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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On
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Just like those Ron Paul events. Looks just like a Republican Convention.
Look at all those people who aren't going to vote on election day because Bernie won't get the Dem nomination and Rand Paul won't be the Republican nominee.
ErasureAcer
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Bunch of gatekeepers in this thread. Dudes think they are so smart they should start a thinktank. Hivemind with Hillary as their queen bee.
I just need to see his appeal outside of Madison, Ann Arbor, Denver, and Burlington before I get excited about the prospect of him being president.
If he starts polling well and beating key Republicans in polls, then I'll be excited. Otherwise, I'm on the Hill Train.
No, it's just that a lot of people here read polls and are sort of disillusioned as to those that don't see the chasm between Bernie and Hillary, as well as Bernie versus other Republicans.
It's about being able to read polls.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Bernie myself and if I thought he had a chance at beating Hillary and the Republicans I would be ecstatic. But for now I just can't see it.
curlyfriski
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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| We may not be excited for the candidate, but we are excited for the poll numbers
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thepotatoman
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lol, I'll sign on to that one.
Retromelon
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Thats pretty good. I was thinking about some variant on: almost out of change
Damn, that's spot-on. I like!
I am a proud gatekeeper of Hillary. She is my queen bee and she can be yours too my friend once she takes over Bernie's or he surrenders his kingdom to her.
PoliGAF 2015 |OT| #Love, Salt, Polls, Trolls
Retromelon
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You're gonna be bummed when bobby jindal takes office in an electoral landslide amid The Great Economic Collapse of 2016
I thought Bobby Jindal was losing to "not sure/ undecided".
Retromelon
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The polls don't stop sanders supporters do they
eBay Huckster
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reality doesn't stop the more blind among them, as erasureacer is showing.
i care about left-leaning policy. i also care about being pragmatic enough that the left-leaning policy actually gets enacted in as close to its original form as possible, which generally entails running to nominate the candidate with 12-point national leads instead of the candidate tied in D+5 states with no money in a system that's currently money-based
Eh. I don't think we're "excited" so much as we are merely expecting them but knowing in the back of our minds they're essentially meaningless, especially as the GOP clown car isn't even off the highway ramp yet.
I dread the Presidential poll-a-thon at this phase. It's too early, yet we all feel compelled to comment. I hate it.
I'm a gatekeeper of probability. And she's currently our best shot, by a pretty significant margin.
If strong data comes out by the end of the year showing that another (*Ginsburg-nominating) candidate is our best chance at 270, I'd jump ship in a heartbeat.
This is by no means a personality thing for me. The person does not matter; they are a vessel - a means to an end. If a sentient ham sandwich person qualified for the ballot and polling consistently showed a Reagan-style 1984 blowout incoming with its nomination, I'd be signing-up for Ham Sandwich email updates and I'd start following @HamSamdwich2016 on Twitter.
So don't take this personally, BernieFolk or O'MalleyFolk or BidenFolk. This is a game of numbers.
How about..
PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Argle-Bargle, Bitches!
Haha, that's a bit creative.
I think Pure Applesauce is great because it's a direct jab at Scalia and it's just funny to read. We are indeed part of the "Pure Applesauce" that, for the most part, supported the argument the SCOTUS upheld (excluding Meta and I guess benji).
But yeah, if that's how our argument is to be labeled by the opposition -- wear it with pride.
I'm happy with a Scalia jab either way, hehe..
Yeah. Plus he has basically diminished himself to Internet forum troll/humor status if his latest dissents are to be taken into account, so the thread title would be all the more apt.
NYCmetsfan
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What does Bernie support that hillary doesn't? What are the substantive police differences, especially 2015 on that distinguish the two?
Retromelon
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He has stood on his principles all his life.
Meanwhile wasnt hillary a goldwater girl in 64
eBay Huckster
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hillary's a secret republican because she volunteered for goldwater 50 years ago
just like how reagan was actually a democrat
(you won't actually find them from the bernistas)
NYCmetsfan
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That doesn't answer the question (unless my sarcasm detector is broken)
edit: it probably is. I've had a long day...
Poodlestrike
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Last I heard, he was losing to the margin of error by something like 4 percent.
We don't actually know if anybody is planning on voting for him at all.
Retromelon
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I was just havin a giggle m8
Leeroy3101
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Bernie separates himself from the washington machine, lacks any ties to wall street, does things before the handlers tell him to do it, and isn't involved in the oligarchy of this nation.
TheLaughingStock
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Just goes to show how no one is really pure. Some of the "socialists" are falling victim to market failure and the Fox News Americans are probably the ones who ensured that the interest rate paid on national debt is set by the US government. Nixon was a basket case and sold Americans on the EPA and fiat money.
ErasureAcer
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PoliGAF(2015) : Da Rude Hillary(because she makes no public appearances) - Sandstorm
Poodlestrike
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Slight modification:
PoliGAF 2015 |OT| We're bring drugs. We're bringing crime. We're Hillary supporters. And some of us, I assume, are good people.
Probably too many characters.
This helps a little:
PoliGAF 2015 |OT| We're bringing drugs. We're bringing crime. We're Democrats. And some of us, I assume, are good people.
Retromelon
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Not all of us are democrats tho
Poodlestrike
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Oooh, better.
Those people get to revel in the substitution of Democrats for rape.
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thepotatoman
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TPP, parental leave, and breaking up the too big to fail banks are pretty distinct differences come to mind.
Actually, I would only vote for Bernie knowing he has no chance to secure the nomination. Much as I like him and would like to see him get enough support to actually influence the Dems' positioning, I'd be too concerned about his chances in the general to consider voting for him if he actually had a chance to beat Hillary.
Besides, I actually think Hillary would probably get slightly more done (a marginal difference, as both look to be equally gridlocked. But in that situation, a shrewd, cagey and experienced pol might even be preferable to a tell-it-like-it-is idealist).
Point is moot anyway, as I'm not American. I do think PoliGaf in general should be more like "Wow, Bernie is actually running, generating interest and Hillary has actually already agreed with a couple of his policy positions, which would have been considered fringe-left as little as eight years ago!", and less like "Some dupes actually think he has a chance? Lol, read some polls pls".
Honestly, we all started off saying the first one. I'm glad he's there to push her to the left, but at some point it gets tiring to have to explain how he knows he has no chance to beat Hillary and is just trying to shift the national conversation, and Hillary, more to the left. Also it doesn't help that a lot of his more ardent supporters are acting like Ron Paul's, which got really old, really fast and no one wants to deal with that again.
ErasureAcer
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Don't deal with it then. Give up. I'm just a nobody on the internet. You have just about everything better to be doing in the world. Do those things.
We are just "telling it like it is" though. We want the Bernie supporters to come in this race with enthusiasm but also with realistic expectations. The polls can not be ignored atleast from a primary race perspective.
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