No, it is talking about EDRAM.
32mb of ram reserved for the OS is what the 3DS had.
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Rumor: Wii U final specs
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No, it is talking about EDRAM.
32mb of ram reserved for the OS is what the 3DS had.
The price is fair if the games are good. It's not a computer, it's a gaming console.
I'm pretty sure it was, might be wrong though.
I'd have thought you'd look at the games and features to see if it's fair as opposed to raw specs? However I agree, I want to try and gauge if downports from SONY and MS next-gen will look possible.
Fake Edit: Beaten
Broadway was, in fact, an over clocked Gekko with more cache.
Multi-Core G4s have been on the market since 2000.
Then again, if they were The Wii U CPU, they'd be useful at all times.
Majmun
Member
Yeah, everything about the Wii U is still a mystery. Isn't the console supposed to be released in over two months, or so??
To be honest, I don't rememeber how information was handled for the other consoles before they got launched...
H_Prestige
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The games have have their own, separate cost from the hardware.
Consoles can in fact be ripoffs regardless of how good the games are.
JordanN
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Edit: Blu disagrees the two cpu's are not the same.
12 year hardware assisting 2012 tech? Not happening.Rolf NB said:
Ok get this. There have been games shown on Wii U that no amount of overclocking could run on Wii/G4 era hardware, ever.
I am, because that is how systems live or die. By the way, EA and Activision are going to make those games you mentioned anyways.
Developers NEED those things or want those things? I have seen many, many capable developers create amazing things on hardware that was less than amazing, just saying. Hardware does not NEED to be bleeding edge to make great games.
IrishNinja
Member
It's the same for 3DS; I don't think any of the dev documents actually says how much RAM the hardware has in total
Imagine it as an entry ticket, you buy it to be able to buy games. At $250 Vita has a "fairer" price than 3DS at launch and probably even now since Vita's hardware is noticeably superior. But it doesn't matter to most as 3DS has better games, and that's what you buy a gaming console for.
It was never a multi-threaded architecture, but the 47x series supports multi-core.
Mr. MondayNight
Member
Now what are these specs in terms of My Little Ponies, Care Bears, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
Supermanisdead
Member
There's a WiiU presentation on Thursday, so we'll probably find out a lot more then.
WiiU: Lionheart/Leonardo
PS3: Grumpy/Donatello
360: Shreiky/Michaelangelo
MrNyarlathotep
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A fair price is what people are prepared to pay and not the cost of an itemised list of ingredients.
That's why restaurants exist.
It's also pretty much a basic foundation of capitalism.
1. It's not bleeding edge. The PS4/Xbox720 are going to be outdated by high end PC standards when they come out, this Wii U hardware is ancient
2. Yes, they do NEED those things. You can only do so much with limited amounts of memory and limited CPU/GPU. It's not even graphics, it's advanced physics systems, it's large worlds, it's running games at high FPS (30 FPS doesnt cut it). If you haven't played Battlefield 3 or Witcher 2 on a high end PC and compared it to the 360, you really can't dismiss it as just better graphics, the entire experience is completely different
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Gekko is not a G4.
yn-neko hates a cat
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with the exception of the videocard, It feels like 6 years later, Nintendo finally released a 2006 console :/
specialguy
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We will find out nothing about the specs for sure. Nintendo themselves will never reveal any relevant specs for any of it's hardware ever.
JordanN
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Anyways, I think I did a better job debunking the CPU myth in another thread and it went something like this.
Dead Rising on Wii has 100 Zombies.
Dead Rising on Xbox 360 had 800 Zombies. The sequel had 7,000.
Wii U has been confirmed to handle over thousands of animated objects and it's better at doing it than any current gen system.
The discrepancy is too large for Wii era tech to pull off what Wii U can do. Case and point.
Dead Rising on Wii has 100 Zombies.
Dead Rising on Xbox 360 had 800 Zombies. The sequel had 7,000.
Wii U has been confirmed to handle over thousands of animated objects and it's better at doing it than any current gen system.
The discrepancy is too large for Wii era tech to pull off what Wii U can do. Case and point.
Can you explain? Because if you're discounting the GPU I can only think what's left is the CPU and we really don't know how it performs yet.
Starsunder
Member
Guys guys, we need more comparisons of the powerz of the Wii U. Let's use something universal, like sex. Condom sizes? I think we can all agree the PC is Magnum.
Wii=?
PS360=?
Wii U=?
Wii=?
PS360=?
Wii U=?
MrNyarlathotep
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Probably a result of them giving out real world performance numbers with the GC while Sony and MS were giving out theoretical maximums, with the result people claimed the PS2 to be vastly more powerful than the GC at the time, and hilariously, some people continue to believe that today.
Wii-U is Parent Trap Lohan, more than 1, and underdeveloped and cute?
PS4/720 is blonde haired Lohan but before she became a total clusterfuck but well on their way to that path
Metalmurphy
Member
Some people like to define next gen as simply the next iteration of a consoles, other people, like me, don't.
Ragingbegal
Member
Specs can always be better but we're still going to be playing games that meet or exceed this:
Excited for Thursday.
Excited for Thursday.
Eh no. If you eat at a fish restaurant and get served (formerly) frozen fish you'll also complain (about the price).
Anyways, that comparison doesn't make sense.
Unknown One
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If true it's no wonder why Nintendo has been all hush hush about everything.
If What is true?
Didn't we only find out about the 3DS having a total of 128 MB after a tear down of a launch unit? Everybody had been operating under the assumption that the 3DS only had 64 MB available for developers, and then that revelation changed everything.
MrNyarlathotep
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A good chef can make a tasty meal out of frozen fish no problem, and get paid well for it.
Thinking the value of a console is a price list of its components is what doesn't make sense to me. Particularly as there is literally no way you can attach a per unit cost on the R&D of selecting and designing the architecture and the development of the software and features that comes with it that way.
IrishNinja
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people like you is wrong tho, Wii/DS/etc proved that, they were in that "next" gen like WU's starting off here
please do not ask me about the ouya, cause no i have no idea where that goes haha
Refreshment.01
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24 pages just in these topic, added to 1000's of pages and dozen of thousands messages are prove enough that specs are important and people care about them, including those who say they don't.
Visuals are of paramount importance in this industry, hugr amounts of denial and false declarations won't change that.
ShockingAlberto
Member
You can't really just change the definitions of things to better fit your own personal preferences.
I mean, you can. But you would look wrong and foolish.
Afro Gunsou
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I posted the following in the Wii U general thread and a lot of people seemed to really agree with it so I figured that I'd post it here too since it seems a little more relevant here:
These specs should really be nothing new to everyone who reasonably expected something only slightly better than 360/PS3.
After going through some post histories and reading the posts of people who seem completely infuriated by the specs, it seems pretty clear to me that even if the tech was 3x that of current gen, the people who are complaining now still wouldn't get one because they hate Nintendo.
EDIT: I've owned every major console since the SNES/Genesis days and will continue to. I realize I sound like a Nintendo apologist above but I'm really just stating the obvious. Some people will never be able to shake their hate for Nintendo just like there are Nintendo fans who will swear against Sony and MS until the day they die. I guess the hate is just more prevalent around pre-launch for the new consoles.
These specs should really be nothing new to everyone who reasonably expected something only slightly better than 360/PS3.
After going through some post histories and reading the posts of people who seem completely infuriated by the specs, it seems pretty clear to me that even if the tech was 3x that of current gen, the people who are complaining now still wouldn't get one because they hate Nintendo.
EDIT: I've owned every major console since the SNES/Genesis days and will continue to. I realize I sound like a Nintendo apologist above but I'm really just stating the obvious. Some people will never be able to shake their hate for Nintendo just like there are Nintendo fans who will swear against Sony and MS until the day they die. I guess the hate is just more prevalent around pre-launch for the new consoles.
Not hate, some people just feel "wronged" by Nintendo with the Wii and are dissapointed they have turned in another direction that doesn't focus on graphical power or "hardcore" games.
As for me, I have my gaming PC for graphics, only thing I care about on consoles is if it has exclusive games.
As for me, I have my gaming PC for graphics, only thing I care about on consoles is if it has exclusive games.
Refreshment.01
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Not many were reasonable about specs. Some were waiting to something DX11 compilant wise on a 28nm lithography and a decent CPU. Between 3/6x cuarrent gen (yea the "x" times bullshit again) acording to some rumors.
So yea, there wasn't much down to earth folks gravitaing the Wiiu threads. Looks like reality is sinking in and now we are back to the Wii like "specs are not important, fun is everything" coments. Nintendo should call the console 360 in this sense.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
With specs like those, I don't think they are skimping on RAM. 1GB is fine here.
Yes exactly, every single document available to developers only mentions the amount of RAM available for games. If it's the same case here it could have quite a lot more locked away for the OS; of which some may be unlocked later
You completely miss the point. I'm not talking about visuals, I'm talking about price points. If you want better graphics, you buy more expensive consoles. But it doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get a better deal out of that. Because gaming consoles are much more than a sum of their hardware components.
shinra-bansho
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Long thread to wade through.
So we're back to Broadway cores?
So we're back to Broadway cores?