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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
This is weird because all sites are saying PS4 version looks sharper... even Polygon.
XBO looks a lot sharper in pretty much all the comparison photos. However, I've noticed in other photos the lighting on the PS4 is better and I notice more detail due to some of the XBO looking so dark. Also, the jaggies are more noticeable in the XBO. The PS4's higher resolution is the reason it's not jaggy or it's the more blurred softness that's masking it. I'm only simply going by what I am seeing in these screenshots and animated GIFs. If it weren't for some of the dark shadows that seem to sometimes obscure detail I'd say the XBO version looks better.
 
JackFrag's One footage looks much better than the DF footage, color wise.

Something is not right with the DF footage, it looks heavily doctored and unnatural, not saying they did it intentionally, but something caused it to look way oversharpened and the colours all ugly like.

It is heavily doctored.

Whether you think they did it intentionally probably scales with how closely you've followed the work of Digital Foundry and Richard Leadbetter, and your ability to smell the potent feces of male breeding cattle.
 
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Yep.
 

Derrick01

Banned
If you think some gaffers are having trouble noticing, so you think the differences will be as apparent to most consumers?

I was honestly expecting a much bloggers gulf than the ones we now.

No, they will just say "why does this game look so hideous? Did I accidentally turn my TV settings up?" and not even realize just how much better they could have had it if they bought the PS4 version.

Really for a cross gen launch title I'm actually astonished by how much better the ps4 version is. I thought it would take a year (pretty much when everyone finally moved 100% to ps4/xb1 development) for most games to really start showing the power gap. It's happening a lot already.
 
As these comparison gifs are rolling in, more and more, I'm seeing that the PS4 version appears to be better. At first, the contrast threw me off a bit.

Agreed. I was all for XBO in the beginning. But now? Yeesh, those jaggies on Xbox are not pretty.

Happy to be getting a PS4 in 18 days!
 

Cipherr

Member
what in the fuck is wrong with the gamma on the XBO videos?

I guess they think high contrast with crushed blacks will convince people its a better looking image?

It will in screenshots. Of course the XBO has a lower framerate too, so as soon as you play them side by side, that illusion to the untrained eye will count for exactly nothing. Parlor tricks.

artist said:
Despite pushing ~50% more pixels, that ~40% difference in frame-rate as well;

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Yeah.... see this right here just seals it up. More pixels and a higher average framerate means this is over. We now know what to expect from this upcoming gen.


Oh wow....

Yep, Xbox version is artificially sharp thanks to post-processing

PS4:
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PS4 "Xbone Mode" (Sharpening + Black Crush):
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Xbox One:
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Well done. This clearly demonstrates everything in a way that anyone can notice.

Get your "better detail" and a higher framerate + a higher resolution for $100 cheaper by adjusting your televisions sharpness, contrast and gamma. Meanwhile.... the consoles are officially setting us up for another 6 years of 900p and below bullshit.
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This is just weird. I expected there to be some difference, but its mostly very small to the point where I don't even care, yet some people are all freaking out and saying the tiniest detail is running the whole thing. I mean I noticed the differences like shadows, arms and the sky, but I am not really caring that much and only noticed when others brought it up or after looking for a few minutes.
 
Shit looks basically the same on conosles, if you care that much about looks buy the PC version.
Its definitely good enough on both consoles. No worries there and no reason for anybody to fret over their choice. But for those who do want fewer jaggies and a better framerate we know which one to pick up.
 

adixon

Member
I can't believe the same tactics used to sell LCDs in showrooms (overblown contrast and cranked sharpness) are working here.

Many folks seem to be looking at the comparison shots on cellphones and expecting to clearly see the difference... so it's not exactly surprising, is it?
 

GlassCity

Banned
Am I really reading that DF made the X1 version look better than it really does.

I'm done ....lol

After all of the stuff people have been spewing about the resolution difference making the PS4 WAY better we get this, and most people seem to be saying the X1 version looks better, or AT least on par with the PS4 version.

I'm at a loss for words...
 
Alright here we go.

Here is the Jack upload vs. the DF upload screens

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Top is the DF video, you can see the crushed blacks

Bottom is the Jack upload, same scene you can see the difference in the wheel black

DF did it on purpose from what I see

not saying they did it on purpose but somebody definitely fucked up. i was just about to post comparison pics
 
Washed out vs. crushed blacks. Is this going to be the new norm for cross-platform comparison videos?

We should have seen this coming. Well done, DF.
 

Boss Man

Member
Haha, I used to set my TV like this. Actually pretty genius on MS' side. People who see it for what it is are not who this was done for.
 

Pain

Banned
I'm watching the "Jack Frags" videos and the PS4 version looks better than what I just watched on the DF videos. WTF is going on here? Is DF intentionally fucking up the comparison?
Well they didn't fuck it up enough as in the PS4 footage still clearly looks better other than some contrast differences on XB1.
 

Klocker

Member
Here are the 3 possibilities:

-XBO over-saturates the blacks.
-DF used two different recording devices which compressed the footage differently.
-DF modified the footage.

or 4. DF left the gamma settings in game at 30% on both (as they said they did) so at default, and other people recorded using adjusted in game gamma
 
This comparison just looked like pretty much every multiplat comparison we've seen this gen. The Xbox version looks sharper with more contrast and vibrancy while the PS version looks washed out and has worse textures.

I preferred the Xbox version in all of the comparisons the few instances where the PS4 version had some particles flying around and stuff like that were nice and all but I'm not seeing this massive difference in power...
 

Alucrid

Banned
2 people looking at the exact same .gif. This is pointless everyone :(

All I want to know now (aside from the huge disparity in the DF and JF footage) is why the fuck the PS4 multiplayer was crashing, and why the X1 multiplayer wasn't shown at all. Both are concerning. Let's face it, just about no one gives a shit about the Campaign.

Well if he doesn't notice the camo changing entirely or the missing clouds, it's his eyes.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
This shot, clearly favors the xbone. Someone please find a zoom in spot where the ps4 looks better

Joke post?


Look at the lighting on the steps of the building in the center.


You can see the light on the steps in clear rings on the PS4.


On the xbox it looks like a couple horizontal lines....
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
I can see why Jack said the PS4 MP looked better than XB1 SP. The aliasing in the XB1 version is really bad and quite a distraction if you're a stickler for that stuff.
 

I-hate-u

Member
Why would you jump to this assumption? Because you're not happy with what your eyes are telling you?

Nope. My eyes tell me that the PS4 version has the better textures and details. For example, just look at the rear view mirror in this:
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I am not assuming anything. All I am saying that it altering footage comparisons for any system should unacceptable on GAF.
 
It's amazing how many people get their jollies off of High contrast images... I can only imagine how they have their TV set up... add the XO and they will have to crank the gama all the way up to see anything.
 
Anyone who says Xbox version looks better, especially with the numerous gif comparisons Wario has been posting, seriously needs their eyes examined.
 

Apocryphon

Member
It's frustrating that MS and/or Dice's trick to hide the massive flaws of the XB1 version is working on a lot of people here. It's pretty disingenuous of them to even try this stunt like no one would notice.

Frankly I'm disgusted at how many on here have been fooled by it already. Look at some of those pics, you can't even see the damn gun in the XB1 version.

Not just MS and Dice but DF too by the look of it. Jackfrags videos of the PS4 version looks way different to the DF PS4 footage.
 

Hyunashi

Member
Idk why u guys keep saying microsoft microsoft, sony sony. When DICE developed the games.

You guys don't think they play these on the dev units or something, when they are making the games? They know.

Why don't u guys ask DICE why the xbox one looks so dark and why some shots of the xbone looks sharper, but yet ps4 has higher frame rate and resolution.

Also this is near final build is what digital foundry said, anything else is just small tweaks so they can still tweak it before launch.

Please it comes down to the hardware limitations too.
 

Minions

Member
Well glad that is settled.... now I wonder if we will continue to see a resolution discrepancy in the long term, or if it will be a short term ESRAM related issue. Some how I don't think Microsoft is going to make these issues go away.... and the ESRAM is going to be Microsoft's "Cell" issue.
 
So the Xbox One version runs at a lower resolution and with a fluctuating frame rate? That sounds god awful. I think as the generation goes on you're going to see a bigger divide between Xbox One and PS4 multiplatform titles.
 
Talked to someone I know again in the industry. Oh boy. GAF gonna be fun in the next couple of weeks.
I told a few people they'd be surprised not only by 900p on ps4, but also how X1 looks side by side to PS4 for battlefield 4. And to be honest, you are gonna see a bit more of that in the first year of next gen. Wait till you see CoD side by side on both, lol. Apart from CoD being CoD, it displays a lot of the similarities BF4 does.

I asked if Ghosts is 720p on the Xbone too:
Yup! Anyway proof of that will be out soon as well.
 
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