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Splinter Cell 6 Explores One Of Series Root Themes, Has All The Action Flick Elements
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The Demon Headmaster
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Please have spies vs mercs return. That's all I want. I'd even take an xbla port of chaos theory's multiplayer if it comes to that
Haunted
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Conviction wasn't even that bad.
But I'm not super huge on stealth games, so it going a more action-y route was fine. I always preferred Hitman's social stealth over the mechanical MGS cones or Splinter Cell darkness mechanics.
More open/freeform options like Thief and Riddick are fine as well, though.
But I'm not super huge on stealth games, so it going a more action-y route was fine. I always preferred Hitman's social stealth over the mechanical MGS cones or Splinter Cell darkness mechanics.
More open/freeform options like Thief and Riddick are fine as well, though.
infinityBCRT
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That game had some small bugs (such as when you tried backing out of a gameplay based menu using esc on the PC version, the game would look fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked), but seriously I don't know why people gave that game shit. I loved it. It was my favourite Splinter Cell and the first one that had a story that I gave a damn about.
Fixed. Chaos Theory was boss.
I liked conviction since I went to play that game knowing that it was not a Splinter Cell game. After that, I had a blast.
What about Final Fantasy?
Yep, the co-op missions were in fact pretty good and much better than the mediocre campaign which focused to much in action in places and lacked in challenge (even in Realistic difficulty)...if they can expand the concept of the co-op missions it could be a good game.
It's pretty sad though that stealth games nowadays focus on action instead of improving their controls/mechanics, level design and especially enemy AI...also hopefully they updated a good deal the old ass UE2.5 that Conviction used.
Bring back Amon Tobin please!!!!
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
No Chaos theory type SvM? Leave!
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Fixed.. I don't want far away hackng & pussy ass heartbeat monitors
I want Spy traps, mines with lasers, ammo backpacks, 3 different weapons for merc.... Basicly all of Chaos Theory MP
I was showing an MMO-focused friend the MP from CT+DA the other day and he was blown away. I had so much fun just explaining it to him.
A multiplayer component that's not dumbed down in the visual and performance department would be nice. Getting pretty tired of being forced to play with bad performance just because my coop partner doesn't have a decent enough computer.
What else? Get rid of the black and white stealth indicator. The purpose of it is obvious, but it ruins the possibilities of appreciating the visuals. Not to mention that it's hard to see anything at all since it went black and white every time you stepped into a black spot.
What else? Get rid of the black and white stealth indicator. The purpose of it is obvious, but it ruins the possibilities of appreciating the visuals. Not to mention that it's hard to see anything at all since it went black and white every time you stepped into a black spot.
Sapphire Dreams
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Sorry guys nothing can top Chaos Theory.
It was a lightning in a bottle it will never happen again.
It was a lightning in a bottle it will never happen again.
Night_Trekker
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I like how he didn't specify that that root theme is "stealth." Because obviously that isn't what he's talking about.
Chaos Theory was as good as it got. I suspect that will remain true. I had no interest in Conviction, and I'm sure I'll have no interest in whatever monstrosity they're creating now.
That would be great wouldn't it? But it wouldn't matter much if the game itself weren't as brilliant as CT.
Chaos Theory was as good as it got. I suspect that will remain true. I had no interest in Conviction, and I'm sure I'll have no interest in whatever monstrosity they're creating now.
That would be great wouldn't it? But it wouldn't matter much if the game itself weren't as brilliant as CT.
Night_Trekker
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Nah, the (original) Xbox version of Double Agent was basically an expansion pack for Chaos Theory. Great game, if not as great as CT itself.
Beat all 3 games on the collection problem free.
Conviction is a good game IMO. It added a lot of interesting mechanics that works well for the loud player, but didn't give too many mechanics for the stealth player. Not being able to pick up knocked out enemies, no way to kill a light without a switch stealthily, and having nearly every weapon reveal your position upon use makes stealth near impossible(and not very fun) on too many levels.
I'd like the next game to play like Conviction with all the available stealth options of Chaos Theory. Make the game less of a shootout and more of a survival game, I guess.
I'd like the next game to play like Conviction with all the available stealth options of Chaos Theory. Make the game less of a shootout and more of a survival game, I guess.
ss_lemonade
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The Xbox version of Double Agent was a different game compared to the 360 iteration. It was more like Chaos Theory and I heard it was pretty good.
I do wonder how the "Series' Root Themes" and "Has All the Action Flick Elements" even make sense together though.
Generation is delivering on the subtitles.
The series isn't going anywhere, AFAIK. There's a 5-year plan for the franchise starting with SC6, which has already been in development for 1.5 years.
Please keep it like Conviction. Conviction was a lot of fun. Nothing was more satisfying that being a predator while being stealthy. Taking out 6 guys in 5 seconds was absolutely awesome. And I loved the co-op stuff in Conviction too.
Keep it like Conviction Ubi. That was a great reboot from a stale Double Agent.
Keep it like Conviction Ubi. That was a great reboot from a stale Double Agent.
I like your enthusiasm (I really enjoyed SCC too!) but I feel sorry for you if you're not trolling with a post like that. You're about to be torn to shreds by CT/DA fans.
Damon Bennet
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http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news...ll-explore-one-of-the-franchises-root-themes/
The Suit, Rifle and Googles needs to return. I miss them, oh and the shadows.
More this please.
And I wish they would stop with the stupid subtitles, just call it Splinter Cell 6.
that screenshot blew my mind back in the day
I'm not. CT was fun. But you can't tell me that Double Agent wasn't a repetitive, awfully linear, mess. DA (aside from it's MP) wasn't fun. I felt like it never came down to skill in DA - just whether or not I figured out the one correct path.
Conviction was my favourite in the franchise. I loved the predator stealth where you can hide in the shadows, take out 5 guys, and no one's the wiser.
Please don't hurt me people. Personal opinion. I loved the co-op stuff too and taking out rooms of people together.
Criminal Upper
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I really hope Retribution is not the final title. How horribly generic.
What happened to cool titles like Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory?
What happened to cool titles like Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory?
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An alternate view is Conviction is a fucking horrible game. Here's why:
- lack of stealth and the dudebro influence;
- a ridiculously out-of-place level that was padding an already ridiculously short game;
- amongst the worst AI this generation;
- horrible character models on an engine way past its prime ;
- proliferation of invisible walls
I could go on. It seems Ubi ripped out all the good ideas and stuck them in AssCreed
Don't forget the sick-nasty 1 shot auto kills!!!
Though I guess that could be filed under the dudebro section.
I guess you had fun because you were able to melee dudes and then headshot three people with a Five-seveN.
Shame you're part of the problem that the series has.
EYEL1NER
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Shame you're part of the problem that the series has.
Guess so...
Bring on Retribution!!!
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In that case, its safe to say stealth games are not for you.
While I agree the ending segments felt poorly executed (spoilers regarding the end-game segments:
The concept of facing 3E agents was cool, IMO.
I played on the hardest difficulty available and I really enjoyed the enemy AI.
And I didn't know that using 24 and Bourne as inspiration were considered dudebro. I always considered both as highly-regarded series. (Okay, 24 got terrible towards the end, but that's a discussion for another thread...)
I think stealth very much played a part in the game. I used M+E very sparingly since I preferred to sneak up and incapacity enemies with my bare hands whenever possible. The environment was a gameplay mechanic in itself since it afforded the player new ways in which to be a stealthy predator, IMO. The environmental navigation in SCC is the top of the series, IMO.
Sure, it has a lot more action if you choose to play the game that way, but I feel that it makes sense with both the narrative and Fisher's character motivations this time around.
I know people found that annoying but I really enjoyed it. As someone who really likes when a game can go as HUD-less as possible, I enjoyed the fact that the mechanic conveyed very important information regardless of where a player was looking.
If Ubisoft wants to do the same thing with SC6, I feel that a Hardcore option wherein you can turn the light/dark indication off would be best, similar to how Eidos Montreal let players turn off the environmental/interactivity highlighting off in Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
SSX (2012) does it! I really enjoyed that too. It meant less HUD crowding, which I dug.
because everyone played Splinter Cell for it's narrative themes. remember that bad guy from the original? no, me either.
just show everyone how you implemented the 'win' button this time and be done with it.
THIS.