AllIsOneIsNone
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Blizzard is going to do whatever is necessary to keep the in game market strong. Man, imagine the possibilities of an internally controlled economy; theyll probably do some sketchy shit in order to maximize profit.
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Blizzard is going to do whatever is necessary to keep the in game market strong. Man, imagine the possibilities of an internally controlled economy; theyll probably do some sketchy shit in order to maximize profit.
I await the monsters that drain a % of your gold stash per hit.
The dreaded Koticker.
Those would be the Inferno monsters that kill you in one hit.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Oh my God haha
AllIsOneIsNone
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That made me think, maybe theyre holding off on pvp to see how they can profit off that. Pvp prized tournaments would be pretty cool, but man, the balance you would have to account for.
They allready said they DON'T want to go a esport LoL kinda direction with PvP.
AndersTheSwede
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If you expect sketchy shit, you will get it.
I KNOW I wont get sketchy shit: I will therefore not experience it.
Also, Blizzard never really nerfed the hard mode raids to the ground, the hardest content always were hard to access, ALWAYS. Normal modes get nerfed to hell and back - Diablo III already has normal, slightly harder, hard and hardest mode, so this "let us see the encounter" whining has no ground AT ALL - everyone will see every content by the end of Normal, simple as that.
bengraven
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I know you guys hate this thing popping up and I'm sorry, but I wanted to add myself.
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Are we sure our beta tags are going to remain the same?
Edit: oh, nvm, I put my SCII tag up there.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
It's a Battle.net tag, not a beta tag, so yes!
FrontalMonk
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The funny thing is that even if they did they would likely have to make it even _harder_ when they release an expansion if they increase the level cap. Think about it, if they up the level cap to like 70 then Inferno would have to start at 71 and it would be just as ridiculous.
bengraven
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Ah, okay, so it should be the same as my SCII one then. Nice.
Yep. Blizzard knows its shit.
LowParry
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If the mass crowds cry foul for it to be nerfed, it will happen in D3. See: Cataclysm.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Diablo 3 could've been released 24th December and I would still prioritize it over anything else... fuck my life ._.
It's a week after finals for me, so I can't even study to kill time!
Uhm, sorry, but what? Cataclysm hard modes are still not dumbed down to the level of non-hardcore players. So, what is Cataclysm an example of regarding Inferno nerf?
FrontalMonk
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this is most likely.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I don't see the connection here. Many Cataclysm encounters are/were still hard when it was content, even with nerfs. Casuals can't do shit.
LowParry
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When Cataclysm first came out, that first month of instances were nothing but pure bitching from the casual side of things. Eventually there were nerfs put in place to make the content more easier. If Inferno does the same, I expect the same response. To say that Cataclysm instances now are just as hard as they were when they first came out is crazy. The differences are big. Hardmodes is a different story.
FieryBalrog
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Inferno IS a hardmode.
Hardmode Dragon Soul came out way after all the bitching. It was easier than HM Firelands for sure, but it still wasn't anything for the casuals AT ALL, and in any case HM Firelands was already the hardest raid in the freaking game.
Hardmodes is not a different story.
It is the equivalent of Inferno.
Not sure why we need to draw paralells with WoW just because - not quite the same development team, after all -, but luckily, there is a way to do some comparisons.
Normal -> 5 man
Nightmare - 5 man heroic
Hell -> 10/25 man raiding
Inferno -> 10/25 man hard modes.
Nightmare just assumes you either have some gear OR you know what to do.
Hell assumes you have a minimum amount of gear that is sufficient for clearing content AND you know what do do most of the time.
Inferno assumes you are not one to make many mistakes, gear optimally, and have a mindset that learns from mistakes, not whine about them.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I would literally break everything in my room.
Eh, who am I kidding. I'll be doing that no matter what.
A lot of people will have stopped before reaching Inferno anyway. This mode is for those that will put in the time and expect a challenge. I want it to be impossible. I want to feel extremely satisfied defeating SK after my 50th try. Besides, if Hell is anything like Hell in D2, then we should be worrying about finishing that first. 
Updated Battletag list up to #12481.
Updated Battletag list up to #12481.
Exactly, going through the game 3 times just to reach inferno will already be for the few.
Alex
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I can't think of anything off hand that is more toothless than 99% of the content in WoW, and its getting even easier next expansion so it's probably not the best idea to draw parallels, especially when raid difficulty almost entirely stems from the babysitting aspect anyhow. They hardcoded some pretty extreme mindlessness and positive reinforcement into the DNA of that game ages ago and weren't able to revert it so its just a different experience in most regards.
You'd probably just get people angry by reducing that kind of affair in Diablo, unless it was something entirely broken, heck wasnt it added because people were worried the game would be overly easy nonsense?
You'd probably just get people angry by reducing that kind of affair in Diablo, unless it was something entirely broken, heck wasnt it added because people were worried the game would be overly easy nonsense?
You are trying to equate 5 man heroics to the bloody hardmode end game of D3. HM 25m Firelands/Dragonsoul is == Inferno....
I will be absolutely shocked if PvP content isn't monetized somehow. I could see them doing another arena server pass like they have for WoW. Or maybe they could just save it for the inevitable boxed expansion.
They already said they dont want D3 to be an esport.
It makes perfect sense for Blizz to differentiate between which crowds D3 and WoW cater to, wish people would stop assuming just cause one does something the other will too.
D3 is its own game with its own philosophy behind it, just like SC2.
It makes perfect sense for Blizz to differentiate between which crowds D3 and WoW cater to, wish people would stop assuming just cause one does something the other will too.
D3 is its own game with its own philosophy behind it, just like SC2.
FieryBalrog
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They don't need to separately monetize PvP- it's already built right into the RMAH. In fact, putting a money barrier to PvP would be stupid. They want everyone to get into PvP, so that they will want to get PvP loot, which will drive RMAH sales.
I believe the PvP design doc called for gear matching- may have been implemented in the arenas they showed off at events, not sure- although I don't know quite how that would work in Diablo.
I believe the PvP design doc called for gear matching- may have been implemented in the arenas they showed off at events, not sure- although I don't know quite how that would work in Diablo.
I think PVP will be monetized enough by the fact that viability will largely depend on having the right equipment (not that equipment will do the work for you, but still).
I could see them instituting wager matches to make things interesting though. As long as you're wagering gold, it shouldn't be gambling (or is it? IANAL).
Im just saying in general not to you specifically.
CarbonatedFalcon
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I think that's what LordCanti meant - that to have the best gear to be competitive for PvP, you'd need to spend money (or a ton of gold) in the auction house.
Not that they'd charge you to play PvP.
Right. If someone has gear designed to help them live through hoards doing the kind of damage that is done in Inferno, there's no way you're going to kill them with your hell level kit. That'll keep people spending large amounts of money on Inferno gear, which will make Blizzard a lot of money.
My guess: A DVD with an out-of-date client and a Product Key.
If you've got the bandwidth to download it, just go Digital.
Again, this is only a POOMA guess...
If its like the SC2 copy it'll have a DVD, cd key and some trial keys for Wow, SC2 and maybe Diablo 3 if there's going to be a trial version of it. Personally I'd go with retail seeing as its €60 for a copy on Bnet and €40 from gamestop.
LordCanti wasn't one of the people I was talking about. The people who think they're going to charge for PvP are also the ones LordCanti was replying to.
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