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I want a Neo Geo
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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ah, I thought it was like $100-$300 but not some being $1000+
One day...
Hell, some games go for $10,000!!! I.e. AES Euro version of Kizuna Encounter.
As much I loved the NeoGeo, at those prices I'll make do with emulation. Plenty of good official and unofficial options. Too bad the NeoGeoX turned out so bad, could've/should've been the ultimate NeoGeo emulator.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Ya, I mostly want it for metal slug and one or two fighting games. I've never even heard of the game you just mentioned.
BobTheFork
Member
What amazes me is that I didn't understand utill recently how the NeoGeo actually worked. I didn't know you plugged the carts right into a cabinet. I thought the cabinets were all set up the same way as normal with boards but you could buy carts for the home system. A friend of mine has a sit down cabinet and showed me not long ago. It's pretty damned cool.
Yeah, the Neo sitdowns are beautiful. I would love to have one, but can't justify the space or expense.
This is the old 25" Candy -- IIRC you will see these exact cabs in the backgrounds of some early KOF's. Classic.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Ouch at those prices. The price to pay for being a fan of these games...=(
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Weren't the neo geo cabinets also the ones that had the screens turn green a lot? Are the screens easy to replace?
Yeah, the Neo sitdowns are beautiful. I would love to have one, but can't justify the space or expense.
This is the old 25" Candy -- IIRC you will see these exact cabs in the backgrounds of some early KOF's. Classic.
Man that looks nice.
BobTheFork
Member
Yeah, the Neo sitdowns are beautiful. I would love to have one, but can't justify the space or expense.
This is the old 25" Candy -- IIRC you will see these exact cabs in the backgrounds of some early KOF's. Classic.
Yeah, that's the one he has. He has carts for Metal Slug X and Bust a Move, a golf game and a space shooter I didn't recognize. He had several more carts on his shelf. However.... he showed me the fifth cart. If you hit some button combination when the cabinet boots up it goes to a cart that had, I would guess 100, NeoGeo games on it. It was pretty much every game I'd ever heard of and you just picked from a text list and loaded it right up.
I'm ready to jump on this. It's very unfortunate they are sold out. I already own an AES with some MVS carts, used with a Phantom converter, but it's in a different country. I miss my Neo-Geo goodness, and this seems like the complete package. Quite an investment, but it's one of those products that will last me a lifetime.
aggro crag
Member
They look good as well. More expensive and don't look as nice, though. Also, I like having the RGB output Analogue appears to offer. The socketed unibios is a nice touch, however.
No, I wouldn't say "fan" so much as I would say "collector." There are a ton of ways to play Neo-Geo games and there's no reason to buy overpriced AES carts if you just want to play the good stuff.
I used to love how people would fork out money for carts years back, though- Neo-Geo was the only system where I could buy a game, play the shit out of it, and when I was done with it ALWAYS sell it for a profit, LOL.
JGBtypeR
Member
I just got an AES for Christmas from my brother (best present ever? definitely up there). It was already modded with a unibios and component out, so I am ready to go. Truth be told I already have a CD-Z and 4 slot MVS cabinet too, but have always wanted an AES to call my own. And yes, I bought the X too..
Since I've had the MVS for a while I've got a few games for it (probably around 15), so what I'll probably do is just get a converter and call it a day. But really when you break it all down, it really depends on what you're wanting to do. You can get an AES on ebay for like $250 and spend another $250 on a converter and play both AES and MVS games. That isn't a lot more than a consolized MVS and is an AES (a big deal to me, sorry). Nothing can beat having your own arcade system at home either though.
So IMO it's really comes down to where you are in life, tight living quarters=AES+converter, wide open spaces=MVS and maybe and AES once that Neo Geo addiction gets it's hooks in you.
Since I've had the MVS for a while I've got a few games for it (probably around 15), so what I'll probably do is just get a converter and call it a day. But really when you break it all down, it really depends on what you're wanting to do. You can get an AES on ebay for like $250 and spend another $250 on a converter and play both AES and MVS games. That isn't a lot more than a consolized MVS and is an AES (a big deal to me, sorry). Nothing can beat having your own arcade system at home either though.
So IMO it's really comes down to where you are in life, tight living quarters=AES+converter, wide open spaces=MVS and maybe and AES once that Neo Geo addiction gets it's hooks in you.
In all fairness to the AES, which I generally discourage people from buying, these are skewed comparisons. The AES prices are accurate for complete carts with clam shell cases and accompanying art. The MVS prices are accurate for used bare cartridges with in just about any condition (aside from baseball stars 2 which tends to go for $80 or so on MVS..been trying to get my hands on that one recently). Using MVS kits would multiply the prices of the MVS carts by about 5 times or so. Still, for a gamer who isn't much interested in collecting, the chart is in the ballpark of what you're dealing with...of course such a person should also look for cheaper MVS options than a fancy consolized MVS.
Also, OP please consider a supergun and a multislot MVS board or an MVS arcade cabinet before making your decision . The former setup will be generally more useful than a dedicated consolized MVS and cheaper. A multi-slot MVS also has built-in controller ports which take AES joysticks and neo cd pads of you want to go with that option for controls.
Agreed. I've had a MVS candy cab for a decade or so and I haven't regretted it. Also, neo-geo.com can't be beaten for info on and buying games/ parts for the system. I recently got a double capacity memory card for my MVS that a forum member there designed and had fabricated for a reasonable price.
My guess would be rarity and those cd soundtracks. I'd imagine most buying neo geo cd games are also AES collectors so these games are fairly cheap comparatively, but again, that's a guess.
Jake Tower
Banned
The MVS to AES price comparison also illustrates a big danger of AES collecting: "bootleg" AES carts that are made from the MVS board and sold for huge profit. It's much safer to stick with MVS, either consolized or cab.
Hmm guess Neo Geo gaming is a bit pricey no matter the route.
That being said, i'm going to need to snag a couple of these extension cables from the site selling the wood case consoles.
http://analogueinteractive.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/neo-geo-extension-cable
They should work with the CD pad right? Cheapest i've ever seen them.
SkylineRKR
Member
I think the PS3 emulation is amazing. I double dipped on some games I also own on AES and its about 100% faithful. I play them with TE stick but the NG Stick would be even more like it.
Shin Johnpv
Member
Part of the problem with collection Neo Geo stuff, is the community really. A lot of that stuff isn't that rare and shouldn't cost as much as it does, but the community has just driven prices through multiple roofs, and have this attitude of if you're not willing to spend big money then you're not worthy of owning Neo Geo stuff.
POWERSPHERE
Banned
Neogeo-GAF are crazy.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
The NeoGeo X isn't that bad - in fact, the handheld with that great thumbstick is pretty awesome, and the controller works with PS3, so it's not a bad deal at all imho - but there are some very vocal, very picky critics ('cause it's the Internets afterall)... Anyway, it will be blown wide open shortly, and since it's using Final Burn as the emulator, you know things will improve... it will be the ultimate handheld NeoGeo in the near future...
GhaleonQ
Member
kinggroin, not to be a jerk and not to suggest that having the actual thing isn't superior for aesthetic and emulation reasons AND not to suggest that you can get every Neo Geo game with it, but wouldn't a better solution, depending on your tastes, be to get the S.N.K./A.D.K. compilations and a Japanese Playstation 2 with a stick?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SNK_games#PlayStation_2
ADK Tamashii
Art of Fighting Anthology
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 1
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 2
Fuuun Super Combo
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
The King of Fighters '94: Re-Bout
The King of Fighters '98: Ultimate Match
The King of Fighters 2002: Unlimited Match
The King of Fighters Orochi Collection
The King of Fighters NESTS Collection
The Last Blade 1&2
Metal Slug Anthology
Neo Geo Battle Coliseum
Samurai Shodown Anthology
SNK Arcade Classics
SNK Slot Panic Vol. 1
Sunsoft Collection
Twinkle Star Sprites 1/2
World Heroes Anthology
*nods, hoping that no one saw him so that he avoids a beating*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SNK_games#PlayStation_2
ADK Tamashii
Art of Fighting Anthology
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 1
Fatal Fury Battle Archives Vol. 2
Fuuun Super Combo
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
The King of Fighters '94: Re-Bout
The King of Fighters '98: Ultimate Match
The King of Fighters 2002: Unlimited Match
The King of Fighters Orochi Collection
The King of Fighters NESTS Collection
The Last Blade 1&2
Metal Slug Anthology
Neo Geo Battle Coliseum
Samurai Shodown Anthology
SNK Arcade Classics
SNK Slot Panic Vol. 1
Sunsoft Collection
Twinkle Star Sprites 1/2
World Heroes Anthology
*nods, hoping that no one saw him so that he avoids a beating*
Damn this thread. I returned my Neo Geo X after the middling reviews...but I've always wanted a Neo Geo. Now I'm off looking at consolized MVS setups. This seems like a deep, dark, horrible path to go down...obviously some very enjoyable games to be had but the dollars will flow...
At least it seems they maintain value pretty well...so exiting the hobby would not be too painful.
At least it seems they maintain value pretty well...so exiting the hobby would not be too painful.
Phat Michael
Banned
My friend, from someone who started collecting AES take my advice: do NOT start collecting AES or Neo geo systems/carts.
Right now i have an AES, kidney bean controller, AES stick and about 8-10 Games (None of the major ones like Metal Slug etc) . I also have the portable Neo Geo and quite a few of those games.
The thing is ...theyre REALLY expensive in good condition and you wont actually play them. The games are decent on emulators but basically i have a very expensive set of paperweights and boxes because once the nostalgia wears off you realise that only the really expensive games are worth owning and you dont want to be looking at those types of carts.
I also started collected PCBs for the Supergun (Cave only) - these are the two most expensive hobbies i have and i havent bought anything new for either system in about 2 years.
The gold X is fine if you want a cheapish emulator to play around 20 games or so..
Thanks for the advice Phat. Looking through eBay and craigslist, it appears that things are still just a tad bit too expensive to warrant purchasing for admittedly collecting purposes. Especially since money is tight.
Ghaleon, you're not a jerk for trying to save a fellow gamer some money. I may in fact just go the compilations route and only buy an aes for collection purposes and pretend im playing off of it, ha!
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Phat Michael
Banned
Yeah dude like...its nice to have but you really dont need it. I got my AES complete for $20USD second hand..i got the games new and sealed too from a very difficult to find source but as soon as i looked for other games it became too expensive.
For me, why not try a Supergun and get a few PCBs? its a lot cooler and less expensive unless you are specialising in Cave PCBs which are ridiculous for the most part.
I got my AES from Kuwait and no one knew what it was.....funny stuff lol.
Noisepurge
Member
i've posted my unit here several times
and as others have also suggested, get one of these consolized MVS units. It's an arcade board built in a convenient shell with proper input/output options.Runs for about 300$ as a plug&play unit. Much cheaper if you get just a board and build it yourself.
Games are 10$-300$. Thats cheap compared to AES home console games, 50$-1000$
Nice, ha.
If you can believe this, when I was 14, I found a Neo Geo AES in a garage sale just outside my church one Sunday. The guy wanted $20 (one controller and power, no video cable) which my young self did not have. Begged my mom, but she just yelled at me for wanting more game junk after already getting a turbo grafx, lol.
Phat Michael
Banned
Heres a quick snap of some of my Neo stuff...just a small collection but i didnt pay TOO much.
Hellraizah
Member
Take my advice, from an ex-run down AES owner still wanting his Neo Geo fix : the best option to play Neo Geo right now is the Wii Virtual Console (with a Japanese console, if you can, but Euro or American is still good). Now, the Classic Controller won't cut it so you have to import a Wii Neo Geo stick from Japan or custom-build yourself one. The emulation is the best and you won't feel like playing cheap versions of the games.
The games are mostly 900 points each and there's 45 of them available right now on the system with a new one coming every 2 weeks or so on Thursday (in America). I'm buying them all to show my support. I want them to release Pulstar, Blazing Star and Garou. My life will be complete
The more people buying these games, the more chances they continue to release them.
The games are mostly 900 points each and there's 45 of them available right now on the system with a new one coming every 2 weeks or so on Thursday (in America). I'm buying them all to show my support. I want them to release Pulstar, Blazing Star and Garou. My life will be complete
The more people buying these games, the more chances they continue to release them.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
As an AES owner, let me tell you: Unless you live in Japan, go the MVS route. Finding inexpensive AES games in the states is a fucking nightmare. At least in Japan, there are tons of AES games that are actually really cheap, and easy to find.
AES games appreciate in value, while MVS depreciate in value. That simple fact should make it obvious which the most cost effective route is.
AES games appreciate in value, while MVS depreciate in value. That simple fact should make it obvious which the most cost effective route is.
Starwolf_UK
Member
From what I hear Euro VC Neo-Geo its 50Hz only with black borders (distorting the graphics as they get horizontally stretched) and I guess the games play at 5/6 speed as well. But then, wouldn't European AES hardware suffer the same?
Death Dealer
Member
I was one of the countless kids that wanted a Neo Geo.
The $650 for the system could almost have been justifiable to my parents considering it was real arcade hw, I mean a computer cost a lot more back then.
But the fact that games were all almost $200 each was the real deal breaker.
That was as much as my SNES cost, w/ SMW !
I salute the guys that have these systems. I can see what makes them special and still valuable today.
So what is the largest cartridge made ? 600+ Mbit ?
The $650 for the system could almost have been justifiable to my parents considering it was real arcade hw, I mean a computer cost a lot more back then.
But the fact that games were all almost $200 each was the real deal breaker.
That was as much as my SNES cost, w/ SMW !
I salute the guys that have these systems. I can see what makes them special and still valuable today.
So what is the largest cartridge made ? 600+ Mbit ?
Mattlikewhoa
Member
I was thinking the same thing...
I remember the various debates on Japanese Vs US versions...Price spikes at random, oh and the forum drama...
I sold my collection a while ago and I really haven't looked back. I believe my last purchase was SVC Chaos. I'd like to get a sit down cab in the future so I'll be back.
Take my advice, from an ex-run down AES owner still wanting his Neo Geo fix : the best option to play Neo Geo right now is the Wii Virtual Console (with a Japanese console, if you can, but Euro or American is still good). Now, the Classic Controller won't cut it so you have to import a Wii Neo Geo stick from Japan or custom-build yourself one. The emulation is the best and you won't feel like playing cheap versions of the games.
The games are mostly 900 points each and there's 45 of them available right now on the system with a new one coming every 2 weeks or so on Thursday (in America). I'm buying them all to show my support. I want them to release Pulstar, Blazing Star and Garou. My life will be complete
The more people buying these games, the more chances they continue to release them.
Have to agree with this. I have an AES myself along with about 45 games, including Garou and some other expensive carts.
While the real deal can't be beat and buying a new game every so often is a real event compared to picking up any game for a more current system, if you have a limited budget and can't afford to pay 300+ for certain games, going the AES route might not be the correct thing to do.
The Wii VC emulation is perfect. Unless you have a pal system, since those games will run in 50hz with borders.
Another positive is that is has games such as Ironclad and Shock Troopers which were NeoGeo CD/MVS exclusives up till then.
I got 2 NeoGeo sticks for the Wii and they are very good quality and feel great.
Still as someone who always looked at NeoGeo games in magazines such as JoyPad and CVG as they came out back in the day but never been able to afford one in the 90s, having the real deal sit underneath the tv ready to go can't be beat.
CaseyTappy
Member
Because it's a heap of shite ?
Has nothing to do with Neo or SNK but the logo and some emulation .
So many options , buy a nice AES console and use an MVS to AES converter for the real deal but cheaper.
Megadragon15
Member
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Lol..I remember the early days of the Neo-Geo when the western SNK marketing team kept trying to convince the world that the games really were measured in megabytes, not megabits.
I'm guessing they eventually got a call from Neo Geo HQ in Japan to put them straight, because those claims eventually went strangely silent..
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GhaleonQ
Member
Right, I'm a collector myself, but the packages are SO nice, SO complete, and have SO many games that I think they're every bit as good (and much less expensive). It's 1 thing to pass up on Sonic The Hedgehog collections or whatever since they're hodgepodge, but, like, having Sunsoft's 3 really peculiar and fun games in 1 package is a sweet package.
That's all my opinion, of course. I do have a Neo Geo and a few of my favorite originals, too.
They are very interesting fighting games, such that you might want to try them, anyway, but they also are heavy in all of the arcade-heavy genres: beat-'em-ups, shoot-'em-ups, driving, and action. The 2 Twinkle Star Sprites games (1 Neo Geo-specific, but re-released) are, in particular, so, so clever.
Those are sexy as fuck, but $650 for the console and $199 for the controller. YIKES.
SkylineRKR
Member
My stuff:
Plus Ninja Commando, League Bowling and a few others.
Plus Ninja Commando, League Bowling and a few others.