you saw in Reach. But I think 343i did see the problem with it too. (hopefully).

Shit why I am writing this useless post.
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Actually, giving feedback (no matter how whiny some make it sound) is more constructive than just sitting back and trusting the developer to deliver what you want.
 
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NullPointer

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This Spartan Life said:
- This Promethean Vision thing is a gas. Not sure how much it helps see through walls etc. but it looks great. Machinima uses will abound. Mig called it "Moebius Vision" (after the recently departed sci-fi graphic novel artist/writer.)
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OK, now I'm dying to see how this looks.
 
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Hypertrooper

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Trey said:
Actually, giving feedback (no matter how whiny some make it sound) is more constructive than just sitting back and trusting the developer to deliver what you want.
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But how should I criticize something if I do not know how it plays? The only thing you can complain right now is that 343i does not clarify these controversial points. Or the look. But in terms for Gameplay, I do think that at this point you can only complain if you played the game. But you can say that you fear this feature.
 
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Steelyuhas

Member
op_ivy said:
based on the fact that weapon tuning is a work in progress (confirmed) and that this is based on a very limited time initial playtest, i wouldnt bank too heavily on the accuracy of 5-shot kills for dmr/br and 6-shot for pistol. i have a hard time believing this was thoroughly tested under the conditions.
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Yeah I gotta agree.

We have seen that the BR has 36 rounds per clip, or 12 bursts. A 4sk makes for an 3 kills per clip, a 5sk makes 2 and change, which is just odd, especially considering that we have seen the DMR with a 15 round clip, which would also give it 3 kills per clip if it's a 5sk. You would assume as both of the main UNSC starting rifles in the game (that we know about), they would both have 3 kills per clip.

As for the Magnum, I have a hard time believing it's a 6sk with a 8 round clip though, 5sk with 8 rounds is useless enough, 6 is just silly.

We'll have to wait and see. Needs footage and infos straight from the 343!
 
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kylej

Banned
Hypertrooper said:
But how should I criticize something if I do not know how it plays? The only thing you can complain right now is that 343i does not clarify these controversial points. Or the look. But in terms for Gameplay, I do think that at this point you can only complain if you played the game. But you can say that you fear this feature.
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I don't need to eat a turd to know it tastes bad.
 
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Sai-kun

Banned
heckfu said:
This place is AWESOME today.

Everyone who has played it likes it. I think we'll all make it through this alive, we just have to help each other and hold hands.
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uhhhh i'm not holding hands w/ any of y'all

gosh :3

so stalker and i were talking today while (not) playing and he convinced me to go looking for flights to PAX....so my question is, how much do hotels/a place to stay (that are near the con center) cost? Flying out to seatac from chicago and back is around $450 from what I found in a quick search, might be able to find something cheaper but I'm not sure. Either way it's a bit pricey with just that. I'd also need to (obviously) get a pass for the con, and I don't know how much that is.

Thanks in advance for any tips/help :)
 
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HiredN00bs

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Halo 4 sounds more complex than Reach. It adds a new action button with ubiquitous Sprint (after Reach already added one for Armor Ability) and it has bloom, recoil, and spread.

I like the complexity Reach added, but won't making gameplay more complex steepen the learning curve for new players? I know there are other things, like the changes outlined in GI's reporting, that are being done in consideration for newbies, but minding the complexity of gameplay is of paramount importance in promoting accessibility.
 
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