Saiyan-Rox
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Need to find this info out somehow....if it is just codes in the box then I'll order the collectors edition and sell the expansion 1&2 codes
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Bungie defends Destiny: The Taken King's £/$40 price tag (Eurogamer)
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Need to find this info out somehow....if it is just codes in the box then I'll order the collectors edition and sell the expansion 1&2 codes
When they first showed off the game and boasted about "If you can see it, you can walk there!", it was sad to see what became of it.
Shit, they even took out the Loot Cave stuff which was actually giving players a reason to keep playing to take their minds off the mindless grinding drudge they had to do to get jerked off by the Cryptark.
Now if you took all of the content that has come out since launch and bundled it all together, then $60 would be pretty good.
Sola Scriptura
Member
PR like that won't last long. His Activision handlers will be all over him for it, if they haven't already been.
Wolfe
Member
I feel the same way pretty much. I played and enjoyed the hell out of the Beta but then didn't want to get the game on PS3 as I don't have an Xbone or PS4 yet and shit like this isn't exactly very enticing for me even if I would be getting the best "deal" out of everyone buying the content.
Give me a fucking break.
Taken King is $40 lol
Mike Works
Member
Nope. It was a juvenile reaction to common sense, and his post was propped up as a beacon shining on Bungie's ill-hearted practices. Unfortunately, it was more of a highlight of his brother's stupidity, or at best, naivety. Hence why I asked if the poor guy knew the truth about Santa yet.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Yeah that's the downside...ordering from those twats
When they first showed off the game and boasted about "If you can see it, you can walk there!", it was sad to see what became of it.
Shit, they even took out the Loot Cave stuff which was actually giving players a reason to keep playing to take their minds off the mindless grinding drudge they had to do to get jerked off by the Cryptark.
Now if you took all of the content that has come out since launch and bundled it all together, then $60 would be pretty good.
Even with all of the DLC up until now I still think they number of actual zones was pretty paltry.
Glitchesarecool
Member
Damage is done though. The PR handlers should have stopped the interview. Handlers going forward aren't going to help.
EL CUCO
Member
Looks like Luke went from hero to zero in the matter of one interview for some people.
I dont have an issue with how he handled it. It's a tough spot to be in and he's restricted on what he can or cant say. Most of it even being out of his control. In every other interview I've heard, he's come off as genuine and likeable. I appreciate the extra nuggets we get from hearing him talk, even if it's a bit vague at times. It's a breath of fresh air in comparison to the PR machine we're used to getting from Bungie.
I dont have an issue with how he handled it. It's a tough spot to be in and he's restricted on what he can or cant say. Most of it even being out of his control. In every other interview I've heard, he's come off as genuine and likeable. I appreciate the extra nuggets we get from hearing him talk, even if it's a bit vague at times. It's a breath of fresh air in comparison to the PR machine we're used to getting from Bungie.
secretanchitman
Member
Yes. $40 for everyone no matter what as far as I know.
He isn't really. Luke is just trying to keep his paycheck. He is just delivering the news and notice he is not arguing with the interviewers comments. Actually a good guy in a bad spot. He loved Halo and Bungie back in the day. Thats why he left 1up to go work for them.
But.
I have never seen a company say 'f-you' quite so clearly. They truly think Destiny players are idiots. It is mind blowing. Absolutely mind blowing. Its a whole new level and so many players who loved Bungie have tried so hard to make this mess work. This is the bone they throw you folks.
You see, Bungie is an American-based developer and Activision is an American-based publisher so it costs more to send their internets over to the EU.
The worst part about this interview is when Luke tries to grill the interviewer by gauging how much they'd be willing to spend on the new emotes. It comes off as "If you really want them, you'd pay for them, no matter the cost."
Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, in the £80 version you get all this:
If we assume you're paying £40 for the expansion, then the other £40 is for all this other stuff. I think it's perhaps a little disingenuous to say they're making you shell out for the game again, as opposed to saying the game is included on the off-chance someone new to Destiny wants to jump in now and likes Limited Edition tat.
Think about it, if they'd decided to charge £80 for this without the base game and first two expansions, would it seem like that scummy a pack? (for the sake of argument let's say you're ok with paying £40 for the TTK)
If we assume you're paying £40 for the expansion, then the other £40 is for all this other stuff. I think it's perhaps a little disingenuous to say they're making you shell out for the game again, as opposed to saying the game is included on the off-chance someone new to Destiny wants to jump in now and likes Limited Edition tat.
Think about it, if they'd decided to charge £80 for this without the base game and first two expansions, would it seem like that scummy a pack? (for the sake of argument let's say you're ok with paying £40 for the TTK)
Pretty sure they can't deposit 'respect' in their bank accounts. But I guess, that's what the money is for.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Yeah but Destiny has a very small amount of content as it is. An 'expansion' in destiny terms should not be a expensive as a expansion for a game with a lot more content.
PanicFreak
Member
I don't understand how Bungie can continue to stumble from PR snafu to PR snafu regarding this game. Frankly, it's pretty amazing.
DanielJr82
Member
I'm not buying it. Would rather spend that money on Fallout 4.
Wow I don't care about the price, I'll get my money worth out of the new raid, strikes, campaign, and subclasses. That complete denial on the exclusive content though. I thought for sure they would reverse their decision on that. They really expect people to rebuy content, unreal.
Flintty
Member
I don't disagree, of course they are in it for the money. But for me, pride in my work and my reputation carry a lot of weight. Bungie used to be like that.
wipeout364
Member
For me the problem is he always answers this way. Matchmaking exclusion from strikes and raids was also kind of explained this way; too bad screw you guys you're lucky to get anything.
Also as someone who generally buys DLC fairly frequently I felt the expansion passes were not great value so if they want to sell me now on more DLC they need to really show me vAlue cause I felt ripped off by the first two.
Also this guy has terrible PR skills and needs to be more for the fans. The entitled role works for pod casting not so much for somebody trying to sell things.
Also as someone who generally buys DLC fairly frequently I felt the expansion passes were not great value so if they want to sell me now on more DLC they need to really show me vAlue cause I felt ripped off by the first two.
Also this guy has terrible PR skills and needs to be more for the fans. The entitled role works for pod casting not so much for somebody trying to sell things.
Krappadizzle
Member
It's impressive for sure. Just when I thought that they couldn't sink any lower. They go a do something like this.
This same mindset can be applied to anything. It doesn't make you cool to say it here.
Wolfe
Member
squidhands
Member
Are these "people" the same ones who don't know the full content of Taken King?
Bungie thought the value of ODST was less than marketed, this time they think differently. This is surprising?
The truth can sting.
That sort of carrot on a stick gameplay loop is common in mmo-like game design. It shoulda been obvious this is the road destiny would go down. Raging now after two expansions is silly.
How the flying fuck would anyone know what TTK is worth except for Bungie?
Granted when it comes out if the content isn't worth it (asset wise) they deserve to get shit on.
KillerSloth
Banned
Stalker rules man, such an underapreciated gem
Does Luke still have an active GAF account? I wonder if he'll come in and clarify his statements.
Surprised to see so many here not giving him the benefit of the doubt. What do people expect him to say? He's proud of what they've made and probably has his hands tied anyways. People can't expect him to come out against his employerer just because he would have ripped this while at 1UP.
Surprised to see so many here not giving him the benefit of the doubt. What do people expect him to say? He's proud of what they've made and probably has his hands tied anyways. People can't expect him to come out against his employerer just because he would have ripped this while at 1UP.
DeeJ just posted this on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe...ie_defending_the_taken_king_price_tag/csfapff
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe...ie_defending_the_taken_king_price_tag/csfapff
Benefit of the doubt has worn out for some time, man. People sat through the release of the game and two expansions and were left dissapointed. TTK so far seems like more of the same. They've yet to really make the game feel like a significant improvement. Just more content at what people are finding isn't enough for the price so far.
Is that last line seriously hinting at "Sorry, we can't please everybody. And by everybody, I mean you."
Believe it or not, but there is actually a fairly large group of people that have played Destiny, did not like it or were very disappointed by it, and are just vocal about it because they had high hopes for what it could be. It's very insular to just claim the negative responses as blind knee jerking.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, in the £80 version you get all this:
If we assume you're paying £40 for the expansion, then the other £40 is for all this other stuff. I think it's perhaps a little disingenuous to say they're making you shell out for the game again, as opposed to saying the game is included on the off-chance someone new to Destiny wants to jump in now and likes Limited Edition tat.
Think about it, if they'd decided to charge £80 for this without the base game and first two expansions, would it seem like that scummy a pack? (for the sake of argument let's say you're ok with paying £40 for the TTK)
It says for the "Ultimate Destiny Fan"... so they reward the "ultimate fan" with the same shit said fan already bought? With a few added physical trinkets and the expansion?
Seems a tad disingenuous on their part. It is clearly for newcomers trying to spark a second breath come this holiday season that has a lot of heavy hitters in the FPS department.
This reminds me, I have yet to play the two new expansions even though they are downloaded, nor seen any changes. I have to hop back in soon.
I really, REALLY do not see how it's impossible to please everyone as Deej seems to suggest in that post. It is incredibly easy to please everyone, they just seem to refuse to want to do so for really dumb reasons.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
When is the weekly update?
squidhands
Member
Deleting a game and characters is a pretty childish response to this news, good lord.
I think all you've done is remind people how content rich proper MMOs are and how much they add in every expansion.
I don't understand why everyone's so upset about the emotes. Let those who want to spend that money on it do so, it's not the end of the world. The fact that exotic class items and emotes exist as bonuses with the package confirms that there'll be many more of them in the actual expansion. Besides, it's not like Luke or Bungie likely had a major part in this decision. It's more mindless Destiny hate.
Absolutely, I am just highlighting where I feel their priorities lie. If video games can be art. Destiny is surely not it.
$40 for an expansion pack tells you all you need to know.