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Videogamer issues apology over Uncharted 4 review
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As I suspected it doesn't seem like there was huge controversy around this review. They are trying to create one just to justify that article
My favorite type of controversy is the manufactured kind.
Again? I've seen this linked a dozen times in the last few days, when you guys are going to let it go? You're close to cross the line between funny and annoying, especially since I've seen no outrage.
WhiskerFrisker
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Eraser_Arcade
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RevolverRoden
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:^)
Sniffynose
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So basically we are all clapping hands because attention whores like to be attention whores lol.
This is why most reviews turned bullshit once they were tied to clicks and ad revenue.
I have been burned so many times by online reviews, so now I either go by my own opinion or get some good feedback from gaffers.
This is why most reviews turned bullshit once they were tied to clicks and ad revenue.
I have been burned so many times by online reviews, so now I either go by my own opinion or get some good feedback from gaffers.
Liking anything is so subjective. I recognize that the Uncharted games are well made but I just didn't have as much fun playing them as I did a Fallout game. Others would call Fallout games trash.
You have to look at a lot of reviews and make a judgement call on whether you might like it too but even when there is a consensus you still might not like it. I think about Diablo 3 getting unanimously positive reviews out of the gate but it ultimately ended up having it's game director reassigned and the game overhauled because of how bad it actually was(It's a great game now btw.)
I think that some reviewers restrain from being completely honest because they will be accused of being clickbait but sometimes they are just clickbait. That said we need reviews because games are expensive and we need an idea of what a game is. I think Twitch streams are a great way to see if you might like a game but they can spoil things for you.
You have to look at a lot of reviews and make a judgement call on whether you might like it too but even when there is a consensus you still might not like it. I think about Diablo 3 getting unanimously positive reviews out of the gate but it ultimately ended up having it's game director reassigned and the game overhauled because of how bad it actually was(It's a great game now btw.)
I think that some reviewers restrain from being completely honest because they will be accused of being clickbait but sometimes they are just clickbait. That said we need reviews because games are expensive and we need an idea of what a game is. I think Twitch streams are a great way to see if you might like a game but they can spoil things for you.
Honestly, after MGSV I feel the same.
That game was universally loved at release, and within three months that changed completely. I'm going to wait a few months and see if the reception hasn't soured.
amstradcpc
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The click hunt,ok...
Messofanego
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11,000 comments (oh wait it's 15,428 now) over IGN's Uncharted 4 8.8 review, and many of them were misogynistic, hateful, abusive, etc because a woman (Lucy O'Brien) reviewed it. Not to mention the comments stating that she reviewed Rise of the Tomb Raider better because Lara Croft is female. Reminiscent of Carolyn Petit's GTA V 9/10 Gamespot review (there was a petition on change.org to fire her). Most of the misogynistic comments were deleted by the mods.
At least no one has sent death/rape threats to Lucy O'Brien, or at least ones I can see publicly...
Spyder_Monkey
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That's not to say Videogamer is in the wrong here but the whole thing comes across as condescending considering that the people lashing out against Eurogamer probably don't care anyway.
IGN is a different scenario. Lower than perfect score plus a woman reviewing it equals not just a shitstorm but a shit hurricane. That kind of thing is wrong and it needs to stop.
IGN is a different scenario. Lower than perfect score plus a woman reviewing it equals not just a shitstorm but a shit hurricane. That kind of thing is wrong and it needs to stop.
flintstryker
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A big part of the problem is the ridiculous need to play a game at launch, with the amount of games currently in existence waiting a few months shouldn't kill anyone..and you also stands to get it cheaper too.
MysteryQuesadilla
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Yeah those comments directed at Lucy at IGN are gross.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Good, reviewers are supposed to be objective, there is no reason to inject their opinions, they are supposed to be writing these reviews for the everyman, not just themselves. People who think this game deserves anything less than a 9.0 are clearly being bought out by Xbox marketing executives to push sales of Tomb Raider, which is just gonna come to Ps4 eventually. They are wasting time with this propaganda.
Seeing that happening in the thread was the weirdest thing to watch. You have pages upon pages of people discussing the game and then,one short lpost throwing snark at a review would pop up. This is followed by a group of posters quoting said post and going, "LOL. This thread delivered."
Were there really people just sitting there, scouring through bulks of posts, page after page, just waiting for these few drive by posters? @-@
Already Torn
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I think you should take your own advice.
Good on them for apologizing for that review. They should have known never to cross the fanboys who will destroy you if you touch their sacred cow even with legitimate complaints and nitpicks
I feel like the manufactured controversy of the fanboys will do more harm to the game's reputation than what the reviewers have said so far.
I feel like the manufactured controversy of the fanboys will do more harm to the game's reputation than what the reviewers have said so far.
The lame humor and sarcasm is pretty tired now. You're post is late by a couple of hours.
Already Torn
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Can't tell if serious...
Lys Skygge
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I sometimes hate the internet. Twitter, YouTube, and 99% of comment sections are dumpster fires.11,000 comments (oh wait it's 15,428 now) over IGN's Uncharted 4 8.8 review, and many of them were misogynistic, hateful, abusive, etc because a woman (Lucy O'Brien) reviewed it. Not to mention the comments stating that she reviewed Rise of the Tomb Raider better because Lara Croft is female. Reminiscent of Carolyn Petit's GTA V 9/10 Gamespot review (there was a petition on change.org to fire her). Most of the misogynistic comments were deleted by the mods.
At least no one has sent death/rape threats to Lucy O'Brien, or at least ones I can see publicly...
Seeing some posters on that and recognising their names and realising that they're still posting shit today... People never learn.
Also can't help but laugh at the guy who said that Eurogamer rated it 8 because Uncharted 3 was competing with a UK developed game and therefore had bias.
Disaster Nebraska
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This was a waste of a click.
First of all, don't insult your readers. Or, if "those aren't the kind of readers we want" like Stephen Totilo said years ago, then don't say anything at all. Writing an article to mock people who disliked your review is a waste of everyone's time and it's unprofessional. It also adds fuel to the fire.
Second of all, if you're so confident in your review score, you shouldn't need to answer your detractors through a sarcastic "apology letter".
Third, if you wanted more clicks, you should've written a better review. Drumming up fake controversy is idiotic.
First of all, don't insult your readers. Or, if "those aren't the kind of readers we want" like Stephen Totilo said years ago, then don't say anything at all. Writing an article to mock people who disliked your review is a waste of everyone's time and it's unprofessional. It also adds fuel to the fire.
Second of all, if you're so confident in your review score, you shouldn't need to answer your detractors through a sarcastic "apology letter".
Third, if you wanted more clicks, you should've written a better review. Drumming up fake controversy is idiotic.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
And rob us of all the fun? No way!
Already Torn
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I think you misread the article. They know they should have written a better review, that's why they issued this apology. The original review was unprofessional and a waste of everyone's time (an 8/10!), that's why they're addressing it here.
And it's something they had to do. Who knows how many precious clicks were wasted on the original, wrong review. What a senseless loss of clicks. The least they can do is apologize, and I'm glad they had the sense to do so.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm not sure what is worse here:
1) The people angry about a review
2) The people in this thread that are angry about a humorous response to the people angry about the review.
I mean, it's journalism. Why do people get so angry about a review score? Does it really affect your enjoyment of the game?
1) The people angry about a review
2) The people in this thread that are angry about a humorous response to the people angry about the review.
I mean, it's journalism. Why do people get so angry about a review score? Does it really affect your enjoyment of the game?
why?
If they were being dragged across hot coals and the entire internet was jabbing their balls with pitchforks I'd agree. But some people disagreeing or criticising should usually be ignored.
But this is videogamer. They enjoy riling people and enjoy even more knocking out a sarcastic as fuck response, even when the originating cause is minor at best. I like reading their caustic nonsense so I don't mind it, but most places would correctly just let it slide.
deranged_666
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I understand their "apology" response and agree with the premise behind it, but that was a bit unnecessary and childish, IMO
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Well said.
Spyder_Monkey
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Why does anyone care if people are angry?
How the hell am I seeing this gif / scene for the first time?
Already Torn
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I think it's all pretty tongue in cheek. It's a silly response, but anyone who said that they gave the game a bad score is being far more silly.
Because angry people on the internet tend to overreact, which leads to harassment. I think it's correct to view anger as a childish and unfavorable emotion in most cases. I can't remember the last time I respected someone for being furious, even for a good reason.
Pancake Mix
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Hang on a second, do people not understand that Rise of the Tomb Raider is somewhat close in Metacritic score to UC4 with loads of reviews between them thus far?
ROTTR: 86
UC4: 94
Of course some prominent outlets would give ROTTR a better score, the Tomb Raider reboot games have been amazing.
Also, if you don't like a score, why are you giving that article or youtube video a click just so you can dislike it? You're doing them a favour in the process, even if you give the thumbs down...
ROTTR: 86
UC4: 94
Of course some prominent outlets would give ROTTR a better score, the Tomb Raider reboot games have been amazing.
Also, if you don't like a score, why are you giving that article or youtube video a click just so you can dislike it? You're doing them a favour in the process, even if you give the thumbs down...
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So people were upset at an 8? That's a must play on my scale :/
Already Torn
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I see one trash game and one GOTY weighed down by a few attention grabbing click bait reviews. An 86 is a B for crying out loud. You won't get into med school with grades like that.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Did you read those responses to the writer of the IGN review? Give people anonymity online and anger becomes harassment. It happens all the time.
Pancake Mix
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I don't doubt that some of them are, remembering "-too much water" to go with a 7.8 out of 10 in the Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby review from a certain major outlet. Regardless, people shouldn't be clicking on those reviews as that does them a favour even if you give the video or article a dislike. Don't click on clickbait, and don't write stupid sexist comments on the review either.
Also, calling ROTTR a trash game is downright laughable, it's better than UC1 and 3 easily.
Visit some other forums bud. NeoGAF is mild compared to everything else.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Uncharted 4 is one of the most anticipated games in a long time, it's from one of the most highly praised studios with a huge fan base. Perfect time for sites to get clicks.
Already Torn
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Actually, now would be a good time for IGN to write an apology for that Pokemon review now that Videogamer has taken their own stand against click bait.
And ROTTR is objectively trash, look at that metacritic score.
mocolostrocolos
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Perfect.
Spyder_Monkey
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That is a way different situation and absolutely wrong. The VideoGamer thing... no one really cares outside of some shitty Youtube comments.
Already Torn
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I'm actually kind of annoyed that any gaming sites are publishing reviews for Uncharted 4. It's a blatant and disgraceful attempt to get clicks off of people excited for Uncharted 4.
Wait to post the review until the excitement has gone down, thank you. I'll keep my clicks to myself for now.
Pancake Mix
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Ohhh, you're trolling, I see. That or pretty much every Pokemon game is trash.
No, it's not different and I'm done replying to you since you've clearly made up your mind.
It's like talking to a child that always thinks they're right in their irrational beliefs. To call all contradictory reviews for games you care about only "clickbait" is also absurd. I'm sure clickbait reviews happen, but come on....