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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
- Thread starter Overdoziz
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What's the deal with the mini cove glitch in spartan ops? Is there a known trigger for it? Just tried to play one of the ragnarok missions with a friend just getting into halo, on legendary, and ran into this and had to quit. I remember having it happen to me once solo as well on the same mission iirc.
EagleBurnn
Banned
The stream finally reached 5k, they said they were going to announce the next 10 events if that happened right?
Moa
Member
The Covenant when they spawn in the pods are actually miniature, I assume sometimes they don't get larger the closer they get to the map.
EagleBurnn
Banned
The DMR is a better weapon, but that's the problem. It's too good. It destroys BTB
I feel dirty whenever I use the DMR and I kill a Carbine/LR/BR user.
Steelyuhas
Member
Feel it slut
Steelyuhas
Member
Moa
Member
Lol because the weapon sandbox didn't change since then.
But I agree BR starts and DMR on map.
But AGL shouldn't get any settings.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Time to respond:
Secondly, you are talking about what can be done to the DMR in H4's sandbox to balance it, which is of course limited by the other mechanics (namely perks) that 343 included. I'm talking about general halo balancing methods that can be applied to future titles or hypotheticals (like we're doing now.) So in general, you combat something being a "mini-sniper" by increasing the difficulty to aim at range rather than introducing randomness to accuracy. I want my shots to go where I am aiming, make it harder to aim.
I understand what you're getting at though. Perks and AA's really diminish what can be changed in this game since you risk making one useless.
Strafe speed: we are not talking about increasing it to affect one weapon, it needs increased as a fundamental design criterion. It is my opinion (and many others I assume) that an effective strafe is only benificial to halo gameplay. That can be expanded on (and has been) if needed.
Secondly, you are talking about what can be done to the DMR in H4's sandbox to balance it, which is of course limited by the other mechanics (namely perks) that 343 included. I'm talking about general halo balancing methods that can be applied to future titles or hypotheticals (like we're doing now.) So in general, you combat something being a "mini-sniper" by increasing the difficulty to aim at range rather than introducing randomness to accuracy. I want my shots to go where I am aiming, make it harder to aim.
I understand what you're getting at though. Perks and AA's really diminish what can be changed in this game since you risk making one useless.
YourExWife
Member
Warriors need to pay more attention to the weapons/powerups and less on trying to pull off crazy/stupid crap.
The DMR ruins every mid-sized/big map and it makes weapons like the BR pretty useless.
It also forces you to use it, because you don't have any chance at longer distances.
I don't have that much fun in Halo 4, but I would like to have it.
I know, it was a little bit over the top and I shouldn't say "kill it". A simple nerf of the DMR or a buff of other weapons would help probably...
Steelyuhas
Member
People hate fun.
It is known.
Look at those opinions.
Every person ever must agree with that.
Because the issue is that there aren't any significant factors making the DMR hard to use at range, combined with a combination of high assist and sluggish movement that makes it hard to respond no matter what weapon you're using. Regardless of how powerful other weapons may or may not be, Halo 4's gunplay as is is hard on most maps that attempt to have an interesting central flow, at least maps that are bigger than "tiny." Like Ragnarok.
This is probably the reason why Halo 4's map pool is so heavily constituant of twisted piles of debris. Making sure that lines of sight and movement are messy is the easiest way to make sure that things actually flow.
Tha Robbertster
Member
You can't say there's no improvement! I lay all the blame with my German neighbor, who was babysitting my brother and I when I was 5. He just abandoned us in the middle of the night or something like that. Nobody was home.
That's youth trauma right there.
xxjuicesxx
Member
They should reduce the size of the maps to reduce the DMR's advantage.
fuck yea MIDSHIP.
fuck yea MIDSHIP.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Nice 2 for 1 sniper by Ninja!
SPACECADET
Member
damn ninja, that was dreamy.
Moa
Member
Then the cheeky snipe on the guy top mid.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Hopefully you've had this answered already. That usually denotes an operation called a norm. There are different types, and it's similar to absolute value applied to matrices and vectors. However, you said this is a calculus problem so that may not make sense. Put it in context of whatever you're learning, I'd say it's just absolute value.
Now, you are getting ridiculous...
Of course, I'm speaking of my opinions and nobody forces you to agree with them.
Edit:
But this doesn't fix the problem for big team. I would agree with maps like Midship, though. Hopefully the next map pack will include some really good competitive small maps.
What would buffing the BR do for the fact you can shoot across 80% of the map with a DMR. I don't know why others don't see this. It completely ruins BTB and makes open maps basically one side pinging the other from a distance.
It's not a solid starting weapon, it's a powerful starting weapon that essentially makes all other starting weapons obsolete. Pair a DMR with a boltshot and the no flinch perk, and you can pretty much take down anyone, anytime and almost anywhere on the map. Add in personal ordnance, and a person barely has to move at all. He can take down users from a distance with ease and those that get close are destroyed by a boltshot.
Something needs to change, it's just not fun anymore. If you don't want to remove it, do what steel, bigshow, Zoso posted and increase strafe ability, reduce auto aim, make the rate of fire slower. And like Rakka also posted. I am +1200 with the DMR, and like +300 with the boltshot. I wonder what these numbers would be like in another few months.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
I think I found what it is. It's simlar to a modulus, if X is a vector, then ||X|| = SQRT((X1)²+(X2²)). Thanks.
Steelyuhas
Member
You just posted that "most people agree" that the DMR sucks.
We know ya'll hatin' on the stream chat. BUCK BUCK BUCK.
xxjuicesxx
Member
BTB is already fucked. Its got vehicles, its bad, its got guests and shitty matches.
In fact I would say this BTB focused map size distribution is one of the main factors in how destroyed H4's population is. Everyone plays Slayer and then gets bored of the two maps constantly picked and calls it a day.
I stand corrected.
Huh? I read most of the times that people think it is to versatile and it should be on map weapon. Also many people think a BR and a DMR together in one game isn't good.
I did not get the impression that he meant the DMR "sucks"
Steelyuhas
Member
Not the point I'm trying to make, I'm saying you can't just say that "most people agree" on something based on your impression of what you read on a forum.
YourExWife
Member
YO YO YO YO YO! LET'S SEE HOW MANY RETWERPS WE GONNA GET! #BRAZILIAN! YA'LL JUST HATERS. LET'S GET TO 10K MOFOS! SHOUTOUTS TO ASTRO, BITCHES!
Am I doing it right?
I like to look at it as an offensive counter sniping weapon. A moderate issue with Halo 3 BTB was that when someone had the sniper, they could easily* become a death machine. The things that could stop it were a vehicle or another sniper. With the DMR still in the game, and as a pickup, there's another threat to the sniper. As a bonus, it can give competitive players a utility weapon similar to the CE pistol.
*assuming they were slightly above average