CornBurrito
Member
So yes, a good arsonist wouldn't be last in post count on D1.
But I don't think they'd be high up there.
But I don't think they'd be high up there.
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Dark Souls Mafia |OT| Git Gud or Die Trying
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hey_monkey
Banned
While I'm not in favor of lynching you, this is simply not true re: LB and also not particularly applicable since you have a completely different role and position. I get the need to defend self but this isn't the way.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Sorry, I accidentally put a sentence in Christina's quote. It should read like this.
You are at 2 votes atm, not really in danger though. The vote could go in any other direction
hey_monkey
Banned
boy that'll solve us the game oh yeah
Your suggestions would be that we should go after the middle ground of players ?
Lord of Castamere
Member
I am not the arsonist, and I already made a response to your posts. Very middle ground stuff. If not for the Burb thing, I may have overlooked you entirely, which seems to be the point of your posts. Nothing you've done so far exonerates you, or gives me a reason to want you alive.
CornBurrito
Member
Actually I think the hypnotist should. I think a D1 lynch on the lowest contributing player would be best if we have no true scum reads.
CornBurrito
Member
That said, the lowest is currently rac.
Vote: rac
Vote: rac
hey_monkey
Banned
People I will not vote to lynch today:
LordOfCastamere*
oreomunsta
Sawneeks**
Burbeting
nin1000 (but maybe tomorrow)
StanleyPalmtree*
CornBurrito*
*stars indicate people I don't really think would be productive, not that I'm necessarily townreading them
**two stars indicates Sawneeks, who is probably scum but whom we need for now, I think
People I feel no kinda way about - possibly could be convinced:
rac
isaacnukem
Muffin1611
verelios (hmm, why do I have no impression here?)
flatearthpandas (has some posts worth watching but would rather see what develops)
Trigger? - was here but that weirdly defensive post invoking his LB2 lynch rubbed me wrong.
Christina Mackenzie
People I'd vote for:
Fireblend - this is primarily a gut read and I hate that, but Fireblend's posts to me seem calculated. Have talked about this before; will develop further in another post.
kitsunelaine - has speculated about the neutral and gone in on nin. Nothing else. Leaves so little impression despite a fair number of posts. Did not flip out when voted as in previous games. Feels very suspicious at this time, like she's filling space.
LordOfCastamere*
oreomunsta
Sawneeks**
Burbeting
nin1000 (but maybe tomorrow)
StanleyPalmtree*
CornBurrito*
*stars indicate people I don't really think would be productive, not that I'm necessarily townreading them
**two stars indicates Sawneeks, who is probably scum but whom we need for now, I think
People I feel no kinda way about - possibly could be convinced:
rac
isaacnukem
Muffin1611
verelios (hmm, why do I have no impression here?)
flatearthpandas (has some posts worth watching but would rather see what develops)
Trigger? - was here but that weirdly defensive post invoking his LB2 lynch rubbed me wrong.
Christina Mackenzie
People I'd vote for:
Fireblend - this is primarily a gut read and I hate that, but Fireblend's posts to me seem calculated. Have talked about this before; will develop further in another post.
kitsunelaine - has speculated about the neutral and gone in on nin. Nothing else. Leaves so little impression despite a fair number of posts. Did not flip out when voted as in previous games. Feels very suspicious at this time, like she's filling space.
Muffin1611
Banned
Is this based solely on post count? "Contributing the least" is something you can do and still have many posts that are nothing but fluff.
hey_monkey
Banned
But this is also relatively standard rac play. If we don't lynch you for standard play, why lynch rac?
vote: Fireblend
More to come.
Lord of Castamere
Member
We cannot just vote for an inactive today. This is the only guaranteed day that we're going to get info. A massive waste to use it on dead weight, unless that dead weight has some grounds to be scum.
I'm completely fine with doing that tomorrow, but not today. Please.
I'm completely fine with doing that tomorrow, but not today. Please.
hey_monkey
Banned
see also nin, who has beaten my post count but at least half of them are just air
CornBurrito
Member
Yes, purely on post count. I recognize that flaw. I need to go over his and fireblend's posts (the two least).
CornBurrito
Member
Well I do think there's the possibility of Arsonist/Scum being less likely to contribute.
For you it might be air
in my opinion over half of your posts are just bland and there to bloat your post count.
Guess we have to live with it.
For today I won't be voting you
Lord of Castamere
Member
To a degree, but I doubt they would be lowest by default. Especially with the discussion revolving around that dead weight for a few pages, wherein a regular townie would have less self preservation due to the boring role. That's not always true, but I think it usually is.
Has hitting someone purely for low activity ever rooted out scum? Mechanic usage has, it happened in Cthulhu for example, unfortunately, but in my experience, never for low activity only. Especially with so many to blend in with, and such a low bar for post count. I'm not against dead weight kills. I completely understand the merit, you need active townies late game, or the game's lost. This just isn't the time.
Now if that isn't the scummiest thing I've ever seen.
I'll take your strawberry ice cream if you don't want it
Vote: Sawneeks
I was going to vote for fep, but I see what he was talking about now. Your vote for me is weird
but why the OMGUS tho, this actively tells me nothing.
As for your analysis, which Monkey once again beat me to with similar points, I agree with her that while it is comprehensive and does cover most scenarios the fact that you're downplaying the Neutral is rather odd. There is almost a 2 Day Phase difference when the Neutral ignites targets in the most effective way possible and that's a VERY large change in our survival.
also next time I'll preface my pressure votes with 'WARNING: THIS IS A PRESSURE VOTE' so everyone doesn't freak out again >.>
You're right!
Vote: Stanley Palm tree
I think his vote isn't really reasoned well and his previous posts stay comfortably within popular opinion, I think. The confidence and lack of argument behind feels like someone who isn't particularly worried about being scrutinized.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. My role was different, sure. But the actual reads of me as an individual were just about the same, and I somehow ended up more suspicious than an unlikely claim. I only bring this up because if we're going to play this game differently then maybe we should start with our logic on Day 1 votes as well.
I don't think you're reading the ones I meant.
I mean, I'm town, if you guys wanna lynch me then I know this is going to drive town to suspect of Burb and that's 2 days down already, so ok but I really hope Burb is scum.
For the record I don't think LoC or anyone else voting me out right now should be looked at much because honestly there's not much to go on on for now and I get people wanting to vote for the safe option.
Going by the vote Tool we're looking at:
CornBro ( 2 ) v Trigger ( 2 ) v Fireblend ( 2 )
I don't feel strongly about any of these...
except maaaaybe Fire? I'd honestly rather prefer Burb over any of these but Fire's votes are the ones that confuse me. He's done nothing so far to give me any read on him one way or another and I mean, I won't argue against his lynch, but I feel he's a strong Town player and is fairly obvious when he's Scum so I almost want to wait him out since I can't make heads-or-tails of him yet.
Votes against CornBro always seemed weird, especially FEP's, but I've got nothing on him either.
Same goes for Trigger but I can't ever really read him
bleh
CornBro ( 2 ) v Trigger ( 2 ) v Fireblend ( 2 )
I don't feel strongly about any of these...
except maaaaybe Fire? I'd honestly rather prefer Burb over any of these but Fire's votes are the ones that confuse me. He's done nothing so far to give me any read on him one way or another and I mean, I won't argue against his lynch, but I feel he's a strong Town player and is fairly obvious when he's Scum so I almost want to wait him out since I can't make heads-or-tails of him yet.
Votes against CornBro always seemed weird, especially FEP's, but I've got nothing on him either.
Same goes for Trigger but I can't ever really read him
bleh
Lord of Castamere
Member
TBH, I wouldn't be against Burb today either. If that's a compromise to not choose a lazy inactive vote, then I'm okay with it.
hey_monkey
Banned
On Fireblend: Not quoting every post in full to save space.
FB gets into some mechanics talk, makes some good points about scum communication but still isn't really scum hunting, just speculating on the game - all of this is stuff that would have to be explored post-first-lynch because right now, we don't know where anyone is going to land or what will happen or why. So possibly useful but... also not particularly today? Still, NAI here; we're all speculating.
but why
just including that one since I referenced it.
Anyway, would also be fine with a kitsunelaine vote because I do find her extraordinarily suspicious today.
We didn't really get this. We got a vote on Stan that "felt alright" and we got some stuff on Burb that actually didn't seem truthful. See below.
The discussion was still ongoing and should be because of the game setup, which Fireblend himself tells about later re: special roles and information. This reads like still trying to kill discussion (essentially calling it repetition) while saying no, no, I'm not killing discussion.
FB gets into some mechanics talk, makes some good points about scum communication but still isn't really scum hunting, just speculating on the game - all of this is stuff that would have to be explored post-first-lynch because right now, we don't know where anyone is going to land or what will happen or why. So possibly useful but... also not particularly today? Still, NAI here; we're all speculating.
but why
Burb has not been back and I do want to hear from him on this but this whole line of thinking between Fireblend and (LoC?) is not based on a firm foundation. Burb didn't say FB was active or contributing; Burb remarked on how Fireblend usually acts (which fb conceded below). Here's speculation: Burb hasn't really been back since fb became more active so Burb might have been working on that honor system of busy player/not posting. I wouldn't necessarily put someone like that in my inactive list either, so I may be biased toward that perspective. I'm not saying this to defend Burb, just offering my thoughts. But! Since Burb hasn't been back, I do find the push on this suspect at how it's spiraled - does this really make Burb scum? One post? Or should we be more suspicious of multiple posts from several angles trying to turn this into scumBurb?
just including that one since I referenced it.
Anyway, would also be fine with a kitsunelaine vote because I do find her extraordinarily suspicious today.
True! And it being Day 1 probably means it will but I wanted to get a lay of where things were since we didn't have an active count going.
Vote: Burbeting
Yo I'd rather you voted me out than said I'm an "obvious scum". I'll have you know I've won like 3 games as scum
SMH I'm not taking this shit. Hurting my pride like that wtf
I'm not scum btw
Muffin1611
Banned
Yeah, perfect example. I gave a little read on him earlier about this already, and he's the only one I really have any bad gut feeling to go on. So I'll park my vote there if nobody makes me see a better alternative.
VOTE: nin1000
Muffin1611
Banned
Fireblend is suspicious to me too. These posts are really weird to me just coming from another game with him. It's odd.
I will take a stand and vote
VOTE: Burbeting
I don't know but the way you played early on the game just looking from the sidelines trying to throw shade thinking that it would go unnoticed, I don't know but something feels off.
I also wanted to pick someone in the middle of the Playerbase. Someone who is there but not really
VOTE: Burbeting
I don't know but the way you played early on the game just looking from the sidelines trying to throw shade thinking that it would go unnoticed, I don't know but something feels off.
I also wanted to pick someone in the middle of the Playerbase. Someone who is there but not really
hey_monkey
Banned
I love you too. But do you think oreo may be the neutral and this is a sneaky way to hold that middle ground that's being discussed?
The shaaaaade of referring to everyone voting you as being safe and seeding ways for others to read it as scummy. I see you.
I'll give you something though, this is how I've defaulted to playing today that we have no info, the setup is somewhat discouraging in the face of me being a more analytical player than someone who relies on gut reads and feels, and who is honestly busy for an active game, which gladly this is not.
If I go today at least I maybe provoked some reactions that will provide useful stuff later on. That said, still some ways off from the end of the day (right? *checks time*)
I'm a good player. Even in death I'll help town.
Where is Burb.
If I go today at least I maybe provoked some reactions that will provide useful stuff later on. That said, still some ways off from the end of the day (right? *checks time*)
I'm a good player. Even in death I'll help town.
Where is Burb.
Muffin1611
Banned
^We have an hour left.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Good points, and the reaction is a good indicator. Trying to casually shift to scumBurb when attacked. I didn't see that.
I agree though, Fireblend hasn't vibed well at all this game, and these reactions have compounded that. With the newest update, it feels really bipolar.
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Also, I don't really think your 3 games as scum matters much, as those were likely very different rule sets. Play style will undoubtedly change with role and rules.
hey_monkey
Banned
Burb is reminding me of Pineapple Pizza bear without the anger that came in later so I'm hesitant there. And since I know that isn't really helpful, I'll add: To me there's little reason to vote him so far - just that one thing with Fireblend, I guess, which feels more like narrative construction than real truth. Also since Burb hasn't been back to clarify that just doesn't sit well with me.
Unless there's a development in the next hour, I'm not on that train.
Unless there's a development in the next hour, I'm not on that train.
hey_monkey
Banned
I don't disagree, but... who do you think does have a well reasoned vote at this stage? Besides your own, obviously. Because it makes me wonder why this one.
I didn't mean it like that, you're an excellent scum player!, I just feel like I've got a good gauge on your game. When you're Town you're actively pushing discussion, posting questions, getting things rolling, but when you're Scum you take a more passive and responsive tone where instead of pushing things you just answer other people's questions and that's it. I saw first-hand how you played in Pokemon Mafia, I know what you do. <3
That said, you're in the middle of those two right now and it's why I can't make any sense of your alignment atm
Maaaaybe?? I honestly don't know, it's possible but that seems rather blatant to do. I mean I don't feel confident about him even after those big posts; posting a hypothetical scenario list is easy to do as any alignment and doesn't say much, same with the OMGUS vote...
Sawneeks feels like whenever I'm scum, I'm obvious scum (which is not true, what slander)
LoC feels like my previous behavior as scum doesn't apply to this game (not true either, I'd be doing great if I was scum)
Which is it.
Also Stan defend yourself
whose alignment can you make sense of
hey_monkey
Banned
Stan said he was not staying awake for end of day, did he not?
Lord of Castamere
Member
Um, I'm not Sawneeks.
That's a shame
Okay, I'm back and staying till deadline.
Can you elaborate on your Burb vote Saw? I think you got around to why you generally suspect him but not any specifics.