abstract alien
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Let the Prime Saga die already. First person or not, start up Metroid Dread or Metroid ______. Some other story that isn't Prime.
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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!
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Annoyingly,that makes a whole bunch of sense. Nintendo did make a point of saying they were focusing purely on launch/window (4months) which implied they were not keen to show us things too far down the line. Showing a teaser for a distant (12 months+) game would have undermined this approach. Then again I've never expected retros game to be out any earlier than late 2013 anyway. Maybe we'll see this pulled e3 teaser on 13th Sept, but it'll be nothing more than a brief trailer imo.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Would be 100x better than another generic shooter on the market.
fabricated backlash
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I'd say give Retro Metroid V. I don't want Sakamoto getting his hands on a main Metroid again, at least not as a director. As an advisor, maybe, why not.
Count me out of buying that. If it's even remotely true at all.
If it does happen it's not under their first-parties, and if it is, it's probably not under their supervision (miyamoto etc), this would happen if they give Retro Studios to come up with soemthing they want to ... (western developer)
But even Retro studios has japanese developers in sound and other departments.
DaSorcerer7
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No, we'll see a Zelda game that surpasses it. :O
ScreenSplitter
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Did people not like the Prime series? I thought it was a brilliant way to bring the games into the 3D space after a long absence, and showed up Nintendo by being a Western studio and making a better game than EAD/Team Ninja.
I'm all for Metroid V too though. Retro have more than proved they can emulate SNES gameplay with DKC Returns.
I'm all for Metroid V too though. Retro have more than proved they can emulate SNES gameplay with DKC Returns.
So are they just trading employees back and forth between id Software and Retro Studios?
Just look at Irrational Games and BioShock Infinite, they had a few people leaving and also picked up new people just a few weeks ago with another 6 months or so to go until release.
It's not unusual.
Ask Anihawk, he loves it.
DaSorcerer7
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Always-honest
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I doubt it
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
:-(
ScreenSplitter
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Why won't we ever see a Zelda game like that? For all you know, it's in development right now. Considering how long Zelda games take to make, it's not unusual. Spaceworld was a long time ago people.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
One of those rare occasions when 'Shoot the messenger!' is perfectly justified.
It was SPD/Team Ninja that did Other M. But it was also SPD/Retro that did Primes. EAD had no involvement.
No, we'll see a game that is a decade ahead of its time, but half of GAF will go on suicide watch over the art style.
ScreenSplitter
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Pardon me. I know Sakamato didn't work much on Prime though, and from what I've heard I don't think he likes the games much.
Always-honest
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It's doable, but i think most of us think they will go for a different style of art direction.
IceDoesntHelp
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shut up you! ;_;
MadeInBeats
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You mean generic, linear, dull, insultingly easy and mind numbing? You're getting mixed up with Halo 4; members left Retro to work on said title.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Prime is successful and excellent. But if Nintendo didn't have an inch to change up the formula we would have never got Other M. I figure they felt Prime had run its course and it was time to give Metroid some new blood. Whether that was born out of an interest to change for design/stagnation reasons, or because Nintendo felt Metroid should grab a larger market share than what it accomplished with Prime, is impossible to know.
For that reason it's also impossible to know what they'll do with the series next. If design/stagnation reasons lead to Other M, Nintendo may feel like simply going back to the drawing board and trying something entirely different, or trying the general Other M formula again while addressing criticisms in an effort to improve. If Other M was a product of attempting to appeal to a larger market, Nintendo would likely revise the formula or do something totally different to create a Metroid that would sell better. Or cut their losses and realise Metroid appeals to a specific Metroid market, and go with something safer and predictable (eg: Prime 4).
Metroid's future rests on Nintendo's perception of the franchise.
For that reason it's also impossible to know what they'll do with the series next. If design/stagnation reasons lead to Other M, Nintendo may feel like simply going back to the drawing board and trying something entirely different, or trying the general Other M formula again while addressing criticisms in an effort to improve. If Other M was a product of attempting to appeal to a larger market, Nintendo would likely revise the formula or do something totally different to create a Metroid that would sell better. Or cut their losses and realise Metroid appeals to a specific Metroid market, and go with something safer and predictable (eg: Prime 4).
Metroid's future rests on Nintendo's perception of the franchise.
It's his creation, let him do whatever the fuck he wants with the IP.
ScreenSplitter
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Interesting EatChildren. I certainly feel like the reception of Other M has "scared" Nintendo off. If they want to do safe and boring though, I can't help but wonder why they haven't done Dread/V yet. I don't think people want much innovation per-say, just follow Super Metroid's formula and have shiny new graphics/weapons/maps.
I don't agree that he should be allowed to run the IP into the ground, but yeah... he's been there since the original Metroid, so I'd like to think he hasn't completely gone off the rails. Creators should be allowed a mistake.
I don't agree that he should be allowed to run the IP into the ground, but yeah... he's been there since the original Metroid, so I'd like to think he hasn't completely gone off the rails. Creators should be allowed a mistake.
I've never noticed that bird in the top right before
I guess people asking for "Prime 4" haven't really played the Prime trilogy, have they? Story arch is complete and finished, and there's absolutely no need to shoehorn more games and events before the SR388 story (Metroid II) especially since the whole stuff about Samus losing her powers at the beginning of every game is starting to get old and really random in order not to break the canon. Either Metroid V or Metroid "-1" make more sense, as all they have done since Fusion (IV) back in 2001 is making up in-between stuff like Prime Trilogy + Hunters (1.5) and Other M (3.5)
ScreenSplitter
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Hey now, I'm just trying something new here. But I agree. That would be horrible. Or would it? People once thought fps Metroid was a dreadful idea. I want a new Eternal Darkness badly and no, I don't want it to be fps either.
But I don't want a new Prime. I loved the trilogy but enough is enough. Let Retro do something entirely original. Obviously they are capable of doing wonders. And I actually think there is a very strong posibilty of this being the case and that we might actually get at least a teaser of things to come. Something to look forward to when you get the new console.
Remeber this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYik2eWgKY
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I think when people say "Prime 4" they simply mean a Prime-esque Metroid. As in, first person action adventuring Metroid. It could be called Metroid Dread, Metroid Moonshine or whatever else, not necessarily Prime 4.
I remember that well, as it was the dawning realisation that the Wii was an overclocked GameCube.
IceDoesntHelp
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odd looking bird.
That's no way to talk about my wife
kunonabi
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I loved the first one but I couldn't stand Echoes or Corruption. I'm not a giant fan of first person stuff to begin with so Metroid being stuck that way doesn't really interest me.
Agree. But at the time the prospect of a new Retro-developed Metroid still got me hyped even though they didn't show anything more than to allude that Samus' ship would play a bigger role this time around. Just as a teaser of their new project would do now.
radioheadrule83
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I agree with EC that when people say they want Prime 4, they basically just mean a game in that style...
the Metroid story is a mess to me now. I really think it's time for a reboot. Almost every Link and Zelda are different in the Zelda games, its a recurring Legend with only the tiniest threads of continuity connecting them all... Mario is Mario, you expect Princess kidnappings and you don't really care. Metroid has started to write itself into a corner.
She's defeated Prime three times, invaded the Pirate homeworld with the GDGF, defeated Mother Brain, saved the last Metroid in captivity, supposedly killed all other Metroids (several times), she's been on a horrible adventure with Adam where he and everyone else gets killed in a GDGF conspiracy (and some nonsense about an angry female AI), she's been infected with Corruption, infused with Metroid DNA, infused with the X-Parasite... where does this friendless, parasite infected mess of a woman go from here? And how can we keep explaining the loss of her powers and resurgence of Pirates/Metroids?
It needs a genuinely clever, well-written sequel to these events, or they need to just disregard everything prior and do it over - the way they always try to approach Zelda: a clean slate. I'd honestly prefer the latter as it gives them more freedom to surprise us.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I dunno. We yet to get a post-Fusion game. She's essentially a fugitive now.
If anything, post-Fusion is in a good position to open a brand new Federation free adventure. One driven by Samus alone.
If anything, post-Fusion is in a good position to open a brand new Federation free adventure. One driven by Samus alone.
DragonSworne
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Nintendo needs to make a Zelda game where link wears no tights. Bear leg Link! Show off those hairy man legs and the power of the WiiU.
With a TPS camera (RE4 style, as in the exploration phases of Other M), gamepad as scanner, a lot of outdoor alien location with a little bit of a creepy/horror taste.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Well, we already had wolf Link so I guess bear Link would be a reasonable progression.
ScreenSplitter
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Well Metroid Fusion sets up that
the Federation aren't against using Metroids for their own ends, which could easily paint them as a sinister corporation/set up an experiment gone terribly wrong. Imagine a Metroid infested Federation facility.
DragonSworne
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Bare...
Also, I want more bears in Zelda, would be a cool addition.
Also, I want more bears in Zelda, would be a cool addition.
Bare...
Also, I want more bears in Zelda, would be a cool addition.
Retro's new title, Bear Bones The Big One, the spritual sequel to Conker's Bad Fur Day confirmed!
DaSorcerer7
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ScreenSplitter
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