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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)

Into

Member
Exactly 'this thread', people are so seething that both versions look pretty much the same that they are clinging on to any little thing they can to show the PS4 version is better.

I can't really take much more of this place.

IGN, DF, JackFrags all agree, PS4 version does look better. Even DF has said it despite their fuck up.
 
And no one expected any different...

Pretty damn hard to tell from some of the reactions. People have literally said the xbox one version looks like a ps2 game. A ps2 game.

Perhaps DF's admitted botching of the PS4 capture?

IMO it isn't just DF footage. IGN footage also showcases a more vibrant xbox one look compared to a softer ps4 look. That isn't to say the ps4 version doesn't look amazing. It certainly does, but there's no missing the appearance of more aggressive lighting on xbox one, or something that gives off that impression.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Exactly 'this thread', people are so seething that both versions look pretty much the same that they are clinging on to any little thing they can to show the PS4 version is better.

I can't really take much more of this place.
Allow me to help
 

Facism

Member
Exactly 'this thread', people are so seething that both versions look pretty much the same that they are clinging on to any little thing they can to show the PS4 version is better.

I can't really take much more of this place.

oh well that's a shame.
 
This is misleading.
PS4 version appears blurry/ Xbone version appears sharp outside of DF.
For example, here;


So don't try and imply this disparity is wholly because of DF capture.
Yeah the PS4 version looks less sharp in more videos. Must be an extra AA method.
However, it has anti aliassing and looks far more natural. I prefer it a 1000 x better than the sea of jaggies.
 

slapnuts

Junior Member
I've just built a setup for less than $1200. Well waiting on mobo which should be here today. It's an i7 4770k + 280x + 128gb SSD/1tb HDD + 8gb RAM. Will report back when I see how it plays.

Well i have a very similar setup...Asus mobo, 3770k@4.6ghz, 7970 VaporX Ghz Edition@1200Mhz Core/1600 Mhz Memory/ 16gb system ram, 256gb SSD/750GB HDD, Windows 8.1 64bit.

With that said... you will get a locked 60fps on Ultra settings with mild AA & 16x AF. Reason why i know this is that after i built my rig 10 months ago...my neighbor which is a close friend of mine as we game together a lot on consoles and recently got him into PC gaming as well so he wanted me to build him a rig like mine and i played BF4 on his system last night...locked 60fps on Ultra settings on his PC that are just about identical specs to my PC gear. I will have my BF4 on my PC later today..can't wait!!

By the way ...i installed windows 8.1 on his rig last night over his previous Windows 7 and we seen a decent boost in frames per second with BF4 running on Windows 8.1 vs Windows 7...i personally wanted to test his BF4 on his rig before and after the OS upgrade. That proves to be true with recent articles released online as well! Good to see Windows 8.1 having a impact on next gen games so early.
 
Summary below for people who just joined saw the pics in op and Come to conclusion

PS4 Version =
  • Resolution is 900p
    Higher avg FPS(40-60)
    Have AO
    Appear blurry due to Improper Calibration by DF

Xbone=

  • Resolution is 720p
    Lower Avg FPS (30-60)
    Appear sharp due to Improper Caliberation by DF
    No AO (to be patched day one )

Won't added AO bring down FPS a bit more?
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
This probably shows the largest difference yet it's not in OP. C'mon Newman.
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I just realised that the clouds are actually there in the Xbone version as well. They just aren't lit properly.
 
The sharpness and contrast have been bumped up to 11 on the X1 lol

The PS4 footage looks close to the PC footage which is good. A lot of people in this thread are being fooled by a bad comparison video. It looks to me that the PS4 version is superior and keeps a better framerate at 900p than the X1 at 720p
 
Did any one attend the Xbox One Tour? I had some hands on time with BF4 and certainly wasn't blown away graphically, it was multiplayer so I sort of anticipated it wouldn't look as good as some of the other footage we've seen.

However, next to the PC and PS4 versions it really is a lot uglier.

I'd be interested in hearing some other opinions from other Gaffers that had a hands-on demo too.
 
The game looks great on consoles, I have a beast pc but I might just pick this up for ps4. I won't have to deal with kb/m players or dices way of handling joining multi or the campaign (web based access ugh).
 

Into

Member
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Waow...

**this is meant as a joke**That is not a *real* comparison at all, both versions look fine and 99% identical. I thought, maybe, we could all crack a smile and laugh at ourselves alittle. The game in question is Operation Wolf i believe, kick ass game.
 

avcables

Banned
You "image" wrong.
No fucking way would anyone get a $500 PC playing BF4 at 900p on high/ultra, at a near-constant 60fps.

You can get an FX-6300, 8GB of DDR3-1600, and a 7870 GHz (with a case and motherboard, of course) for a little more than $500. Considering the 7870 GHz is capable of ~50FPS at 1080p, on Ultra with 4x AA and full DoF in Battlefield 3, I'm more than positive you can get higher fidelty than these console with this build in Battlefield 4.

Image that.
 
I log in a few hours later and people are still saying Xbone has better textures, more color and is superior? Wow.

I've just figured out the answer to Penello's riddle about whether there would be a time when a 400hp car was better than a 700hp car? It's when the blind man tells you the 400 hp car won the race!
 

Toma

Let me show you through these halls, my friend, where treasures of indie gaming await...
But why can't people just be fair with this shit?.

We are fair, you just dont get it.

PS4 version is technically superior, period. You might "like" the look from the X1 versions, but you can sort of replicate the contrast and sharpness with your TV settings, and everyone who sees both version in motion agrees that PS4 is almost on par with PC while X1 looks way worse.

Edit: Also, I see you just found the door. Congrats.
 
Pretty damn hard to tell from some of the reactions. People have literally said the xbox one version looks like a ps2 game. A ps2 game.
True, but you also have people that are saying they're identical. The best thing to do is completely ignore the posts containing extremist hyperbole and reply to the ones who at least try to retain a semblance of objectivity.
 
Only AO was confirmed to come for launch, and this probably means more framerate issues as well.

Well Dice did say "one of the fixes"; however, that doesn't mean anything definitive. I'd say both are going to be fine for whoever buys it on whatever console. I'll take my BF4 on a PC though:p
 
This is misleading.
PS4 version appears blurry/ Xbone version appears sharp outside of DF.
For example, here;


So don't try and imply this disparity is wholly because of DF capture.

The DF capture hosed the contrast. I do not believe for one second that the artificial sharpening was performed by them. I believe the scaling on the Xbox One (which is either the built in scaling algorithm, or a custom software one DICE have implemented) is responsible for the artificial sharpness.

To some people, artificial sharpness looks good. Those people crank up the sharpness setting on their TVs and they are happy. Good for them. As many many many people have pointed out, if you crank up the sharpness setting on your TV on the PS4 version, it will still look better than the Xbox One version, if you're one of those people that prefers artificial sharpness.

I am pretty much overjoyed at this whole clusterfuck. This is really the best case scenario for 'popcorn' enjoyment. A final gasp of hope for the people still holding out hope that the Xbox One will somehow triumph when it comes to multiplatforms, all based on an overly aggressive software AA method softening the PS4 version, and a sharpness filter on the Xbox One version.

And we're completely ignoring that the PS4 version runs at a higher framerate. And we're completely ignoring that in multiplayer the PS4 version clearly looks better than the multiplayer in the Xbox One version...

and the large majority of PS4 games aren't going to need any scaling at all, at least at launch, because we're seeing most games confirmed as 1080p.

now was the time to go 'okay, PS4 is clearly more powerful'. however you feel about sharpness, the facts don't lie. you're welcome to prefer the out of the box aesthetics of the Xbox One version, even if you could achieve something better by cranking the sharpness on your TV with the PS4 version, but the ship has officially sailed in believing in parity for multiplatform games.

If you've clung on to that hope, still, based on this... genuinely I feel sorry for you.
 

Fezan

Member
You forgot AA

This is misleading.
PS4 version appears blurry/ Xbone version appears sharp outside of DF.
For example, here;


So don't try and imply this disparity is wholly because of DF capture.

The issue was saturation (black levels), but couldn't the "blurryness" simply be AA? PS4 possibly using some FXAA.

@FDC1 AA is not explicitly mentioned(less jaggies can be due to resolution)

@Blazzing No hidden agenda here. DF themselves Acknowledged the issue and most of the other comparison mentioned Ps4 version being sharper.

@ty4on FXAA can be the cause of blurriness but not to this extent. Will surely update if the reason for blurriness is mentioned
 
So are you saying that with the inclusion of AO, the X1 version will have even lower framerates?

It could or they've worked out some optimization that gave them the performance they needed to implement it. I would hope they didn't just say, fuck performance and added another expensive effect on top.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Framerate is the main priority for these games anyway. The higher resolution, added effects and better lighting are just a bonus.

Excited to play this on the quadruple.
 

Mr Moose

Member
You can get an FX-6300, 8GB of DDR3-1600, and a 7870 GHz (with a case and motherboard, of course) for a little more than $500. Considering the 7870 GHz is capable of ~50FPS at 1080p, on Ultra with 4x AA and full DoF in Battlefield 3, I'm more than positive you can get higher fidelty than these console with this build in Battlefield 4.

Image that.

PSU?
HDD? (500GB)
 

Vizzeh

Banned
Not sure DF should have released this video in its current state without proper black levels... the fps 1 maybe with an intro note...not a grqphics comparison
 

Mahnmut

Member
What? Spending three times much money gets you better graphics? You don't say.

Remember that a few months ago, (some) people were believing that the next gen consoles could match hi-end PCs...

I'am not saying that these systems are crap (probably get one for MGS5 or the new Chinese Room's game) but it is a real disappointment for me (technically speaking). I saddly remember the E3 reveal : MS was bragging on stage about BF4 running at 1080@60 on Xbone. And now you give me old gen 720p ? Man...
 

StuBurns

Banned
But why can't people just be fair with this shit?.
I'm having bad luck with conversations with the dead today.

What isn't fair exactly?

We have face-off threads for every major release, and it's always scouring over details. This is actually the biggest technical gulf in a face off since what? Bayonetta? And of course it's the first of the PS4/XBO generation, so people are going to be more pedantic than is typical.

When you come back, if you don't want to see people discuss the technical difference between versions of a game, stay out of the face-off threads, that is exactly what they exist for.
 

popeutlal

Member
Well Xbone version does look better, mainly with better textures. If we had no information on the resolutions on these games....wonder what the reaction would be just by looking at footage?
 

avcables

Banned
PSU?
HDD? (500GB)

All considered. I imagine you wouldn't get the highest quality PSU, but with the right choices you can get all of these things for $550 total. And again, if you really wanted to come right on par with the console, you could save more and go for a cheaper GPU since the one I chose is more capable.
 
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