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CSGOShuffle likely owned by popular streamer phantoml0rd, manipulated odds on stream
- Thread starter NIN90
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Dude I sincerely hope 5 grand is pocket change for ya because if else you have big problems. That's why I'm so glad I found Saltybet :lol, it taught me so much about my gambling behaviours and taught me to never bet with actual cash. Granted it's all fake money but the thrill of betting big and winning big is still there.
Green Yoshi
Member
You often read about the strict laws in the USA. So will they go to prison for that?
In the case of illegal payday loans, authorities typically aim to return principal and interest to the borrowers. It is the firm's fault for offering a service that they cannot legally provide.
Any winnings from those sites may be forfeit though...
The Jackdog
Member
its tough to feel bad for anyone who spent money on these sites TBH.
Like when someone comes to you selling cutco knives or some mary kay nonsense
Like when someone comes to you selling cutco knives or some mary kay nonsense
UserDoesNotExist
Member
The argument that these people deserve to go down because they target children is airtight. I have no quibble with that outrage, and I do hope they see the inside of a jail cell for this.
I have a lot harder of a time seeing why I should be morally outraged that these guys manipulate odds or are "unregulated." Gambling is, by definition, a scam. Dressing it up with regulations to make it respectable doesn't suddenly change that it is a scam; it merely changes it to a state-sponsored scam that brings in lucrative tax dollars. (For example, gaming taxes are roughly a quarter of Nevada's total tax revenue, exceeded only by sales tax.) These scumbags aren't guilty for scamming people. All casinos scam people. They're guilty of scamming people and not giving the government its taste.
I have a lot harder of a time seeing why I should be morally outraged that these guys manipulate odds or are "unregulated." Gambling is, by definition, a scam. Dressing it up with regulations to make it respectable doesn't suddenly change that it is a scam; it merely changes it to a state-sponsored scam that brings in lucrative tax dollars. (For example, gaming taxes are roughly a quarter of Nevada's total tax revenue, exceeded only by sales tax.) These scumbags aren't guilty for scamming people. All casinos scam people. They're guilty of scamming people and not giving the government its taste.
adversarial
Member
I wish any of this was surprising. Corruption at every level of everything.
There are plenty of reasons for why regulating gambling is a good thing, and it's sad you don't see a difference. I'll mention only one important one in the context of all this though: Age limit verification and the strict follow-ups and incentives on self policing it.
Gambling is gambling and all adults know the odds, and with regulations there are mechanisms in place to prevent fixing and illegal advertising (faking winnings to create a false illusion that is easy to win back your money) (at least in my country). There are even mechanisms in place to prevent addicts from olaying (my country at least).
It's even worse when unregulated gambling sites diguise themselves as an innocent game for kids.
Frozenprince
Banned
Wish I had that kind of money to piss away on nothing.
I know right?
Legit stunned that someone would spend five grand on a fake color scheme for a fake gun in a fucking video game.
Couldn't even do it on something like the Preakness?
Stone Ocean
Member
Et tu, phantoml0rd?
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
It's not pocket change for me. But I don't like to view Counter-Strike skins or the value of my inventory as real money. Especially since most of what I gambled I won via betting on Pro Matches. Only about $100 has actually been invested by me for skins I bought to gamble with.
I think right now my Inventory is worth almost $3k?
I don't ever like to think about how I could cash out or trade it out. I just buy what I like and it makes me happy to play with them in game. So I don't mind spending money on it, and don't really like to think about the financial aspect of it.
$5k would be about 25% of my annual income as a 19 year old. Lel.
newtypepilot
Member
WOW even fake subs. Reeks of desperation....
This isn't suspicious or anything https://youtu.be/vslMOporFy8?t=46s
The 18th Letter
Banned
looks like you were wrong
SuicidalSteve
Member
justice
Ryo Hazuki
Member
I'm assuming it was the subscriber bots that broke the terms of service as mentioned in the video above.
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
Before skins game had like what 10k players? source was leading till skins.
The 18th Letter
Banned
more like 30k
pretty sure cs had more than source as well
edit - I was wrong, it was 20k but CS had more players than CSS. GO did aswell
CS
CSS
CSGO
Skins were added August 2013
SodiumBenzoate
Member
Just when you think you've scooped all the shit out of the shitbucket, you find something even worse.
Wow.
Wow.
Totally justified ban.
Let's see if he actually stays permabanned.
He just got permabanned. He probably disappeared to talk to his lawyers.
Let's see if he actually stays permabanned.
He just got permabanned. He probably disappeared to talk to his lawyers.
Papacheeks
Banned
more like 30k
pretty sure cs had more than source as well
edit - I was wrong, it was 20k but CS had more players than CSS. GO did aswell
CS
CSS
CSGO
Skins were added August 2013
Your using 2013 for Counter strike, and counter strike source? Why not go to it's prime like 2006-2007.
5000 what? Dollars?
NoFaceNico
Member
I want to see these people banned from YouTube. YouTube will threaten your channel over copyrighted music but these guys get a free pass so they can commit their crimes on their channel. That's fucked up.
The 18th Letter
Banned
because it doesn't go back that far and he said it was leading until skins, which it wasn't.
It only goes back to July 2012 and CS always had more players than CSS. CSGO had more players starting from May 2013, and again the game wasn't even a year old and had a rough start.
Papacheeks
Banned
Really? Always thought during it's prime because of all the mods made from it, cs:source had way more than CS, and wasn't till skins came in that CSGO blew up way past cs:source.
During it's hay day CS had anywhere 250k-400k. Game informer issue from 2003 said something like 450,000.
The 18th Letter
Banned
probably but i was just going by steamcharts. 2006 shouldn't even count since A) it didnt lead up to skins and B) CSGO wasn't even out yet
Well he's banned from Twitch http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-as-valves-cs-go-gambling-crackdown-continues
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
CSGO blew up in numbers once the competitive community blew up.
Zomba13
Member
Wow, he seems like a terrible actor.
Quadraphonic
Member
It was fixed gambling, though.
This isn't a case of a slot machine where they have to have a percentage paid back.
This is a case of blackjack where the dealer kept giving himself aces whenever he wanted without telling the players and saying it was all luck.
That wasn't house edge, that was fixed outcomes.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Is he back? Huh?
andythinkpad
Member
Is there a twitter or facebook feed of his somewhere so I see him whine?
That's insane!
Also, those comparing this to legitimate casino gambling....no, it's not even close.
andythinkpad
Member
So what's the percentage of CSGO player that's actually gambling? Those revenue seem to be really high for a game. Am I an old man who don't get with the times?