I'm very curious to see if it'll make it to launch or not. It may just quietly disappear before it hits the market.Yet another confirmation of always online. Sad. Really hoping Sony doesn't do it.
I'm very curious to see if it'll make it to launch or not. It may just quietly disappear before it hits the market.
Relax people, B3D speculation about double flops on X720 jaguar is just that... speculation.
Planetside 2 runs at 10-15 fps in bigger fights on cpus more powerful than what's supposed to be in ps4.
You aren't worried because most games have been designed around the super weak console cpus.
Just the UI of many mmos (yes that's right, the UI on its own) can bring a low/mid end cpu to its knees.
Turn off the ui in tera (which uses scaleform) and your framerate will double.
Is there a link to this?
Would be a bit comical if all this speculation was based on....well, speculation.
Is there a link to this?
Would be a bit comical if all this speculation was based on....well, speculation.
Achieving twice the flops per core is not something trivial that can be obtained with simple tweaks.
If it's true the cores they're using can't even be called Jaguar, they're just something else much more powerful and that goes against all the known speculation so far.
So before an other 'secret sauce' case is created it would be better to just relax and see how PS4 actual specs compare to the leaked/rumored ones in a few days just to begin with. Then we'll get an idea about how these leaks have been accurate so far and we'll continue with the next Xbox speculation.
How would you magically make jaguar cores twice as fast?
Passing along some info I just posted on B3D.
Xbox 3's CPU from a FLOPs perspective seems it may have as much as double the performance of "vanilla" Jaguar cores.
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It's frowned upon in this topics to tease...
Some people want some speculation to be rumors and others to be purely speculation.
Yes. It is.
To all: I hope your sources don't mind your accounts being on the line, regardless of whether or not you choose to divulge who that source is. Because they are. "Things change" doesn't really work for me when you choose to spill information.
It's cool to know MS spent at least some time and effort to get a better cpu. I don't know why that was a priority but I guess Cell helped with graphics a lot.
Don't understand why some people started reacting badly about the info BG is passing, did I miss the bad news?
What's this about?
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1707848&postcount=2263
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1707853&postcount=2265
These speculations are all over the place. Ugh. I can't wait till this is all over on the 20th. For PS4 at least.
Do you guys think we'll get more, real, specs for durango once sony announces theirs?
EDIT- Where are you going, bgassassi?
What's this about?
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1707848&postcount=2263
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1707853&postcount=2265
These speculations are all over the place. Ugh. I can't wait till this is all over on the 20th. For PS4 at least.
Do you guys think we'll get more, real, specs for durango once sony announces theirs?
EDIT- Where are you going, bgassassi?
Where is the confusion? All the liars will punished. Though I do not hold the power of final judgement, seems fair to me.
Think before you post.
Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
I heard otherwise. Though my details were vague. I by no means have insider info, but instead 3rd hand info.
Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
If you're saying that those more or less dedicated compute units would be working full time on camera analysis, that's almost for sure not going to be the case. I really doubt those cameras would be running during gameplay for most games, other than those that would be made to use their functionality, of course. If that was the case, they'd never even mention those CUs could be used for various things, including graphics if required.I actually wanted to wait until the 20th to say this, but I think if the dual camera of the orbis is standard, then it makes it easier to understand why those 4CUs are reserved for compute. From b3d, bkilian, one of the MS dev involved with kinect, said that without having a depth camera onboard, the cost of analyzing depth information from a normal camera in compute terms is in the hundreds of flops. From the vgleaks, the dual camera will enable some OS level face and hand tracking, so I won't be surprised if it is one of the application these reserved CUs will be working on. Of course I might be wrong as these are all speculation on my part.
Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
So now we have different developers going back and forth. Awesome.
Avatar graphics confirmed?
No chance
good to hear about Dice having a hand.Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
How did the Wii do it?
You know if the difference is similar to xbox vs gcn then that makes what llherre said more correct. gcn, while not a match to the xbox in absolute terms could do alot of things better than the xbox although utlimately the xbox would come out on top. Llherre did say that both consoles were close, with somethings favoring one or the other, and that at the end of the day it will be another ps360 situation. I feel we will get more details as we go along, what with the rumor of the MEC kinect processor in durango and its particularly beastly audio dsp. I just think that at the end of the day, it will not be as clear cut as it seems.
I think he's a dev. posts on b3d a lot, but not sure how certain the cpu rumour is. I'm glad durango's cpu is twice as powerful as pathetic netbook jaguar but I hope orbis has some modifications too at least. This sounds like a reversal where microsoft is focusing on cpu more this time and sony on gpu. Doesn't make sense. I hope we get more details next week. Once I know next gen cpus and gpus are stronger then people thought, I won't have to worry about the hardware anymore.
This is awesome news since Ubi has been pushing for higher specs for a while and since DICE's FB 2.0 engine will be powering all EA games next gen.Easy there partner, I've personally heard Orbis has a noticable power advantage over Durango. Akin to Gamecube --> Xbox. DICE and Ubi are also rumored to love the machine and had a healthy hand in criticism.
This is awesome news since Ubi has been pushing for higher specs for a while and since DICE's FB 2.0 engine will be powering all EA games next gen.