What reform; everyone directly involved (cops, the state) love it because at the end of the day its more revenue for all, while the title can be argued to be clickbait a tougher argument is to say its untrue.
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Cops steal more from US citizens than burglars
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What reform; everyone directly involved (cops, the state) love it because at the end of the day its more revenue for all, while the title can be argued to be clickbait a tougher argument is to say its untrue.
Aizen.S.Kennedy
Banned
black guy with dreads here. If my life is in danger last person I'd call is a cop. So make that 99% next time you make made up stats white dude using Wong as a pseudonym.
its almost as if the world is in shades of grey, not black and white.
Yes i would call the cops if my house was being burglarized, i'm also white. In other instances like maybe a car accident or some sort of physical altercation with a minority, i may not be inclined to call the cops.
You only call the police when fighting with certain ethnicities?
Captin Quacker
Member
We've watched cops get away with murder, plant evidence, and cape for each other no matter how heinous the act
But stealing by abusing the law?
PREPOSTEROUS!!!!!
But stealing by abusing the law?
PREPOSTEROUS!!!!!
It actually foments a criminal economy. Criminal steals or illegally obtains goods, funds, police arrest, seize, another criminal - or the same one released - now has to reacquire more stolen or illegal property. It's a weird form of unprofitable fencing. There's occasionally individual benefits, but as a practice, it is an economic DRIVER.
i dont get into fights, but yea depending on the situation you're potentially just bring more trouble to the fight.
WaterAstro
Member
Police determines it.
They can say your house is being used for drugs with no evidence and take it for civil forfeiture.
If you have a large sum of money with you, they can take it saying you're using it for crime with no evidence.
i'm sorry what now?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Can't blast out Fuck Da Police tho because it's too offensive
100% they are just another group of criminals.
I grew up with friends who belonged to gangs - the kinds of gangs everybody had heard of. They had my back in fights on more than one occasion and I was grateful for it. Most of them met the kind of fate you would expect a gang member to meet - the kind of fate most cops are demonstrably exempt from due to state backing.
A gang is still a gang though, even if they're your friends. Cry more.
Muffin1611
Banned
I'm pretty sure he means that he won't call the cops on minorities as much as on white people for something like a fight since said minorities would likely not be treated well by the police.
To be fair, if you're living in a town lead by the mob and you feel you've been wronged, you go to the mob to get justice.
Depends if he wants the minority dead or not...
How I understood it as well.
NintendoGal
Member
Let's all also give a huge applause to that dickface Sessions for trying to push even more of this shit while we're talking about this subject.
The cops in eastern Oregon are poorly trained, poorly educated, and will change their attitudes depending on if they know you or not.
And guess what? If you aren't white, they don't know you.
CarpeDeezNutz
Member
Link? I didn't know about that.
Cops aren't a gang. Gang members actually go to jail.
LegendofJoe
Member
The policy shouldn't exist. It's in violation of every citizen's 5th ammendment rights. There is no discussion to be had, the policy needs to be challenged in the court system and done away with as soon as possible.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Just like everything else with US police I'd imagine it's wide open to abuse.
PataHikari
Banned
Yes, they are just another group of criminals.
And if I was a minority I sure as heck wouldn't call the cops if I was in danger, they might decide to shoot me instead.
BrutishMrFish
Member
Gangs in Baltimore banded together because the police couldn't be trusted. Do gangs stop qualifying as such when they protect people? Of course not. I'm just saying, there are other arguments to make the case you want that aren't defeated by basic logic.
Wait, so you honestly believe the odious shit you post on a regular basis? Jesus, part of me was hoping that you just hated this forum so much that you went out of your way to voice some of the worst opinions possible to get a rise out of people.
Are you? Since you're so mature, you could always lead by example instead of screaming at everyone else while jerking yourself off like you always do.
I'll start for you: Adoptive forfeiture, which allows local police to take property and give it to the federal government for a good chunk of the proceeds (up to 80%), should be forbidden by the DOJ as it was in 2015. It gives the police the ability to sidestep state laws with a bit of paperwork or the cooperation of a federal prosecutor. Also, the DOJ doesn't have any serious ways to protect people from civil forfeiture, it just advises law enforcement to proceed with caution when engaging in it. There's no review process to ensure that it's being applied fairly, which should change.
Psychoward
Banned
Thank you.
PataHikari
Banned
This is actually pretty normal.
Most gangs are started by marginalized groups banding together to protect themselves because the local government doesn't. They get into illegal activities because, again, marginalized groups who aren't allowed to do anything but illegal activities to survive.
Bubbavelli
Banned
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
No. You want to go buy a car from someone. Grab a few thousand dollars and get stopped along the way. The cop wonders why you have all that money. Even in light of your claim and evidence that supports you, the cop claims your money may be used for drug trafficking.
He seizes your money and you have to do to court to prove that your money is yours. This ignores the special hoops you have to fight because your money is given a special designation. That John Oliver video explains it well.
Just because they seized it and you waste time and resources to get it back is a flaw and terrible in a 'free country'.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Man, what the fuck happened to you? I could have sworn you weren't always a condescending shitposter, was I wrong?
Daaaamn
Bubbavelli
Banned
Imagine being this ignorant to the world around you. Hurts my heart that people are this stupid
Why don't you start instead of posting this?
Robdraggoo
Member
But it is. Items taken in forfieture are almost never returned, even when the suspect is found innocent. There's a last week tonight in it.
ChubbyHuggs
Member
Reminds me of when my dad was arrested with his savings of $10,000. It was seized as evidence in an illegal activity. They sent a letter to my mom saying they seized it and she could come and claim it, but we wouldn't be getting it back.
Theonik
Member
No. Cops can arrest your property because they deem it to be a criminal without charging you of a crime. Your property sadly doesn't have the same rights as you when this happens.
Unfortunately it is not so simple.
If I could call anyone else to do the same thing I would easily give up on police.
thats so fucked up. Im sorry that happened to your dad.
MugiwaraCole
Member
We're in the same boat.
"100%"
I have never called the cops when faced with pretty serious shit. The only reason I am likely to ever do so in the future would be some type of harm being done to my wife/children that I am completely unable to handle on my own.
Black people are killed by police officers that they called themselves all the gotdamn time. I come close to having a panic attack every time I'm stopped by one of them. Fuck them.
Christ. And people are defending this shit.
ChubbyHuggs
Member
It's all cool. He was illegal, so any activity he was doing was illegal. I'm sure the money went towards an espresso machine or something.
Skellig Gra
Member
I won't defend that bullshit, all I'm saying is there are legitimate reasons for forfeiture. Clearly this poor guys dad is a blatant abuse/corruption example.
ChubbyHuggs
Member
I remember quite a few threads on this very topic showing up here. The couple who had their whole home seized was crazy.
the process itself encourages corruption and should be done away with.
Civil asset forfeiture is ripe for abuse however this article is misleading in that the graph includes both civil and criminal totals (though fed only).
Criminal forfeiture happens after a conviction, it's the courts who decide. Civil forfeiture is where most of the issues lie. I'm no defender of asset forfeiture but people really need an education on the subject.
Criminal forfeiture happens after a conviction, it's the courts who decide. Civil forfeiture is where most of the issues lie. I'm no defender of asset forfeiture but people really need an education on the subject.
Skellig Gra
Member
You could say that about our entire criminal justice system. Not that I disagree with your point because its clearly in dire need of reform.
of course there are. However, like everything else the burden of proof should be on law enforcement, not the other way around.