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[Forum Rumor] Durango Beta has 2 APUs. Console and Controller plastered with stripes.

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Radec

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Boggles my mind why is this thread keeps popping up in the first page where the source itself calls you have a negative intelligence for believing it.
 

Master_JO

Banned
Nobody is allowed to speculate about the Durango unless it's negative and the hardware is less powerful than the PS4.

New info : Durango will have 6 GB of total RAM. 5 is deticated for kinect and OS, 1 For games.
Durango will have only one gamer profile stricted.
Durango dos not support blueray movies.
Durango will have kinect as a main controller.
Durango will ship with 7 different colors: Blue,yellow, Green,brown, White, black, Pink.
Durango will require an internet connection witn at least 70Mb/S
Durango Will not support splitt screen. You have to buy another console.
Durango will only work with 50 inch and above tv's.
Durango Ships with only a console and kinect. You have to buy a controller.
Durango can not be turned on and play games unless you register a creditcard.
Durango must be turned off to cool down after being active for 2 hours.
Durango must be talked to via kinect to stay alive or it will get ill and resulting in self destruction.
Durango Must watch you and your family at least 1 hour each day( Everywhere)
Durango will not have FPS nor sport games at it self aware and dos not believe in violence.
last but not least : Durango name is YBoY if you do not choos the pink.
If you Choose the pink the name will be : GBoX

s/

Speculate now. Wich color do you want :D
 

Ding-Ding

Member
maybe ps4 threads are mostly based in reality,while in durango threads think that ms will write a blank check for xbox forever?

You have hit the nail right on the head.

You just have to look at the threads from when the sites started leaking information.

With Durango its been special sauce this, wizard jizz that and its in the data move engines, the GPU's GCN, its in the CPU, no wait its 2 APU's.

With PS4, when a site indicated Sony would match RAM, 8GB of GDDR5 was "never gonna happen"

The difference between the two bases has been alarming. One was very much grounded in reality, while the other has been away with the fucking fairies. So is it surprising that people have been taking the piss.

In all honesty, I blame the likes of Proelite & Aegies. They where the ones who started this nonsense, yet they are now virtually invisible while Reiko puts himself in a box meant for them and we label it stupid.
 
it make sense that negative feedback has more buzz than a positive feedback.


same thing happens to Nintendo with WII u and Sony for VITA. its part of the video gaming forums.
 
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This just makes me feel empty inside after the kaz ones.... like when you go to some burger place and you wish you went to MacDonalds instead.
 

kmag

Member
Has anyone actually serious suggested there are two identical APU's on the system? It's relatively easy to imagine an additional much weaker APU (ARM and probably a limited mobile type GPU) for low power usage as a set top box and for maybe running the OS.
 
Because someone asked to create a topic and I did.

What's terrible is the difference between Durango topics and PS4 topics.

Durango topics are usually filled with venom and snide remarks, even sometimes to the OP. While PS4 topics are usually civil, like the one that just went up recently. This type of behavior has to stop.

Seriously?

I think that's your own bias - there's plenty of shit in both sets of threads and there always will be if PS3 and Xbox have been anything to go by.

I guess a lot of the 'snide remarks' would stop if MS would at least deny some of the more negative rumours about online DRM, no used games, underpowered hardware and FORCED DOWN YOUR THROAT Kinect.... they could do that without revealing anything.

They are, instead, choosing to completely ignore their fanbase while Sony makes hay.

There's no real cause for any current situation other than Microsofts actions or your own response to the situation that has created.

People are uneasy because right now the best information we have suggests there's things to be uneasy about... when (if) those things are confirmed as true / untrue, then I'm sure the situation on the forums will change.


Unless you are suggested there's some sort of axe to grind, which would be odd... if anything it should be MS who has the goodwill of gamers right now - they've had a great time during the second half of this generation.


Has anyone actually serious suggested there are two identical APU's on the system? It's relatively easy to imagine an additional much weaker APU (ARM and probably a limited mobile type GPU) for low power usage as a set top box and for maybe running the OS.

Agreed... when we found out about the ARM chip in PS4, no on went OMG IT HAS TWO CPU's - most likely any second chip is for kinect, low power functions, or runs thing like video upload in the background like on PS4.
 
it make sense that negative feedback has more buzz than a positive feedback.


same thing happens to Nintendo with WII u and Sony for VITA. its part of the video gaming forums.

Yes but their failure is a known quantity and the hype and lead up to those system launches were positively MASTURBATORY.

Durango hasn't even been announced yet.


New info : Durango will have 6 GB of total RAM. 5 is deticated for kinect and OS, 1 For games.
Durango will have only one gamer profile stricted.
Durango dos not support blueray movies.
Durango will have kinect as a main controller.
Durango will ship with 7 different colors: Blue,yellow, Green,brown, White, black, Pink.
Durango will require an internet connection witn at least 70Mb/S
Durango Will not support splitt screen. You have to buy another console.
Durango will only work with 50 inch and above tv's.
Durango Ships with only a console and kinect. You have to buy a controller.
Durango can not be turned on and play games unless you register a creditcard.
Durango must be turned off to cool down after being active for 2 hours.
Durango must be talked to via kinect to stay alive or it will get ill and resulting in self destruction.
Durango Must watch you and your family at least 1 hour each day( Everywhere)
Durango will not have FPS nor sport games at it self aware and dos not believe in violence.
last but not least : Durango name is YBoY if you do not choos the pink.
If you Choose the pink the name will be : GBoX

s/

Speculate now. Wich color do you want :D

I hear it only comes in baby pink so I'll just get a Wii U~
 

Satchel

Banned
maybe ps4 threads are mostly based in reality,while in durango threads think that ms will write a blank check for xbox forever?

Funny you say that.

I postyed a long time ago suggesting that the new Xbox and PS4 might have 2GB of RAM, and was called crazy for that

Yet here we are.

In all honesty, I'm not au fait with tech enough to know what's crazy and what's not. I can be mesmerised by tech talk.

But after being called a nut for suggesting 2GB (maybe even 4) of RAM is possible, I refuse to dismiss any possibility at this stage. Especially from a company with pockets as deep as Microsoft's.

Half the fun of this shit is anticipation. Don't get me wrong, we almost inevitably get let down more often than not, but still, it's exciting none the less. I was genuinely taken aback by the Dualshock 4 design for example. I genuinely like it. I actually found the most appealing reveal to be the one of the dedicated processor for background downloads and updates. It means Sony is possibly taking the OS seriously this time.
 
You have hit the nail right on the head.

You just have to look at the threads from when the sites started leaking information.

With Durango its been special sauce this, wizard jizz that and its in the data move engines, the GPU's GCN, its in the CPU, no wait its 2 APU's.

With PS4, when a site indicated Sony would match RAM, 8GB of GDDR5 was "never gonna happen"

The difference between the two bases has been alarming. One was very much grounded in reality, while the other has been away with the fucking fairies. So is it surprising that people have been taking the piss.

In all honesty, I blame the likes of Proelite & Aegies. They where the ones who started this nonsense, yet they are now virtually invisible while Reiko puts himself in a box meant for them and we label it stupid.



Since when is the dual apu thing not grounded in reality? I mean by your logic that would mean Microsoft isn't grounded in reality even though they had somebody working on dual apu design with the Yukon leaks, and we know that document is real because the illumiroom is one of the slides.
 
Only thing Kotaku talked about was the stripes , not duel Apu's in the recent article .

Yeah, but the point is, if Kotaku published the article about the stripes AFTER this post, how the hell did this guy know about the stripes? I doubt it was a wild guess.
 

Alx

Member
New info : Durango will have 6 GB of total RAM. 5 is deticated for kinect and OS, 1 For games.
Durango will have only one gamer profile stricted.
Durango dos not support blueray movies.
Durango will have kinect as a main controller.
Durango will ship with 7 different colors: Blue,yellow, Green,brown, White, black, Pink.
Durango will require an internet connection witn at least 70Mb/S
Durango Will not support splitt screen. You have to buy another console.
Durango will only work with 50 inch and above tv's.
Durango Ships with only a console and kinect. You have to buy a controller.
Durango can not be turned on and play games unless you register a creditcard.
Durango must be turned off to cool down after being active for 2 hours.
Durango must be talked to via kinect to stay alive or it will get ill and resulting in self destruction.
Durango Must watch you and your family at least 1 hour each day( Everywhere)
Durango will not have FPS nor sport games at it self aware and dos not believe in violence.
last but not least : Durango name is YBoY if you do not choos the pink.
If you Choose the pink the name will be : GBoX

s/

Speculate now. Wich color do you want :D

:D
The availability of all the petaflops of the Durango hardware will depend on its mood of te moment. You'll have to cheer it up or use baby talk to get the best performances. Tell a joke to double the framerate.
 
:D
The availability of all the petaflops of the Durango hardware will depend on its mood of te moment. You'll have to cheer it up or use baby talk to get the best performances. Tell a joke to double the framerate.

I wonder how accurately Kinect can read pelvic thrusts..
 

itsgreen

Member
Considering that he didn't specify the APU's, considering the time it takes to produce a chip...

I don't think this is unlikely.

BECAUSE
They could easily have two A10's in there to emulate final specs...

2x 4 cores = ? cores
2x 384 graphic cores (6 cu's) = ? cu's

Durango rumoured specs are = ? cores & ? cu's

AAAANNNND rumour defused.

(not 100% sure on how many cores there are in a CU, but I believe there were 64 and that would make perfect sense)
 

Master_JO

Banned
:D
The availability of all the petaflops of the Durango hardware will depend on its mood of te moment. You'll have to cheer it up or use baby talk to get the best performances. Tell a joke to double the framerate.

HAHAHA. What happend if you gets it in da MOOOD :D
 
You have hit the nail right on the head.

You just have to look at the threads from when the sites started leaking information.

With Durango its been special sauce this, wizard jizz that and its in the data move engines, the GPU's GCN, its in the CPU, no wait its 2 APU's.

With PS4, when a site indicated Sony would match RAM, 8GB of GDDR5 was "never gonna happen"

The difference between the two bases has been alarming. One was very much grounded in reality, while the other has been away with the fucking fairies. So is it surprising that people have been taking the piss.

In all honesty, I blame the likes of Proelite & Aegies. They where the ones who started this nonsense, yet they are now virtually invisible while Reiko puts himself in a box meant for them and we label it stupid.

it's also a case of actual specs versus guesswork. far too many statements of fact about something that has yet to be confirmed or detailed, it's just as bad. The talk of the magical abilities of some extra ram has been fairy dust too to be honest, it's the new cell.

console wars are always full of nonsense.

I just hope MS soon clarify what the are actually selling so people will know one the truth and can then have their fights about it.
 

GopherD

Member
I don't think in a few weeks that Xbox fans are going to care what is under the hood. Picking just one box this holiday is going to be a tough choice.
 
The PS4 rumors and Durango rumors originated from VGLeaks. Later on, PS4 was rumoured to have double the amount of RAM they started with, by VGLeaks again. That rumor was in the realm of possibility because PS4 already had 4GB of GDDR5.

This rumor:
1. Is from a shady source
2. Deviates too much from the VGLeaks documents

Yet you wonder why Durango threads always go down the gutter. It's sad how desperate people are for good Durango specs. If the 720 won't turn out powerful or as powerful as you hoped it to be, just get a PS4. This time around, you'll get plenty of third party support and you'll guaranteed of great first party support.
 

abadguy

Banned
Nobody is allowed to speculate about the Durango unless it's negative and the hardware is less powerful than the PS4.

This is really all that needs to be said. There was just as much crazy speculation in Orbis threads and if they are "grounded in reality" now it's because they have concrete info to go on. Kinda hard not be to be realistic as this point.

Frankly the thought of any console maker releasing hardware at this point that needs to have an online connection to function is about as "grounded in reality" as any of the crazy fan theory speculation going on in Durango threads. But since it involves MS/Xbox and negativity, it's somehow considered believable.

Now i'll wait for someone with a Kaz Avatar to come along and tell me that we are "imagining" the obvious bias in these threads.


I want to know why so many assume people will only get one console?

Aren't most GAFfers multi console owners?

I have a WiiU and already have a nice chunk of cash stashed away for these two. Why would the specs on either matter? The WiiU is weaker, so?

OR is all this console wars shit back and forth coming from insecure folk who can only afford one console? Because that would make more sense.

Almost always the case.
 

Ding-Ding

Member
Since when is the dual apu thing not grounded in reality? I mean by your logic that would mean Microsoft isn't grounded in reality even though they had somebody working on dual apu design with the Yukon leaks, and we know that document is real because the illumiroom is one of the slides.

The point is its not grounded in reality because MS supporters are putting rumours from Chinese internet forums & very early documentation above leaks from 2013.

That is exactly why people think those that think the Xbox side of this forum are just rambling. The leaks are grounded in reality, yet still they are ignored in favour of the shit thats been posted in this thread.
 

Satchel

Banned
The PS4 rumors and Durango rumors originated from VGLeaks. Later on, PS4 was rumoured to have double the amount of RAM they started with, by VGLeaks again. That rumor was in the realm of possibility because PS4 already had 4GB of GDDR5.

This rumor:
1. Is from a shady source
2. Deviates too much from the VGLeaks documents

Yet you wonder why Durango threads always go down the gutter. It's sad how desperate people are for good Durango specs. If the 720 won't turn out powerful or as powerful as you hoped it to be, just get a PS4. This time around, you'll get plenty of third party support and you'll guaranteed of great first party support.

I want to know why so many assume people will only get one console?

Aren't most GAFfers multi console owners?

I have a WiiU and already have a nice chunk of cash stashed away for these two. Why would the specs on either matter? The WiiU is weaker, so?

OR is all this console wars shit back and forth coming from insecure folk who can only afford one console? Because that would make more sense.
 

itsgreen

Member
The PS4 rumors and Durango rumors originated from VGLeaks. Later on, PS4 was rumoured to have double the amount of RAM they started with, by VGLeaks again. That rumor was in the realm of possibility because PS4 already had 4GB of GDDR5.

This rumor:
1. Is from a shady source
2. Deviates too much from the VGLeaks documents

Yet you wonder why Durango threads always go down the gutter. It's sad how desperate people are for good Durango specs. If the 720 won't turn out powerful or as powerful as you hoped it to be, just get a PS4. This time around, you'll get plenty of third party support and you'll guaranteed of great first party support.

What does this rumour say: two apu's in dev kit.

What are the rumoured final specs: 8 cpu cores, 12 gpu cu's.

AMD offers A10's that have 4 cpu cores and 6 cu's.

What do you get if you put 2x A10's in a dev kit?

8 cpu cores and 12 cu's.

Nothing has changed.
 
I don't believe adults act like "console wars" kids because they only afford one console, I think it gives an insight into what they are like as a person, nothing more.
 
Are we assuming that most people here who take part in "Console War" talks are actually adults?

From experience of going to expos and events, mixing and talking to gamers who are adults I have no reason to believe otherwise.

I have met some utterly vile adults who are gamers and some great ones too. It's easy to assume its just kids.
 

gaming_noob

Member
I don't think in a few weeks that Xbox fans are going to care what is under the hood. Picking just one box this holiday is going to be a tough choice.

Very interesting.
New way of playing? There's been many hints about the way you play the next Xbox being different. This might be something special.
 
What does this rumour say: two apu's in dev kit.

What are the rumoured final specs: 8 cpu cores, 12 gpu cu's.

AMD offers A10's that have 4 cpu cores and 6 cu's.

What do you get if you put 2x A10's in a dev kit?

8 cpu cores and 12 cu's.

Nothing has changed.
I think beta kit would already come with 1 APU(close to final design)
 
I want to know why so many assume people will only get one console?

Aren't most GAFfers multi console owners?

I have a WiiU and already have a nice chunk of cash stashed away for these two. Why would the specs on either matter? The WiiU is weaker, so?

OR is all this console wars shit back and forth coming from insecure folk who can only afford one console? Because that would make more sense.

its in our best interest as gamers that both console are like 5% difference in performance.
Not 50% difference as things are standing now in ps4 advantage. And its also better for pc gamers.
 

itsgreen

Member
I think beta kit would already come with 1 APU(close to final design)

Nah, there is still plenty of time to go.

At this time in 2005 Xbox 360 dev kits still were Apple Power PC's and they were for some time. I believe final devkits were delivered in september 2005...
 
People dismiss one anonymous forum post as garbage but completely buy into another anonymous forum post stating that the OP has "negative intelligence". No one ever said console wars are rational.

Dual APU thing is most likely false but there's no reason to jump all over the OP, it's clearly stated in the title the state of the rumor. If the mods close it so be it.
 

shandy706

Member
Yeah, but the point is, if Kotaku published the article about the stripes AFTER this post, how the hell did this guy know about the stripes? I doubt it was a wild guess.

NOT A SINGLE person who is convinced the info is false has addressed this.

How did this guy know about THE STRIPED BETA KITS before sites published that information????????

Is he trying to cover his tail now? Also, is something lost in translation on his second post?

Again, how did he know beta kit exterior design info BEFORE it was publicly posted?
 

slider

Member
NOT A SINGLE person who is convinced the info is false has addressed this.

How did this guy know about THE STRIPED BETA KITS before sites published that information????????

Is he trying to cover his tail now? Also, is something lost in translation on his second post?

Again, how did he know beta kit exterior design info BEFORE it was publicly posted?

I'd guess because:

a) Either he has access to a (recently shipped?) devkit
or
b) He knows someone who told him

Not that exciting I know.

But the more pertinent question is how does his knowledge of the zebra stripes frame his 2 APU rumour (and the comment thereafter)?

I've just realised my post is pointless but I'm gonna hit submit anyway...
 

sflufan

Banned
NOT A SINGLE person who is convinced the info is false has addressed this.

How did this guy know about THE STRIPED BETA KITS before sites published that information????????

Is he trying to cover his tail now? Also, is something lost in translation on his second post?

Again, how did he know beta kit exterior design info BEFORE it was publicly posted?

Easy: the striped beta kits are pure bullshit too because no one has produced any real evidence of the validity of the rumor.

Can we please move on now?
 

Master_JO

Banned
NOT A SINGLE person who is convinced the info is false has addressed this.

How did this guy know about THE STRIPED BETA KITS before sites published that information????????

Is he trying to cover his tail now? Also, is something lost in translation on his second post?

Again, how did he know beta kit exterior design info BEFORE it was publicly posted?

Logic...You can not find it in wars :D
 

sTeLioSco

Banned
NOT A SINGLE person who is convinced the info is false has addressed this.

How did this guy know about THE STRIPED BETA KITS before sites published that information????????

Is he trying to cover his tail now? Also, is something lost in translation on his second post?

Again, how did he know beta kit exterior design info BEFORE it was publicly posted?

He is the chinese aegis.....

some true facts from sources combined with wishful thinking and pro ms bias.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Easy: the striped beta kits are pure bullshit too because no one has produced any real evidence of the validity of the rumor.

Can we please move on now?
Same goes for every other rumour. Crap argument unless you don't want to be discussing rumours period.

Also it's corroborated by four unnamed developer sources by Kotaku.
 

Durante

Member
I haven't read the entire thread, but has anyone made any technical argument as to why a dual APU design would be a good idea in any way, shape or form?
 

QaaQer

Member
I haven't read the entire thread, but has anyone made any technical argument as to why a dual APU design would be a good idea in any way, shape or form?

No. Except in a vague speculative sense where it would be an asymmetrical pair, with one running persistent OS gui/functionality stuff based on a low power config, and the other being employed during gaming.
 
According to some stuff I read around here, they would need more than 2.6 TFLOPS to make any real difference compared to PS4 (because 1.2 vs 1.84 wouldn't make much of a difference for some). So they still have a way to go ;D

4 APUs in dual Crossfire or bust!
 
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