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Netflix launches 'Super HD' and 3D streaming - for certain ISPs
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This is relevant to my interests.
dehydratedbabies
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Damn it. I have Optimum, but my download is only like 2.3Mb/s.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
A lot of the regular HD content isn't available on PC anyway. Wonder if this is true for the windows 8 app.
Same here...Liberty Cable, 20Mb line, 2x42" 1080p HDTVs
Also have Optimum Online in Brooklyn, NY, 50Mb, 2x55" 1080p HDTVs
LyleLanley
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Restricting services to certain ISPs is definitely a bad thing.
yeah, all in due time. this is an awesome idea, though. netflix keeps getting my monthly fee.
Takamura-San
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Maybe it is the ISP that don't want to be part of it....
You know bandwidth costs for them.
Doesn't cost as much as you think it does. That attitude is why by 2015 all major ISPs will have tiny ass data caps on all users.
If I recall correctly, silverlight on 360 (lakeview) -- the platform for all apps doesn't support 1080p. As for Fios (and other "unsupported" ISPs), I'm sure it is because Netflix doesn't want to pay anyone to host their CDN when other providers like Akamai do and they see this as an opportunity to put pressure on them
LyleLanley
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Eitherway, only getting portions of the Internet because certain websites and your ISP don't have some deal in place is shitty.
The Faceless Master
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they're not offering new services for free though, they're trying to co-opt me into being their marketing partner with my ISP.
more like they don't like how the internet works and want to do their own shit... just like ESPN does with ESPN3...
My ISP already gets paid for providing internet access.
Netflix already gets paid for providing their service.
Why should i have to be the middleman in their peering/colo war?
VUDU has 1080p streaming.
The Faceless Master
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speaking of Xbox 360, does their version of Youtube have Youtube Remote yet? i swear everything else has that, tvs, bluray players, ps3, settop boxes...
Yes restriction like that are bad, but it's not a simple situation. It's a costs issue.
Oh no ... you might actually have to send and email or make a forum post. wahhhhhhhh
Yeah it was just upgraded.
LyleLanley
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What cost issue? We already have data caps so let me blow it on "Super HD" or whatever else I want.
I can't believe you're ok with this.
AzureSkies
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Will SuperHD work if I'm on Telus but using a DNS so that I can access the American Netflix on my PS3?
Their cost issue. Are you under the impression doubling bitrates while serving millions of concurrent users isn't costly? It would be a small fortune.
Their proposed solution is http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/04/netflix-open-connect/. The pitch to the ISP's is it will actually lower their costs as well. Essentially it's a win-win.
Why would I not be ok with getting notably higher quality video at the same cost I'm paying now?
The alternative to them going with Netflix Open Connect is simply raising their rates, or not offering the improved service.
You haven't read GAF enough then. There's always someone.
Read the above and tell me where I'm wrong?
Why would I be inclined to either pay more, or not get the service at all?
This premise is flawed.
So my ISP supports SuperHD (according to the netflix SuperHD page) and the SuperHD icon shows up next to films and TV shows in the PS3 app, but when I'm playing one of these items and pull up the information in the upper left-hand corner, the highest quality it ever shows me is Medium/SD. In fact, it jumps up the qualities of HD as it buffers and then goes jumps back to Medium/SD. Is this a bug or have they foolishly decided to use SD to mean SuperHD in that info box?
The video is obviously playing in 1080p HD, and my down is 10mb so I have enough for SuperHD, but it's hard to tell whether it's any better than X-High used to be though without anyway of doing an A/B comparison with the old streams.
The video is obviously playing in 1080p HD, and my down is 10mb so I have enough for SuperHD, but it's hard to tell whether it's any better than X-High used to be though without anyway of doing an A/B comparison with the old streams.
So they should just eat the cost?
I love the everything for free attitude many at gaf have.
LyleLanley
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We're not asking to have anything for free, we pay for our internet and we pay for our Netflix subscription. Something something something Net Neutrality.
What does this have to do with what you pay for internet, your netflix subscription, or net neutrality?
Was surprise when I load up Netflix on my PS3 to see the Super HD option show up. I live in NJ and have Cablevision as my provider. Been marathoning Louie the past few days and have to say, the quality of Super HD really does look great. For me, the difference was noticeable and I really do like it. It's Blu-ray quality in my eyes. I love you Netflix + Cablevision.
Suck on it peasants!
Suck on it peasants!
The Faceless Master
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why would i be ok with not getting notably higher quality video at the same cost I'm paying now?
especially since i just got a 3DTV!
fuck Netflix for wanting to use me as a pawn.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I bet the 3D is just 1080p SBS so they could offer it on the regular HD streams if they wanted to anyway, it shouldn't require higher bandwidth.
You signed up for Netflix based on what they were offering at the time.
If it costs them money to increase video quality, why would they be obligated to give that to you for free?
I found a workaround for this, subscribe to https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ their us servers support it
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/604/netflix-superhd
The quality is pretty good from what I've watched, the windows 8 netflix app does suck though, no search
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/604/netflix-superhd
The quality is pretty good from what I've watched, the windows 8 netflix app does suck though, no search
The Faceless Master
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you posted this reply based on pure nonsense.
why would i be obligated to give a real reply?
It does search the same way any Windows 8 app does search, the charms bar.
Reading some PR,
https://signup.netflix.com/MediaCenter/Press
Looks like it is all on the ISP. Perhaps costs of re-configuring their network is holding certain ISP's back? I don't know. Could also be ego or existing contract clauses with media providers.
please explain
heliosRAzi
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So I'm talking with Time Warner and they are saying that I need to enable the port on my wireless router
word.
The Faceless Master
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why?
yes, we already know this, hence my comments on Netflix wanting me to be a pawn/proxy between them and my ISP.
Mr. Wonderful
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And why would they do that when they offer such great(TM) services such as XFinity?
Thanks for adding so much to this thread.
I give my position, and your response is essentially that I'm not worth acknowledging and you don't bother to argue your position.
OP says they're 7Mbps and yes, probably h264 since only the html5 clients are supported
7Mbps is pretty good, 1080p does look good with that for such a "low" bitrate! In 720p Im even fine with 3Mbps.
That is compared to disc, those are like 17-25Mbps.
Blu-Ray is still fucking insane quality to me
somuchwater
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So, has anyone tested this yet?
Any thoughts on the quality?
Any thoughts on the quality?
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