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TVTVTVTVTV! Xbox One Goes to Hollywood

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Drachma

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GANGSTERKILLER said:
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lmao

What is that?
 
Oppo

Oppo

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Anything that makes Les Moonves happy is inherently bad for the rest of us.

Once again, XBone seems custom tailored to solve MS content delivery problems, primarily.
 
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Iced_Eagle

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Guevara said:
Yeah but the showstopper will be: best case scenario the Xbone sells 80M consoles in 5-7 years. And that's spread between (mostly) US, UK/Western Europe, and then the ROW.

Ok. But there are right now in America 100M cable subscribers.

Or if you're more forward thinking: 30M Netflix subscribers in the U.S.

If you're looking for a home for content, the Xbone wouldn't be my first choice.
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What are you talking about? I don't follow.

Also, I think it's so inaccurate that people think Netflix is a replacement for TV. It is not. Please, tell me when I can watch Live events on Netflix, and we can start to talk. If anything, the thing that will replace cable will be IPTV. Netflix and Amazon Video are complements to TV, not replacements.

RadarScope1 said:
It really is the 1990s all over again. Let me just state an irrefutable fact: you cannot marry the "storytelling power of TV with the interactive nature of games." It's a fucking pipe dream. They are two different mediums. At best, you'll get a half-baked version of what Kojima does. At worst, you get Night Trap and Sewer Shark.
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Irrefutable? It's barely been done. Let alone you start to throw in things like Kinect, Smartglass, and you can do more interesting things that weren't possible before. It's absolutely worth experimenting with.

Hell, 1vs100 on XBL was an interactive live game show, just like TV and it was pretty fucking awesome actually.
 
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Sethos

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ChosenPredator said:
Yeah, it's never bad to have options to make someone want to stay on the console, pretty sure Sony is going to do the same thing in some sort of form at E3, but it's the thing to poopoo on microsoft in every thread, lol.
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It's hard to take your posts serious as some sort of neutral balance when you have an avatar like that.
 
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Marty Chinn

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Jay-B said:
Wouldn't these talks with TV execs have already happened months ago? If they showed live CBS during the reveal I thought the networks were already on board.
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They don't need agreements with anyone to show your cable/satellite box through the Xbox One.
 
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Guevara

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Iced_Eagle said:
What are you talking about? I don't follow.

Also, I think it's so inaccurate that people think Netflix is a replacement for TV. It is not. Please, tell me when I can watch Live events on Netflix, and we can start to talk. If anything, the thing that will replace cable will be IPTV. Netflix and Amazon Video are complements to TV, not replacements.
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My point is: if you have awesome new content, why would you put it on the Xbone? It's new, unproven, and will have a smaller userbase than Netflix or Cable for the next several years.

The only content that would make sense is if it's targeted at the Xbox demographic and/or are subsidized by Microsoft (the Halo series).
 
corrosivefrost

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When I read the title, I -- for some unknown reason -- pictured Hollywood Squares back on the air with the XBone sitting in the center square position. Silly. I know. But the mental image amuses me greatly. :D
 
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madmackem

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I dont know why ms thinks none gamers are going to buy this expensive box that does very very little that other boxes they already own or cheaper boxes already do.
 
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Marty Chinn

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Guevara said:
My point is: if you have awesome new content, why would you put it on the Xbone? It's new, unproven, and will have a smaller userbase than Netflix or Cable for the next several years.

The only content that would make sense is if it's targeted at the Xbox demographic and/or are subsidized by Microsoft (the Halo series).
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Did it ever say it was exclusive? They can have content, and then content enhanced with the Xbox One which is already what they've been talking about. Plus it's best to talk to them early, get them to notice, show their vision and then when the install base comes, they will already be extremely familiar with Microsoft's vision and on good terms with them due to early talks.
 
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Iced_Eagle

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Guevara said:
My point is: if you have awesome new content, why would you put it on the Xbone? It's new, unproven, and will have a smaller userbase than Netflix or Cable for the next several years.

The only content that would make sense is if it's targeted at the Xbox demographic and/or are subsidized by Microsoft (the Halo series).
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Oh, I see what you're saying now.

Yeah, it's a good point. It's going to be interesting to see how much content MS makes in-house with the new Xbox Entertainment Studios in LA, and how much is done in partnership with someone else.

However, there are more Xbox Live subscribers than there are Netflix subscribers (46m+ Gold subscribers). They are also appealing to the hundreds of millions of people around the world who still subscribe to cable as well. Yes, their new Guide will launch first in the US, but it will of course expand over time. MS is aiming for an extremely broad market, so they're hoping to sell a lot of units. I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Xbox One offered subsidized from Comcast or other cable providers, pushing its adoption further. The potential market for the Xbox One is huge because it covers so many bases.
 
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AstroNut325

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I for one welcome this! Expanded multimedia capabilities and features is always a plus to me. So this doesn't bother me the least bit. But what does bother me is this:

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and this:

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That is what I find offensive.
 
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netBuff

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ShOcKwAvE said:
A weird sense of entitlement, as if MS owes them a dedicated gaming machine.

If MS thinks they'll gain more by expanding into TV than they'll lose by moving away from games, that's their decision. I will enjoy it either way.
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People are absolutely entitled to not like Microsoft's new "cable box" direction for their Xbone - just because you will enjoy whatever they put out doesn't mean everyone else has to accept their strategy without complaint. Even not buying the system doesn't mean voicing concerns is disallowed.

Iced_Eagle said:
What are you talking about? I don't follow.

Also, I think it's so inaccurate that people think Netflix is a replacement for TV. It is not. Please, tell me when I can watch Live events on Netflix, and we can start to talk. If anything, the thing that will replace cable will be IPTV. Netflix and Amazon Video are complements to TV, not replacements.

Irrefutable? It's barely been done. Let alone you start to throw in things like Kinect, Smartglass, and you can do more interesting things that weren't possible before. It's absolutely worth experimenting with.
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TV networks will continue to seek the widest possible audience: The Xbox will most likely continue to remain a bit player in this arena, despite what Microsoft hopes to achieve. Established platforms will be glad to serve live streams in addition to on-demand programming.

And I think for many people, Netflix and Amazon Video are actually replacements for TV: I personally haven't had a cable subscription in years, the same for many people I know. Live TV is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

Kinect doesn't have any real potential for TV, and Smartglass can't do anything that smartphones and tablets aren't already able to do without being tethered to a black box in the living room. Microsoft just can't offer networks much interesting potential.

And there's the question whether the typical TV watcher is even interested in transforming the medium into an active format. The failure of 1 vs 100 and myriads of similar format that were tried in the early 2000s would suggest: No.

Iced_Eagle said:
MS opened a new division just to focus on this stuff. It's not like it's taking anything away from the games side. Think of it as an equivalent of Sony Pictures, but for MS (but nowhere near as big since they likely aren't going to do theatrical releases or anything like that).
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It's clearly taking away plenty of resources that would have otherwise been reserved for developing interesting games. Microsoft's lack of interest in indie gaming also clearly shows that their TV obsession IS taking away from gaming.
 
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