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More Vicious Than Rape
The atrocity reports from eastern Congo were so hellish that Western medical experts refused to believe them—at first.

By Rod Nordland
Newsweek
Updated: 6:01 p.m. ET Nov 13, 2006
Nov. 13, 2006 - Warning: do not read this story if you are easily disturbed by graphic information, or are under age, or are easily upset by accounts of gruesome sexual violence.

This is about fistulas—and rape, which in Congo has become the continuation of war by other means. Fistulas are a kind of damage that is seldom seen in the developed world. Many obstetricians have encountered the condition only in their medical texts, as a rare complication associated with difficult or abnormal childbirths: a rupture of the walls that separate the vagina and bladder or rectum. Where health care is poor, particularly where trained doctors or midwives are not available, fistulas are more of a risk. They are a major health concern in many parts of Africa.

In eastern Congo, however, the problem is practically an epidemic. When a truce was declared in the war there in 2003, so many cases began showing up that Western medical experts at first called it impossible—especially when local doctors declared that most of the fistulas they were seeing were the consequence of rapes. "No one wanted to believe it at first," says Lyn Lusi, manager of the HEAL Africa hospital (formerly called the Docs Hospital) in the eastern Congo city of Goma. "When our doctors first published their results, in 2003, this was unheard of."

It had been no secret that nearly all sides in the Congo's complex civil war resorted to systematic rape among civilian populations, and estimates were as high as a quarter million victims of sexual assault during the four-year-long conflict. But once fighting died down, victims began coming out of the jungles and forests and their condition was worse than anyone had imagined. Thousands of women had been raped so brutally that they had fistulas. They wandered into hospitals soaked in their own urine and feces, rendered incontinent by their injuries. "Pastors would say to me, 'Jo, I can't preach because the church is too smelly," says Dr. Jo Lusi, a gynecologist and medical director at HEAL. (He and Lyn Lusi are husband and wife.) "No one wanted to be around them. These women were outcasts even more than rape victims usually are. They would say to me, 'Dr. Jo, am I just a thing to throw away when I smell bad?' "

The rapes—and new reports of fistula damage—have not stopped. Even now, "It is still happening, even today," says HEAL's medical director, Doctor Lusi. "Every space we have in the hospital is very, very busy with people." Most of the dozen or so militias in the country have signed on to peace terms, and their battles with each other and with the Congolese Army have mostly stopped since the arrival of United Nations peacekeepers. But many of the armed groups—even those that have made peace—continue to attack civilians, especially in rural areas. "They won't go ahead and fight each other, [but] they attack that village that supports the other group," says Lyn Lusi. "This is a horrible perpetual movement of militias. They join after their families are killed, sometimes right in front of them. They see their women raped, and then they go and do the same thing. It's a cycle of violence."Ordinary rapes, even violent ones, do not usually cause fistulas, although it's not medically impossible. Doctors in eastern Congo say they have seen cases that resulted from gang rapes where large numbers of militiamen repeatedly forced themselves on the victim. But more often the damage is caused by the deliberate introduction of objects into the victim's vagina when the rape itself is over. The objects might be sticks or pipes. Or gun barrels. In many cases the attackers shoot the victim in the vagina at point-blank range after they have finished raping her. "Often they'll do this carefully to make sure the woman does not die," says Dr. Denis Mukwege, medical director of Panzi Hospital. "The perpetrators are trying to make the damage as bad as they can, to use it as a kind of weapon of war, a kind of terrorism." Instead of just killing the woman, she goes back to her village permanently and obviously marked. "I think it's a strategy put in place by these groups to disrupt society, to make husbands flee, to terrorize."

The worst perpetrators call themselves the Federation for the Liberation of Rwanda. They were the Hutu militiamen—also known as the Interhamwe—who carried out the 1994 Rwandan genocide. That bloodbath ended when the Interhamwe were forced to retreat across Rwanda's western border into Congo, where they remain to this day, deep in the forests, armed, deadly and with nowhere else they can go. But the tactic of violent rape is used by many of the other armed factions in the area, including the Congolese Army, according to relief workers and United Nations officials. "It has been used as a weapon of war for so long it's become almost a habit," says Ross Mountain, the U.N.'s humanitarian coordinator for the Congo. "All sides are doing it, and the national army is by no means immune from that." "All the armed men rape," says Doctor Mukwege. "When we see a lesion, we can tell who the perpetrator is; there are special methods of each group, types of injuries. The Interahamwe after the rape will introduce objects; a group in Kombo sets fire to the women's buttocks afterwards, or makes them sit on the coals of a fire. There's another group that specializes in raping 11-, 12-, 13-,
14-year-old girls, one that gets them pregnant and aborts them." The youngest victim of fistula from rape his hospital has seen was 12 months old; the oldest, 71.

The fistula wards at HEAL Hospital are overflowing, with two women to a bed and patients tucked into every possible corner in the 150-bed center. Doctors there say two-thirds of their hospital's fistula cases are the result of sexual violence. Since 2003, when the hospital had to be completely rebuilt after a volcanic eruption buried the town in lava, HEAL's doctors have seen 4,800 rape victims requiring medical treatment; last year alone, surgeons there performed 242 fistula-repair operations. Panzi Hospital, in the town of Bukavu, some 70 miles southwest of Goma, is an even bigger medical center specializing in fistula surgery and treating rape
victims. Its surgeons did 540 fistula repairs last year; its two fistula wards, 25 beds each, are usually full. Doctor Mukwege estimates that 80 percent of his hospital's fistula cases are the result of sexual violence, either directly from sexual assault or from rape-induced pregnancies that were forcibly aborted in the bush; the rest were normal obstetric complications. "It's an epidemic," he says.

Panzi is running at capacity, with 250 to 300 admissions a month due to rapes, most of them new cases. Other hospitals run by aid groups in eastern Congo report similar statistics; the Medecins Sans Frontieres Bon Marche Hospital in Bunia, in war-torn Ituri province, northeastern Congo, normally admits between 10 and 20 rape victims daily—a minimum of 300 a month—again, mostly new cases, according to MSF officials there. "IRC and its partners in South and North Kivu provinces registered 40,000 cases of gender-based violence [since 2003], and we're not even counting everyone," says Brian Sage, a coordinator for the International Rescue Committee, which helps support both Panzi and HEAL hospitals. "This is just the tip of the
iceberg." Many more cases take place in the interior where aid workers still haven't reached. When Doctor Mukwege sent a mobile team under U.N. protection to the village of Nzingu, the group was prepared to treat 200 rape victims. Instead, 1,400 women came forward asking for medical help.

The only hope for these women is a difficult operation. It usually takes several hours, followed by a recovery period of two or three months. Even then, the doctors may have to try again. Sometimes the surgeons never manage to restore the patient's continence. "We've had a hundred fistula cases where there's no hope of recovery," says Doctor Mukwege. "We tried and tried but were unsuccessful. Psychologically, it's difficult to bear these cases. They come in here with great hope, it's very difficult for them but also for me, they come full of hope, it's so difficult to bear." Last April, he says, a 5-year-old girl was brought to him. Her tormentors had raped her and then fired a pistol into her vagina. She was operated on twice at Panzi Hospital without success before being sent to a hospital in the United States where surgeons tried twice more to repair the damage. They failed, too. She'll spend the rest of her life with a colostomy bag.

The doctors have a hard time coping with the anguish they see every day. "I no longer question the women about what happened," says Doctor Mukwege. "It's hard to listen, it's very hard to see them—children without vaginas, without rectums, their bladders destroyed. The questions they ask. The girls say, 'Is it not possible for me to have children?' 'Why don't I have menses?' These are questions to which you cannot answer."

But those questions are relatively easy. The really difficult question is posed again and again by fistula patients like 20-year-old Bahati: Why? When she arrives to be interviewed in an examination room off the main fistula ward at Panzi, she is carrying a basin; which she keeps at her feet as she talks. Her fistula has left her incontinent. She and the other patients interviewed here were chosen to speak by a counselor who believed they could benefit from telling their stories.

Late one evening a group of Interhamwe gunmen raided her village in South Kivu, killed 10 of the men, and abducted 10 women and girls. She says she and the other captives were kept chained except when they were unbound to be gang-raped. She became pregnant after five months, and her captors gave her a crude abortion by shoving something into her—she says she doesn't know what they used. Her doctors say the abortion probably caused the fistula. Eventually she escaped and found her way back to her home village after three days. At the Interhamwe camp, sometimes as many as 30 men would rape her, she recalls. Whenever she resisted, she was beaten. "I'll never understand why they could do that to me," she says.

Benga, 16, and Masoro, 17, ask themselves the same thing. The two friends were abducted along with their mothers from the remote South Kivu village of Nzingu. Their captors dragged them to an Interhamwe camp. "When we got there," Masoro recalls, "they said, 'This is a horrible place where girls and women suffer, and you will suffer also'." They were kept tied to trees except when they were doing domestic chores or being raped. Their mothers were raped in front of the girls. Benga bursts into tears recalling the experience. "Their purpose is simply to ruin people, to rape people," she says. "I don't know why."

No one can say why. The answer is almost too awful to consider, and impossible to understand.

News like this is why I have no faith in humanity.
 

GilloD

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bionic77 said:
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News like this is why I have no faith in humanity.

In some way, it must buoy hope. If we can be so terrible, we can be so good, as well. Recognizing something as terrible is admitting that there must be a converse to the issue, that a tragedy like this is "not normal". What we need to do is admit that man is at work here, not God, and take responsibility not only for what has happened, but what will happen.
 

Brobzoid

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yeah.. those african civil conflicts are depressing as hell. I don't think I can ever be happy about killing a skulltula in Zelda anymore... Too close to the word 'fistula'. :\
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Since 2003, when the hospital had to be completely rebuilt after a volcanic eruption buried the town in lava...
DAMN, they just can't get a break!
 

TheCardPlayer

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Reading this and then seeing people like K-Fed with all their money makes me wanna crucify something...
 
Ahh man, why did they call it a fistula, Now i have this image of Fistulas occuring when some dude shoves his hand in and rips out the walls.

These are the problems that need to be tackled man, seriously.
 
rape is one of the few things I could kill a man on the spot for, if I saw someone in the action so to speak...its ridiculous...I really feel for those girls...the guys who did it, many of them were incredibly brutilised and desensitized, but I think they need to atone for this....whatever was done to them, they did a hundred times worse to these girls....

and I think you should change the title...this what happens, people need to know...more than being depressed, which can often come across as a rather selfish emotion, I feel for the girls and the mothers etc...its just terrible

peace
 

djkimothy

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Valtox said:
so these fistulas are making vagina and anus to be a unique hole?
sorry but i don't get it.

It's basically a hole in the "wall" that separates the vagina and urethra (from what I gather from the article). But also applies to the colon/rectum. So you can see that the feces and urine can go in the wrong paths. It's very sad that this was a result of a rape.
 

bionic77

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nelsonroyale said:
rape is one of the few things I could kill a man on the spot for, if I saw someone in the action so to speak...its ridiculous...I really feel for those girls...the guys who did it, many of them were incredibly brutilised and desensitized, but I think they need to atone for this....whatever was done to them, they did a hundred times worse to these girls....

and I think you should change the title...this what happens, people need to know...more than being depressed, which can often come across as a rather selfish emotion, I feel for the girls and the mothers etc...its just terrible

peace
What should I change the title to?

I honestly wish I never read the article to begin with. Downer for the rest of the day.
 

JayDubya

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zon said:
This is where the US (and other UN countries) should be.

We have no business being in Iraq, or Darfur, or anywhere else right now (except maybe Afghanistan, scouring the region for Al-Qaeda / Taliban leadership). We're always the world's policeman, it's both thankless and expensive, and it needs to stop. China and Russia can feel free to play the hero for a grand change of pace if they want.

Anyone that opposes our continued presence in Iraq and wants our troops to leave immediately can't turn around and say "Bu bu bu bu bu.. DARFUR!" It's inane at best.

What are we going to do exactly, conquer a huge swath of the continent and handhold the entire civilization there for perpetuity? Did our intervention in Somalia teach us nothing?

* * *

The article is depressing, yes, but I don't see what throwing the West's soldiers into the mix is going to solve.
 

mr jones

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JayDubya said:
We have no business being in Iraq, or Darfur, or anywhere else right now (except maybe Afghanistan, scouring the region for Al-Qaeda / Taliban leadership). We're always the world's policeman, it's both thankless and expensive, and it needs to stop. China and Russia can feel free to play the hero for a grand change of pace if they want.

Anyone that opposes our continued presence in Iraq and wants our troops to leave immediately can't turn around and say "Bu bu bu bu bu.. DARFUR!" It's inane at best.

What are we going to do exactly, conquer a huge swath of the continent and handhold the entire civilization there for perpetuity? Did our intervention in Somalia teach us nothing?

* * *

The article is depressing, yes, but I don't see what throwing the West's soldiers into the mix is going to solve.

As much as I don't want to, I agree with this post. But for different reasons probably.

I want us out of Iraq. Period. No more dead soldiers. No more throwing money away. FIX THE SHIT THAT'S GOING ON AT HOME. Fix the deficit. Fix medical care. Fix the huge lower class / homelessness / hunger problem.

I hate what's going on in Africa. I hate it as a Black man, I hate it as a human being. Having made that disclaimer, I want where I live (the states) to get its act together, before trying to be intercontinental police department. I just find it HUGELY hypocritical to be sending out all of this aid, and soldiers, and money, and food, when we have problems here.

Plus this whole African horror makes me ask a sickening question: So what exactly would you want the UN or US to do? Send in doctors? Send in medical supplies? This is a civil war that's been going on for YEARS. You can't just "fix" this as an outsider. Millions of people are involved. Hatred on a cultural level. Unfortunately this whole thing with the brutality against women is just a symptom, from a much larger problem.
 

JayDubya

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mr jones said:
As much as I don't want to, I agree with this post. But for different reasons probably.

I want us out of Iraq. Period. No more dead soldiers. No more throwing money away. FIX THE SHIT THAT'S GOING ON AT HOME. Fix the deficit. Fix medical care. Fix the huge lower class / homelessness / hunger problem.

I hate what's going on in Africa. I hate it as a Black man, I hate it as a human being. Having made that disclaimer, I want where I live (the states) to get its act together, before trying to be intercontinental police department. I just find it HUGELY hypocritical to be sending out all of this aid, and soldiers, and money, and food, when we have problems here.

Plus this whole African horror makes me ask a sickening question: So what exactly would you want the UN or US to do? Send in doctors? Send in medical supplies? This is a civil war that's been going on for YEARS. You can't just "fix" this as an outsider. Millions of people are involved. Hatred on a cultural level. Unfortunately this whole thing with the brutality against women is just a symptom, from a much larger problem.

Well, I know our perspectives are vastly different. I want the lives spared because every dead volunteer soldier is another soldier that can't defend us in a neccessary or just war should the proverbial shit hit the fan. I want the money saved so we can fix the deficit. I don't want us rushing off to war trying to fix the world. So in some ways we agree.

It's not like I'm some evil racist prick that wants black people to die. I just don't see how given the negative retaliatory response sending troops seems to bring, that putting our people on the ground would actually help anything. I mean, we could defend a few villages, we could try, we could do our best, but at the end of the day, I don't see how you could fix anything without doing something as abominable as what I said: effectively colonize and supplant an entire culture and rule it with an iron fist. I can't see that as an upgrade to the situation now.

I used to think we should intervene in these humanitarian crises, but I just can't agree with that sentiment anymore. Our military is not very good at being policemen - no military really is. And I have a funny feeling China or Russia won't lift a finger to help even if we do decide to go in. They're more than happy having us behave in such a manner, racking up our debt to go gallavanting around playing savior.
 

GilloD

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mr jones said:
As much as I don't want to, I agree with this post. But for different reasons probably.

I want us out of Iraq. Period. No more dead soldiers. No more throwing money away. FIX THE SHIT THAT'S GOING ON AT HOME. Fix the deficit. Fix medical care. Fix the huge lower class / homelessness / hunger problem.

I hate what's going on in Africa. I hate it as a Black man, I hate it as a human being. Having made that disclaimer, I want where I live (the states) to get its act together, before trying to be intercontinental police department. I just find it HUGELY hypocritical to be sending out all of this aid, and soldiers, and money, and food, when we have problems here.

Plus this whole African horror makes me ask a sickening question: So what exactly would you want the UN or US to do? Send in doctors? Send in medical supplies? This is a civil war that's been going on for YEARS. You can't just "fix" this as an outsider. Millions of people are involved. Hatred on a cultural level. Unfortunately this whole thing with the brutality against women is just a symptom, from a much larger problem.

One of the biggest problems in the region is not that we DON'T have a presence, because we do. The problem is that much of it is spent on political/military attaches that do little more than maintain status quo. That money and influence could be much more wisely spent.

Additionally, to implicate that States don't have their act together in the face of this is staggering.
 
I'm reading a book right now called Shake Hands With the Devil, which is the account of the Rawandan genocide from the perspective of the Canadian General who was in charge of the UN contingent at the time.

Those Hutu Interhamwe guys are pure ****ing evil. They make the Taliban look like choir boys.
 

Barnolde

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The Interahamwe after the rape will introduce objects; a group in Kombo sets fire to the women's buttocks afterwards, or makes them sit on the coals of a fire. There's another group that specializes in raping 11-, 12-, 13-, 14-year-old girls, one that gets them pregnant and aborts them." The youngest victim of fistula from rape his hospital has seen was 12 months old; the oldest, 71.

They come in here with great hope, it's very difficult for them but also for me, they come full of hope, it's so difficult to bear." Last April, he says, a 5-year-old girl was brought to him. Her tormentors had raped her and then fired a pistol into her vagina. She was operated on twice at Panzi Hospital without success before being sent to a hospital in the United States where surgeons tried twice more to repair the damage. They failed, too. She'll spend the rest of her life with a colostomy bag.

WHAT THE ****!?
 

bionic77

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Barnolde said:
The Interahamwe after the rape will introduce objects; a group in Kombo sets fire to the women's buttocks afterwards, or makes them sit on the coals of a fire. There's another group that specializes in raping 11-, 12-, 13-, 14-year-old girls, one that gets them pregnant and aborts them." The youngest victim of fistula from rape his hospital has seen was 12 months old; the oldest, 71.

They come in here with great hope, it's very difficult for them but also for me, they come full of hope, it's so difficult to bear." Last April, he says, a 5-year-old girl was brought to him. Her tormentors had raped her and then fired a pistol into her vagina. She was operated on twice at Panzi Hospital without success before being sent to a hospital in the United States where surgeons tried twice more to repair the damage. They failed, too. She'll spend the rest of her life with a colostomy bag.

WHAT THE ****!?
I explained it in the thread title!
 

miyuru

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There's some really sick parts of the world out there. I don't think things will ever get better, only worse with all these warring factions.
 
bionic77 said:
What should I change the title to?

I honestly wish I never read the article to begin with. Downer for the rest of the day.


just thinking of your onw feelings and the effect the article had on you...people need to know whats going on in the world...this stuff doesnt make me immediately depressed, I know this shit happens...but it makes me empathise with the feelings of the victims and disgust and anger at the people and system which created the conditions...see an outflow of emotion, rather than an inflow

peace
 

bionic77

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nelsonroyale said:
just thinking of your onw feelings and the effect the article had on you...people need to know whats going on in the world...this stuff doesnt make me immediately depressed, I know this shit happens...but it makes me empathise with the feelings of the victims and disgust and anger at the people and system which created the conditions...see an outflow of emotion, rather than an inflow

peace
But what should I change the title to? Fistula's in Africa? I never knew what the **** a Fistula was until I read that article.
 
well you could put 'more vicious than rape'...that would sure get attention here...or 'rape is only the beginning for Congo women'...they sound pretty heartless though...but at least they are descriptive...or maybe 'Mass Fistula, The devastating after effects of rape in the Congo'

peace
 

bionic77

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nelsonroyale said:
well you could put 'more vicious than rape'...that would sure get attention here...or 'rape is only the beginning for Congo women'...they sound pretty heartless though...but at least they are descriptive...or maybe 'Mass Fistula, The devastating after effects of rape in the Congo'

peace
Stupid question, but can I change a thread title or is that left to mods?
 
Things like this are terrible. Unfortunately it's very, very difficult to stop these sorts of things. As far as the UN goes, I believe someone earlier on said they haven't done shit in Darfur. I think a more appropriate phrase is "the UN doesn't do shit".

A sad read, and an eye opener.
 
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