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In honor of Final Fantasy's 25th anniversary, GAF Plays: Final Fantasy games

Heropon

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The explosion creates a ghost ship with its proper ghost tripulation and ghost guests. The engines go to heaven and the Prima Vista crashes into an evil forest.

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Zidane and his friends keep being in this world as they have things to do. They earn new titles as undead beings: Zidane the Phantom Thief, Garnet the Unsaved Princess, Steiner the Dark Knight and Vivi the Necromancer. Being dead means the characters have an easier time crossing the fourth wall and explain more technical things.

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This forest is a Sproutella™ factory and the characters can die again, so the princess needs to be saved. Zidane transforms and does Headbutt Free Energy, killing a plant monster.

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The princess is kidnapped and Vivi is trapped. Luckily, the Necromancer has its own tricks. As a last resort move, the monster uses its own reserves of slow effect Sproutella™.

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Back in the burning base, the party is healed. The boss doesn't want to rescue the girl, but Zidane wants to do it anyway and fights him.

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Zidane wins the battle and adquires the title Freelancer. He then recruits Steiner and Vivi to get his girl back.

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Rufus Welcome Ceremony

As soon as the group leaves, the musical group performs this classic composition. I hope this answers your question, Jucksalbe.

And this ends this update.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Played quite a bit more of FF8, up to the missile base. It's hard not to shake the feeling that Disc 1 is pretty much where the game peaks.
I honestly feel the same way. Disc 1 (and a portion of Disc 3; mostly Esthar) is probably the best disc in that game because it truly gives you a feeling of being both a soldier while being tied down to a school. The colour scheme for many of the environments is lovely, and the game seems suited more for a military story than a story which takes into account the paranormal, time travel, etc.

Although it'll be weird going back to some of those weird translations of the SNES version, hahaha. Fucking tonics.
Pretend they're drinking liquor to heal themselves.

I was watching an LP of Final Fantasy IX the other day and when they got to this part, I couldn't help but to giggle. The game is simply filled with charm, quirk, and humour. Every single time that fight comes up, I can't help but to laugh and think it can be used in so many situations, especially since the bomb gets bigger and bigger.

"[GAF member], there's a mod behind you!"
"Shut up, GAF. Stop trolling."
"No, srsly, watch out for the mod...! D:"

Oh yeah, if you wanted to link to slower or prettier pieces, feel free to use the Edward Harp gif. I have two:

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I had to put the Edward one away for a little bit for storyline purposes in my playthrough.

I also have a Suikoden one, but I don't think it's necessary to use it here, lol.

Edit: Oh, they changed Zidane's name too in the Spanish version, huh? I've played FF9 in French and they felt like they had to change it to "Djidane" because it bore resemblance to the footballer. Sorry for resurrecting this ytmnd, football-GAF.
 

Jucksalbe

Banned
Don't worry! But I'm surprised that having played this part recently you didn't remember it was after the airship crashed.

I guess I'm playing too many games at the same time (and maybe shouldn't have played FF IX at 3am). Been switching between FF IX, Suikoden, Grandia, Borderlands, Devil Summoner, two Tomb Raider games and a small bit of Legend of Dragoon.
At least now I can remember it right.
 

Heropon

Member
Edit: Oh, they changed Zidane's name too in the Spanish version, huh? I've played FF9 in French and they felt like they had to change it to "Djidane" because it bore resemblance to the footballer.

It seems that the traductor didn't want to name him Zidane for the same reason and converted directly the romaji. I don't know japanese but it seems that ジタン is Jitan and that transforms into Yitán following the pronuntiation.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Yeah, you're right. Ugh, I think I'd read an academic paper for that a few years ago. Let me see if I still have it...

Fake Edit: Yep.
For example, the American translators of FFX-2 thought it necessary to change the name of one character, from Sano to Ormi. They may have considered that the original Japanese name Sano, that means 'healthy' in Spanish, could sound odd to an American audience with some knowledge of Spanish. Another example can be found in the translation of the name of the main character in FFIX, ジタン (Jitan) in Japanese, which was transliterated as Zidane in the US version. However, European translators considered this name could cause legal problems in Europe, as it is also the surname of a famous French footballer. In this instance, translators of different European languages were free to localise the name as they thought best. In the Spanish version, for example, the name Yitan was used, as it follows closely the phonetics of the Japanese original while avoiding the possible legal issue.
Mangiron, C., O'Hagan, M. (2006). Game localisation: unleashing imagination with 'restricted' translation. The Journal of Specialised Translation, 6, 10-21.

That paper uses Final Fantasy as a case study, so it's an interesting read for fans of the series.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Well, that explains why there were so many Spanish examples in the text. :lol

The papers I've read by her so far have been concentrated in the industry, like this one.

Article said:
Carmen Mangiron is Lecturer in Spanish in the School of Applied Languages and Intercultural Studies and a member of the Centre for Translation and Textual Studies at Dublin City University. She also teaches game localisation in the Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona and is one of the localisers of the PlayStation game series Final Fantasy into Spanish.

Jucksalbe said:
They kept "Zidane" in the German translation (and to be honest the name really always reminded me of the football player).
That's strange. I would've thought they'd have changed it in the German version too. They likely didn't change Zidane's name for the UK release. Perhaps the changes were limited to Romance languages?
 

Jucksalbe

Banned
From what I heard of the German version (didn't play it, imported the US version), I'm actually surprised they didn't call him "Sepp" or some other very stupid German name.

On the other hand, (old) German anime translations are often one of the only ones to keep the original names. So maybe they are more reluctant to change names.
 

Heropon

Member
Now that we're talking about localisation I'm going to list a little of vocabulary in the Spanish FF:

Artema (Ultima) - It comes from Arutema, the name of the spell in Japanese, that I suppose comes from Ultima. Multiple transliterations, funny. Ultimecia had a similar process and ended as Artemisa, the same name as a goddess.
Fulgor (Flare) - I don't know why they chose this, but it means radiance/brilliance.
Piro/+/++ (Fire/Fira/Firaga) - Prefix used in things related to fire of Greek origin.
Hielo/+/++ (Blizzard/Blizzara/Blizzaga) - Ice in Spanish. They didn't want to overthink the name I suppose.
Electro (Thunder/Thundara/Thundaga) - Prefix for things related to electricity. It's a little inconsistent to mix a common word with the other two, but who cares?
Petra (Break) - Rock in latin. What sense has break as a name for this spell?
Moguri (Moogle) - Directly from Japanese, it means something like bat (komori) mole (mogura).
Bégimo (Behemoth) - Another phonetic adaptation, everyone loves them.
Paals (Pulse) - The same.
El Nido (Cocoon) - This is an archipiel... It means nest.

This is all for today. The translators liked their phonetic games, it must be funny... or not.
 

jb1234

Member
I honestly feel the same way. Disc 1 (and a portion of Disc 3; mostly Esthar) is probably the best disc in that game because it truly gives you a feeling of being both a soldier while being tied down to a school. The colour scheme for many of the environments is lovely, and the game seems suited more for a military story than a story which takes into account the paranormal, time travel, etc.

Disc 1 just climaxes so amazingly well. Big assassination attempt (only marred by a dull sewer dungeon), lots of pretty FMV (which have held up terrifically) and epic (albeit easy) battle. After that, you're in jail, one of the big JRPG cliches and it's like all the air has been let out.

I know that there are some fine set pieces later in the game (Garden battles, Esthar) but up until that point, the game had some momentum going and it never quite recovers from the loss.

As you pointed out, it's hard not to admire some of the artwork. Each of the towns has a very distinct look, which the graphics and music sell. Some of them (especially Deling City) are a little too large, though, without the content to support their size.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Finally got to ???? and cashed in all my tails and adamantite etc. I do hope it has been worth it. Bomb was, to be sure, since it enabled me to ROFLSTOMP CPU, which is nice, because CPU is a nightmare boss. Anyway, my party is now Cecil, Rosa, Kain, Rydia and Golbez, all the boys have Blue Armor, Rydia has the Adamant and Rosa has the Minerva Bustier. Cecil has the Level2 Band on in the hopes of him catching the hell up. 30 floors to go, 5 FFs worth of boss fights, and I guess something like twenty levels for Cecil to gain before we're there. I hope the Blue Armor is broken, because I seriously could stand to have an upgraded defense going into this.


I've made it to Thamasa in FF6 and I have to sound like a total fool here for a minute: FF6 pulls some very mature things, I think. I cannot, in good conscience, expect a modern-day Final Fantasy to do things like have Celes ask Locke if she's just a replacement for Rachel, or have Leo admit to Terra that he stood by and did nothing while the Empire experimented on her her whole life and that that makes him no better than Kefka (which admission, in turn, makes him better than Kefka would ever be.) It's simple, and there's an element of SNES-gloves about it, still, but there's still so much about FF6's story that I just don't think I would ever see in FF games nowadays. From Sabin and Edgar's relationship, to Cyan's heartbreaking breakdown over his wife and child, the game really is the RPG for show-casing how to develop your characters.
 
Petra (Break) - Rock in latin. Break? What sense has that name?

The Break spells though cast petrify, don't they? So I'm assuming the work 'petra' comes from that. I think using 'petra' is more sensible than 'break' seeing as the act of the spell is turning the enemy to stone.

EDIT: I might be confused are you saying 'petra' is an odd localisation or 'break'? :s
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Previously on Batman’s Dying Dream, Batman commits regicide, Abe forgets how to use Exit, and Slam and Jam get stoned.

Today we should be going to get our copies of Atelier Toroia, but we’re gonna take a few detours instead.

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Let’s go back to Baron. People will tell you that Golbez mixed monsters in with some guards and that some guards were mind-controlled. Golbez is the winner of this game.

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Kingdom of Baron

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No, the monster gutted your king, and took his flesh in order to manufacture a disguise for himself. Take notes next time.

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Incompetence. The King was a huge Ninja Turtle in disguise, man. How did you not notice that? Stupids. And some of these guards, man. They’re charged with protecting the kingdom no matter what. But at the first sign of danger, they turn tail and hide? Whatever.

Let’s try to heal Slam and Jam now.

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Guess nothing works still, huh? Someone find us that Supersoft. Doesn’t matter, because in Final Fantasy IV, sacrifice means everything in this game. No one comes back from a debilitating condition, or from death.

Who knows what will happen in Batman’s Dying Dream, though.

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YOU SURE GOSH DARN WILL.

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We should check that out.

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Yeah, you’re going to see that a lot when you go throughout the castle and throughout the Town of Baron. Well, he was raised by the former King, so it would make sense. And he seemed to have been feared throughout the land at the beginning of the game. Now that he’s all pretty and wearing a lovely bow and is all sparkly, people seem to love the idea of him taking the throne, even though he seems to have little political experience. But no one needs political experience to run a country in Final Fantasy anyway.

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How could you let him take an entire fleet of airships?

Alright, time for the basement.

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Why would you need a secret throne in your basement? This makes little sense.

Also, Batman’s talking to spirits and ghosts. You know you’re near-death when…

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Ghost Dad Ghost King tells us to seek out the Land of Summons, but we don’t know where that is. He isn’t forthcoming with that information either. Maybe he’s merged with that soul of Odin thing that the Mist guys were talking about.

Now onto the Town of Baron.

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Chicks and dudes alike love Batman. Batman only loves his beer.

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But Golbez is the best character in this game.

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Finally, let’s raid Cid’s backyard. There’s only a bunch of potions here, though.

Let’s tell the Elder about Slam and Jam’s sacrifice.

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He doesn’t care.

Next!

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Genso Suikoden V – The Great Arts

This place is kinda nuts. It’s populated by little people, piggies, and toadies. Um. They do know we can cast Esuna on all of them and make everything ok, right? @___@

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I don’t think Batman and Thumbelina would be compatible.

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Wut? No.

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It’s like I’m reading Jack and the Beanstalk. Only we’re the giants. And they can probably steal our gold. So what could sustain such a town’s economy?

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In other versions, they refine Mythril, but Silver works. These poor people must be tucked into the mines to the south and north to mine and refine ore for us. But they seem ok? I don’t know.

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But look at all the expensive optional equipment they sell to you! If you have the cash, go for it. If you don’t, don’t bother with it. Your equipment as it is currently is decent. Besides, for the next dungeon, you won’t even need it.

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Chocobo Chocobo

We also have dancers. Unique dancers. All they do is play leapfrog.

Oh yeah, I knew I forgot to do something.

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This is our newest party member, Cid. Well, that’s not going to be his name in a minute, but we’ll call him Cid. Cid is a Chief. A Chief of Peeping. He’s there for personality purposes and for moving the plot along, as you’ll see later on. He wears Robotnik Goggles, has a dirty beard, yells at people, snarks and people, and he shows off his GIANT TEETH when he cheers.

He’s mostly there for physicals and to absorb hits, as you can tell. His agility stat, however, does him little favours.

This is his artwork, including his Nintendo Power artwork.


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Brain Lord – Boss Theme

In battle, Cid… well… he doesn’t have a lot of diversity. He gets Fight and Peep. It’s best to keep him equipped with a hammer, imo. And if you have him equipped with the right stuff and put him in the right row, he’ll hurt the enemy almost as easily as Batman and Donnie. His problem is that he’s really really slow.

Peep sucks. It’s an MP-less Peep/Scan. You at least get a nice animation/sprite for Cid, though.

By the way, I’ll note that the difficulty in this game has been jacked up a little bit now. This is probably my least-favourite party in the entire game, partially because you’re stuck with regular attacks for the most part, and a very shitty mage.

Cid isn’t going to be called “Cid” anymore.

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I had to omit a letter, but I think it fits.

Next!

I know that there’s another town that we can go to on the world map, but we’ll come here later anyway. I think it’s best to move on. Let’s try to find Atelier Toroia!

Cid said it was to the northwest, right? Let’s try going there.

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This is where we can find Atelier Toroia, right?

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Damcyan Castle

Wait. That’s a completely different name. Instead of going to where we’re supposed to go, we’re going to take another detour to a different castle. This one’s pretty wrecked and has been abandoned. Either that or everyone died.

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Proceeding up to the throne room would let us access two stairwells. We get mostly items and crap. A lot of the paths to the treasure chests are “hidden”. Sometimes you have to walk through walls, or walk around obstructions to get items.

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Who’s keeping these torches lit? And why?

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Oh shit, Monsters in a box!

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Last Ranker – Stand on the Earth

These enemies can hit pretty hard. This means that we’re not supposed to even be here yet. But we’re going to fight them anyway! We’re going to use Fire-3 to get rid of the Skulls. Then we’re going to use Weak to reduce the Staleman’s HP to near zero and hit it to get rid of it. You can also use Ice-3 if you wanted to.

We win a Slumber Sword, which can inflict Sleep status on an enemy.

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Go between the two pots there. This game likes to use a lot of those hidden passages for you to get to treasure chests. It was possible and quite a big deal then to enforce some minor puzzle gameplay, but I guess they can’t really get away with it now.

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Ys III: Wanderers From Ys – Valestine Castle (PCE Ver)

Next we fight two BlackCats and a Lamia.

BlackCats are assholes, for real. They can counter with Bluster or use Bluster at will. It can either cause paralysis or can just instadeath you. Cast Slow and nuke them with a Tier-3 spell. Or you could totally do it the easy way and use Stone against all of them. Whatever works for you.

You win the Drain Spear. Why would we even need one of those?

Next.

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This place looks pretty darn cool. I like the colour scheme.

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Tales of Eternia – Ability Test

LOL. People like to say that these guys are really hard but they aren’t. Cast Stone on them for an easy victory. Or you can use Weak + physical attack like I did.

And that’s how you beat Mad Ogres. You get a measly Elixir for winning (it gets outshined by the weapons we get, tbh).

Since we didn’t get to Toroia last time, let’s go a little south and see where we could…

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The Airship

Where the hell do we land?

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Ugh.

Next Time: Did I tell you guys that this is the part where I begin to find the game absolutely boring? Because this is the part.

Also: WHAT!? WHAT IS THIS NASTY MUSIC!? UGH!
 

Heropon

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Right before fighting the source of all evil, Vivi equips the queen's present. It teaches Thunder, a little useless right now but it's nice to learn more things. A prestigious Black Mage should master every type of magic. Unfortunately, he isn't a good Necromancer and he only will learn some copying techs after the final boss.

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Battle 2

Boss Battle 1, Plant Brain: Wow, the famous master of the forest. It can hit hard with lightning, so I thinks it's one of the most difficult first bosses in the story of FF, look at that yellow number!

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Blank appears to rescue the party and hit hard the plant. One last piece of advice, KILL IT WITH FIRE!

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Victory Fanfare

We won!

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Run!

The happiness doesn't last long and some monsters appear. Before fighting them Steiner equips one of the best abilities, it increases the amount of experience he receives. Fire kills them fast, so a multi-target cast ends the battle in one turn.

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The forest starts to selfpetrify and Blank gets trapped...

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Cry in Sorrow
Damned arbitrary headcount limit! You always remove the best people! Ricard, Palom, Blank... Tellah not, he was a nuisance with that measly 90 MP.

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A moogle gives the party a flute and Steiner receives the title Absentminded Knight. I want all the titles in this game, gotta catch'em all!

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Over the Hill

One of those memorable moments in FFVII, the first time you see the World Map. This ends our adventures for today!


EDIT:
The Break spells though cast petrify, don't they? So I'm assuming the work 'petra' comes from that. I think using 'petra' is more sensible than 'break' seeing as the act of the spell is turning the enemy to stone.

EDIT: I might be confused are you saying 'petra' is an odd localisation or 'break'? :s

Bad worded, I meant that break was a strange name for a spell that petrifies.
 

Heropon

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I thought that I couldn't do post FFIX games, but I've managed to get running a PS2 emulator. I'm pretty new at these things, I hope this screenshot is good enough.

I'm playing in 16:9 but for some reason it takes 4:3 screens, what's the problem?
 

Goli

Member
I've been reading your FFIX posts Heropon… I'm really surprised at how not terrible FFIX's Spanish translation seems to be O_O.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I've made it past FF1 in the Lunar Depths. Gotta beat the game by tomorrow night. That's only what, 20 more floors of back attacks, right?
 

jb1234

Member
While I'm enjoying my FF8 playthrough, I realize that I've never beaten FF2 or 3. 2 I've barely touched and I get so bored by 3 on the DS that I give up a few hours in.
 

Kokonoe

Banned
I obtained the four crystals and I'm currently about to do the final area. I also obtained Excalibur which brought up Warrior to Monk in damage levels, and it looks pretty neat too.

I have to say that the bosses have been pretty easy ever since Black Mage started getting newer spells, Tiamat was a "joke" so to speak. Oh, and this PSP version is absolutely amazing.

Chaos Shrine - Final Fantasy (PSP)
 
So at the FF 25th Anniversary event last week at PAX, they had old copies of Nintendo Power and Gamepro on hand next to the game set ups: each issue that featured the release of a mainline FF game. I picked up the Nintendo Power that had a feature on SNES IV and got to see the character art that Dark Schala posted firsthand. Truly horrifying. I can't imagine what they were thinking.

Heropon, your posts are making me want to replay IX...and I'm already in the middle of an existing IX replay. XD
 

CorvoSol

Member
I WILL FINISH THIS GAME BEFORE FRIDAY, DAMMIT.

I've made it to the bottom of the Troon now. Rydia's reclaimed Bahamut, and I've slaughtered every boss in FF history now except Omega and Shinryu because dammit it's my birthday (or was) and if I don't wanna I won't. Also I just don't have time. By now, Rydia, Cecil, Golbez, Kain and Rosa are pretty much leaving a trail of pure annihilation in their wake, and I do so relish the thought that previously God-Mode-Mary-Sue Maenad is now shaking in her white nightie, because there really is no stopping this one-way Doom Train that's hurtling straight down the Troon's hole right to Creator's fetal face. It's passengers? MOTHER EFFING THE HURT.

I have METEOR, and BAHAMUT and ULTIMA WEAPON and HOLY. I have Blue Armor and Adamant Armor and Twin Stars. YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS SHIT NO MORE CREATOR. Akiyama Armor? Tokita Blade? Debug Ring? WHO NEEDS 'EM. I'm gonna march right into B59 and beat the mother loving CRAP out of the PuPu claiming to be the most powerful being in the universe.

And it feels GOOD.
 

Heropon

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It seems there's a war behind the wall, but who cares? There's a woman behind too and Zidane knows where to place his priorities.

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I heard there were friendly battle scenes in this game protagonized by cute enemies and the like, but these guys aren't and that dooms them. The trance bar decides to fill up in this battle and Zidane burns them all! MWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!! Let's talk a little about the trance system, the bar increases so slooooooowly and then in the easiest battle, bam, it's filled and you have to waste it in some weakasses. Truly disappointing. Zidane gains the title Squirrel Slayer for his respect for the flora and fauna of the Mist Region.

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Ice Cavern

The party reachs their destination, a convinient natural place that connects the lower region with the superior. God Bless the cave.

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Vivi is the real protagonist in this place, look how he burns all those things! The majority of items are things like ethers and elixirs, even a weapon that I already have! Vivi adquires the title Piromancer. He likes those -mancer titles, let's get them.

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Behind one of the walls there's an item that teaches Blizzard. Hmmmm, I think I won't use that spell in this place. The most important thing imprisoned in the ice is a cranky moogle.

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Oh, oh, I'm seeing another Game Over screen. My characters are dying again!

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Luckily, Zidane has the Vital Spirit ability and awakes, only to go to a boss battle immediately.

Boss Battle 2, Black Waltz 1 and Zillion: The mercenary black mage bites the dust soon as he eats Zidane's daggers.

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The big monster has some daggers (?, well the random monsters have money so it isn't so strange... maybe the monsters have their own economy and I'm commiting genocide!!!). It isn't lucky to be in front of a frenzied Zidane and dies mercilessly.

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Our lovely friends awake and everyone is fine and dandy. The new daggers have an ability that increases steal rate, wondrous.

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Garnet wants to name herself after a dagger, let's follow her wishes...

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...NO! What an ugly name, I won't allow that. "From now on, you'll call me Garnet. What do you think Zidane?" Hohoho, she thinks that she has changed her name...

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Fairy Battle

This forest is dark and full of terrors, but also has friendly squirrels like this one. It wants our ores, my theory about the monster economy seems to be true. This update ends with lots of Ability Points thanks to our furry friend.

Just in case no one notices your post, I appreciated it.

Thanks!
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Man, Heropon... between your playthrough and the LP I just watched, I'd like to start up a playthrough of FFIX on my own time on Vita.

I WILL FINISH THIS GAME BEFORE FRIDAY, DAMMIT.
LOL, the way you're going about it is as if TAY is a weird fanhack. And you wouldn't really be wrong about that either. I've played quite a bit of fangames before, but man, TAY... that RNG is weird, some of the enemies seem shoehorned in just because, and the story can sometimes be fanfic drivel/feel like it's retconning stuff.

Hope you finish it off before you restart school!

I picked up the Nintendo Power that had a feature on SNES IV and got to see the character art that Dark Schala posted firsthand. Truly horrifying. I can't imagine what they were thinking.
Katsuya Terada's artstyle works extremely well for Zelda games, but it really didn't fit for FF4 despite being in the same "era". The Palom and Porom artwork is especially bad.

No one wears pants in Terada's universes, obviously.

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That got a laugh outta me last night but I had to stifle it cuz my parents were watching the DNC and I was on mobile at the time, lol.

That's totally how it went down, I bet. Hahahaha!

Petra (Break) - Rock in latin. What sense has break as a name for this spell?
Paals (Pulse) - The same.
El Nido (Cocoon) - This is an archipiel... It means nest.
No, no. You're right. It's an archipelago. >.>

That's kind of something I never got with regards to Break, tbh. It made more sense to call it Stone since it petrifies you and turns you to stone in the graphic for the sprite. I'm surprised they renamed Cocoon. Did you guys get English voicework or Spanish voicework for FF13?
 

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English voicework. It was funny hearing Barthandelus and reading Baldanders at the same time. The Cocoon/Nido case was different because the words are completely different. The best was when they talked about Pulse/Paals because they're about the same phoneticaly.

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Border Village Dali

There isn't much to say about what happens, they reach a peaceful village and go to the inn to rest. So fun!

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The party gets separated and the members have more funny adventures. Garnet is one the few people that doesn't dislike oglops.

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Zidane finds the princess in the shop training her speech, but she fails saying strange sentences. Thanks to her efforts, Garnet adquires the title The People's Princess that increases a 1000% her charisma stat.

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Meanwhile, the Dark Knight Steiner tries to get information to return to Alexandria.

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Oh, noes! Vivi has been kidnapped and our favourite couple has to save him. The secret cave under the village doesn't last long hidden.

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The hideout has interesting things like moguris in barrels, piromancers in boxes and mist powered machines. This people in the countryside have technology more advanced than in the capital, they must be planning something...

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Surprise, surprise! They are creating black mages with mist. This casts a dark shadow over Vivi and begins to question his existence. Poor boy. But things get complicated and the group end in a box.

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Steiner keep molesting villagers and gets the information he wants. He talks like my grandfather!

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Steiner almost pierces the princess with his sword, I'm so sad (seriously).

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Another of those pesky black mages, oh sorry, not you, Vivi. She likes to counterattack magic with stronger magic. Luckily Steiner knows how to use Lightning and does some serious damage to the evil being.

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It's time to rest for now. This update was more boring than I thought, too much green and peace.
 

Ultratech

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That's kind of something I never got with regards to Break, tbh. It made more sense to call it Stone since it petrifies you and turns you to stone in the graphic for the sprite.

Break makes sense if used on an enemy. I always assumed it petrifies the enemy and they shatter thereafter, thus Break.
Of course, it makes pretty much no sense if used on a Player since it won't shatter them (at least until FFX? That's the one of the few games I know of where where you can be shattered after being Stoned, resulting in an insta-kill.).
 

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Oh, Zidane, you so clever! He adquires the title Pervert Lv.1. Vivi is in the middle of a identity crisis because he has seen more black mages, but Zidane doesn't care and goes to a thing that looks like a chest, but it isn't.

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This ship goes to Alexandria, but Zidane knows how to go to his real destination and replaces the black mage as the pilot. Life isn't easy being the pervert freelancer phantom thief and Steiner wants to stop him.

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The case is that when this game has serious business I can't think of anything to make fun of it. Images are better than words.

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Look her face, "How bad I am, mwahahaha".

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Boss battle 4, Black Waltz 3: Vivi enters trance as soon as the battle starts.

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Look at that Lightning magic! After stealing all the items, Steiner enters trance too and kills the monster.

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It isn't totally defeated and invades the jesters' ship. The first good thing the Black Waltz does!

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After a dangerous persecution through the South Gate, Black Waltz fails at controlling its magic and causes a great BOOOM. Garnet wins the <30,000 kg airship license thanks to her heroic acts.

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Lindblum is just before us, but that's the next update!
 

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Cid's Theme

The princess and her cohorts discover some top secret information as soon as they reach Lindblum: The country is governed by Cid the oglop. Zidane is so disgusted that goes to lunch in the city. There are nice chicks in this place and thanks to that Zidane wins the title Womanizer. There is a giant female rat too that happens to be an old friend of our favourite hero.

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New character alert: Freya (Freija) Crescent.

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Cid used his privileges as an Expert Womanizer and tried to flirt with a chick, but he was caught by his wife and was transformed into an ugly bug. You know what they say: When a chick sees you with another chick prepare for problems, because she is going to transform into a fire-breathing monster chick, and kill you and the another chick. CHICK. The rumours tell that the lover is at the bottom of the sea.

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Lindblum

It's shopping time for everyone. Steiner tries to win a Womanizer title but fails miserably with the town girls. Meanwhile, Cloud goes to the weapon shop and sees a sword as big as the one used by a guy with spiky hair.

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This town has a special type of shop unique to this game, the legendary synthesis shop. Combine two items in one and get powerful equipment. Pretty interesting. Vivi gets some kupo nuts to hunt moogles meanwhile.

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About time we knew about how Tantalus were doing, it seems they enjoy the journey drinking coffee.

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In the theatre district there's a show protagonized by some type of "sex symbol". He has the Mascot dressphere, that means that he saved the Guado, he MUST DIE!

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Time to see our lovely princess, but she's in another chamber. After the classic trick of smashing a soldier and putting his clothes, Zidane can reach the 70th floor.

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The birds are singing, isn't it beautiful? Zidane convinces Garnet to see though a telescope so he can stare at her back meanwhile. He knows his tricks.

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Before the Festival of the Hunt starts, Zidane gives some herbs to Garnet. Isn't this illegal? The guest monsters of this year are the dangerous SQUIRRELS!! Steiner and Garnet betray Zidane and give their support to Vivi. If I win I'm not going to give anything to you!

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Hunter's Chance

Zidane starts in the worst zone, that's some serious boycott. That's the perfect victim, a solitary squirrel!

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Ugh, that's too much damage.

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ZIDANE uses HEADBUTT. It misses!
PRETTY SQUIRREL uses ROCK THROW. It's supereffective!
ZIDANE fainted! Heropon is out of usable characters. ZIDANE blacked out!

Ouch, beaten by a pretty squirrel. My pride is below the floor right now.

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Freya wins and thanks to the bag of sharing I win too.

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A poor Burmecian soldier appears and dies in front of everyone. They show their concern for a little before eating all they can.

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But the evil princess and her cohort, Steiner, poison everyone and flee. And they want to make me believe that her mother is the bad one...

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Our next mission is going to Burmecia to help and see if the princess is there breaking havoc. Until the next time!
 

CorvoSol

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Man, Heropon... between your playthrough and the LP I just watched, I'd like to start up a playthrough of FFIX on my own time on Vita.


LOL, the way you're going about it is as if TAY is a weird fanhack. And you wouldn't really be wrong about that either. I've played quite a bit of fangames before, but man, TAY... that RNG is weird, some of the enemies seem shoehorned in just because, and the story can sometimes be fanfic drivel/feel like it's retconning stuff.

Hope you finish it off before you restart school!

True, true. But you know, for all of it's oddities, TAY is really still a solid FF game and, since it's got Golbez, I don't care that Maenad is Rydia on God-Mode. It's an addictive game, after awhile. I'm getting the Complete Collection for my birthday (which was the 5th) and I think when I do I'll spend the time to max things out. The only FF I've ever done that one is Type-0.

I think I like the sound of the PSP version having a 3 Party Boss fight. It's something I wish that more of these JRPGs that dump 14 party members in my lap would do: Multi-party dungeons and bosses. I mean, think about it. The dungeons in FF6 are spectacular for that reason.


Oh, and I'm gonna do FF1 PSP instead of GBA. I mean, it was 10 bucks on Amazon.
 

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Qu's Marsh

This is a part of the game where it opens a little, and I like those parts in games. Our first destination is a place below a question mark. Hey, those guys from the tutorials I didn't show in any update!

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It's the strange being of the castle's kitchen. I bet she was fired because she stole the food. She's so sophisticated, she only eats frog legs. Thanks to Zidane's gift...

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Chrono Cross - Victory ~A Cry in Summer~

Quina joins your party!

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Quina's master (Quera in this version and it's female too) scolds her because she can't catch a damned frog. Zidane discovers that Vivi's grandpa was a Qu... That pretty much confirms that's he's a robot, oh boy! Quale says she didn't know him, but she knows too much! Suspicious...

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Minigame time! Catching frogs. Pretty basic, you move Quina and press x to catch one. Each time she gets a determined number of frogs the party gets a gift.

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Thanks to this yellow scarf Quina gets the ability that increases the money gained, and she's the only one that can learn it! Let's learn some skills:
-Aqua Breath
-Frog Drop

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Going to the East there are Draboliks, they like to incinerate the characters with their powerful flamethrower attack. And if Quina eats them she gets Angel's Snack, a present from Edward.

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Aloha de Chocobo

Next destination, the Chocobo Forest. This contains a moogle and his chocobo friend, thanks to them we do...

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Another minigame: "Chocobo Hot and Cold". I don't want to explain, but this gives Chocographs and Chocofragments and that means valuable goodies $$$

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If we go further in the world map, we can go to the place where Tantalus was and get some coffee. Thanks, Cinna!

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Ukelele de Chocobo

With the Chocographs we find our first two treasures, that contain lots of valuable things. I love the hot and cold minigame because it isn't frustrating (I'm looking at you, FFX) and it's pretty rewarding.

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Persona 3 - Jika Net Tanaka

There are more friendly monsters in the forests apart from the beggar types. This one tells some piece of trivia and I have to say if it's true or false. It's a little confusing thanks to the gamepad config (X is confirm, but here is false and O is cancel and here is true, besides, red screams WRONG). And the question is: "The Chocobo Forest is between Lindblum and the South Gate". I don't know, I've just been there, so it's TRUE.

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Before going to the Gizamaluke Grotto, Quina learns some more skills:
-Pumpkin Head.
-Mighty Guard.
 

CorvoSol

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Dark Schala, into Thy hands I commend my controller. IT. IS. FINISHED.

And, saying that, CorvoSol gave up the game.


So yeah, I beat FF4TAY at long, long last. It's been one HELL of a trip, and I'm satisfied with my run, but sad that it's over, too. I'll come back to it, I guess, and try to kill Omega and Shinryu, but not yet.

Final Stats are abbreviated for the same reason: Cecil, lvl61, Rosa lvl65, Kain lvl68, Rydia lvl67, Golbez lvl66. Rydia all summons +Meteor, Golbez Meteor, all Bands, Twin Stars, Blue Armor, Adamant Armor, Rare Band v2, Level Band v2, Limit Band.

Farewell, Golbez. I'll see you in Dissidia, you loveable Darth Vader, you.
 

Dark Schala

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My updates are probably going to come during the weekends mostly, or when I feel like I have time during the week now that I've restarted classes and stuff. I think it's better this way considering we hit the part where I start getting bored with FF4. :lol

Oh god, you had to exploit the RNG for all of your stuff, didn't you? :lol

Well, glad you're done (and happy belated birthday, btw!). You seemed more interested in it than you did in FF5, tbh. >.>

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Cid used his privileges as an Expert Womanizer and tried to flirt with a chick, but he was caught by his wife and was transformed into an ugly bug. You know what they say: When a chick sees you with another chick prepare for problems, because she is going to transform into a fire-breathing monster chick, and kill you and the another chick. CHICK. The rumours tell that the lover is at the bottom of the sea.
Alright, this got me.
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It's true! Don't cheat, people!

Keep it up.

Final Fantasy IX's towns are some of my favourite towns in gaming. That even includes Dali, lol. Love the colour, love the design, love the setting, love the music, etc. The mood and atmosphere for the majority of them are very well-executed, and in some cases, you can find who important figures are in those towns, or delve into their histories a bit.

Lindblum is one of my favourite cities ever. Making you start in the worst district for the Hunt thing was the most bs thing ever, though. But I always try to make Zidane win because reasons. I don't know.

Also, Chocobo Hot and Cold is one of my favourite minigames ever.

Break makes sense if used on an enemy. I always assumed it petrifies the enemy and they shatter thereafter, thus Break.
Of course, it makes pretty much no sense if used on a Player since it won't shatter them (at least until FFX? That's the one of the few games I know of where where you can be shattered after being Stoned, resulting in an insta-kill.).
I can't remember what Petrify did in FF8, if you could strike something and it'll break into pieces? I know they broke up in FFX and FFX-2. Now shattering someone into pieces makes sense. But based on previous games, Stone seemed like the better spell name.
 

CorvoSol

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Oh god, you had to exploit the RNG for all of your stuff, didn't you? :lol

Well, glad you're done (and happy belated birthday, btw!). You seemed more interested in it than you did in FF5, tbh. >.>

I did indeed exploit the RNG for all of it. The Adamantite, the Tails, and Rydia's Summons. Not gonna lie, when I play the PSP version I'm just gonna cheat.

And I DO love FF5, I really do, but I have mental issues with that game. As a kid it was the hardest FF of all time for me, and Neo-Ex-Death was the hardest final boss ever. I'm saving Shinryu and Omega for when I get there in FF1, as I intend to pretty much make a humiliation conga for Shinryu after everything he did in Dissidia.
 

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I'm on chapter 13 in final fantasy 13 and basically doing missions and grinding on pulse.

Damn does it take allot of cp when you are level 4.

At what hp level should I be at before taking on the final boss? I want to just finish this game and start playing ff 13 -2
 

Heropon

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Freya's Theme

The characters reach at last the Gizamaluke's Grotto after an update full of optional things. This place has a new mechanic, each door can be opened by a bell that you have to find. Well, find, they're are so easy to get that they find you.

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This is new, the black mages are killing people with fire. And that's something our heroes don't like and that brings their demise.

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After opening a door the group sees a moogle with her husband trapped by a large bell. The moogle untraps himself thanks to a power increase caused by the smell of Vivi's kupo nuts. This is nuts.

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A random battle ensues against a transvestite monster. It likes to cut people and kiss them. Truly horrifying. The punishment is being eaten by Quina and she learns Lv.3 Defless.

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This bell seems different, that means that it must open the final door, what could be Behind the Door?

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Chrono Trigger - Boss Battle 1

Boss fight 5, Gizamaluke: It likes to do huge damage to the characters thanks to its physical attacks and water magic.

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But thankfully, Zidane can halve the damage output thanks to the Organix's darkness unleash.

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If we're insistent enough, the monsters gives Vivi an Ice Staff, with the first tier 2 magic, Blizzara.

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We can try to use Lightning to defeat it, but it doesn't stand it and mutes Vivi.

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Defeated! And now to get the spoils.

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Boundary South Gate

In this song we can see the leitmotif in many Gayan songs: Melodies of Life. It seems that we can know about Steiner's whereabouts. The guards are pretty nice, but they have to follow the procedures thoroughly.

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Steiner has to help people so they move their butts and he can get the princess out of the bag full of gysahl pickles.

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The last thing we see in this place is Garnet taking a ride to the top of the mountain.

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The POV returns to the main party. We take a little detour and go to the beach. More chocobo treasures await!

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Digimon - Digievolution (Don't know if it has a name)

Ugh, there were some illegal substances in there, but thanks to them the chocobo evolves into a blue variety. I can cross shallow waters now and get more goodies and brilliant stones. Look at that, a giant tornado!

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If we cross the Gizamaluke's Grotto again, the party can get some nice items including the Oak Staff that grants early access to the mighty spell Bio.
 

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Kingdom of Burmecia

Someone has done something awful to this place. I get my first Stellazio, Cancer. That's my Zodiac sign! That reminds me that I did't get Aries before, but it doesn't matter. Quina learns another skill, Magic Hammer.

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This place is full of enemies: black mages, evil summoner chests, evil exes (the ironites). Nasty.

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The secret to get this wonderful chest is to walk instead of run because the floor can fall.

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Thanks to some timed jumps and intensive searching the group gets another bell, that, oh surprise, opens a door.

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There are still citizens hidden in the city and Zidane has to save them. That's 90000 gil! But they were poor and nothing was gained. Zidane has learned Void! Now he can destroy the world, mwahahahhaha! Unfortunately, Void transforms into What's That!? immediately.
When I was playing I didn't realize the word Void anywhere, it must be a pretty well timed screenshot.

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Time to get goodies: Mythril Lance, Lightning Staff and some items sold by Stilzkin.

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The party infiltrates the castle and spy the big fat cow and her lap dog. There's a mysterious man too, I'm so lucky!

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A stupid burmecian tries to attack the bad guys, but he's underleveled and the heroes have to save him from Beatrix's wrath.

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Mistery Sword

Boss fight 6, Beatrix: First things first, Freya uses Reis's Wind and everyone gets temporal Regen.

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Vivi gets a oportune trance and starts casting Bio like a madman.

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Beatrix likes OHKOing my characters with Shock, and that angers me!!!!

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When a good chunk of her life is taken, she decides to finish the fight. Another defeat, Zidane! I like you, but if you're going to die so many times I'm going to have to change you for Lightning.

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Weaklings!!!!!!! Quina isn't there because she's optional and CGs are expensive.

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The mysterious man flees in his dragon. I hate this guy, can I hit him?

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END OF DISC 1
 

Ultratech

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That's what it was now...it was the Black Waltz 3 fight that took forever since I kept trying to Steal with no success...ugh!

And I really like the music for Burmecia. Really sets the tone for that place.

Chocobo Hot & Cold was fun too. Wonder if I should replay IX again soon...
 
You didn't try to peek at Garnet while she was changing at the gate?

...not that I would do such a thing. Also, nice touch with the digivolving theme.
 

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This update shows Garnet's adventures in her return to her home. She reunites with her old friends the thieves. Steiner doesn't like them and tries to stop the princess of getting along with them. His reward is a scold. They want to get the super soft (platinum feather), use fomicry and copy it, sending the replica to the Mysidian elder and the real deal to cure Blank.

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Marcus joins the party and they find another friend, the Black Waltz 3.

Boss fight 7, Black Waltz 3-2: Easy is a word that defines well this fight. You can steal a Fire Staff from her/it.

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And another Lightning Staff.

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From here we can go to Dali or Treno. Remember the lost Aries stellazio?, we're going to get it first.

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Items, items, items.

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After getting some items in Dali, the party goes to the Treno area, but before entering the city, the party goes to the left. There are some semi-difficult enemies on the way. The mandragoras like to use a [MAX HP-remaining HP] attack that can be pretty nasty, so it's better to hit them hard after they do an attack.

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The princess finds a place called Quan's cavern. It seems that Vivi lives here, and the piece of information regarding his height problems confirm again that he was created. The first time I played this game I refused to believe he was created, but the game kept giving clues and at the end it was a sad revelation... Suspicious bubbles, have they any meaning?

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Before leaving, Garnet heals for free and gets the Scorpio Stellazio (3/12).

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Dark City Treno (The City that Never Sleeps)

Steiner argues with Marcus and the crazy princess walks away alone. Marcus leaves too and Steiner is all alone.

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Steiner is superstitious and drops coins in a fountain in hopes of being happier, and he gets the stellazio Gemini (4/12).

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There are some mature kids in the city talking about the political situation, the future of the gil and the sovereign debt crisis. The monster economy is rising and has a currency based on ores. Rumors say the war caused by Brahne is a way to stop the recession by investing in weaponry, and the destruction of cities gives jobs to the constructors. The future is darker than Treno. And Steiner gets the Taurus stellazio (5/12).

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Let's get the rewards for collecting the Stellazios: 8000 gil, a phoenix pinion and a Blood Sword. Niiiiiice.

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It's a good time to go shopping and synthetise some items to get many skills. Pro tip: Mythril swords are neccesary in some CD4 synthesis items and no one sells them at that point, so buy more than you need.

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It isn't very rewarding, but I'm going to kill the giant bird in the armory. It's a good idea to use the newly adquired Blood Sword to recover all the life after each attack.

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It likes to cast Aero and Aera, so equip wind resistant equipment or it WILL hurt.

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And the reward is a stupid card. I only did it for bragging rights, but I wanted nice things :(

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Garnet sees the mysterious man before joining Steiner again. Is he King, the mansion's owner?

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She goes to see the thieves to steal the Super Soft. Steiner likes barking Princess! all the time.

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Kuja comments how the queen, her general, the rats and Zidane's group hurt his aesthetic sensibility.

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Instead of stealing the item, the party finds the princess former teacher and he promises to give her the soft later. And he delivers. Item get!

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Aerth... Aerith... They must have something in common...
Earth

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Gargan Roo

Thanks to Bobo the party has access to some rapid transportation to Alexandria. Garnet must use some devices because Tutu isn't tall enough.

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The gargan seems to be a giant insect. People dislike oglops but not this cute big boy. Strange.

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This chapter can't end without one last boss battle.

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Boss battle 8, Giant Worm: This picure contains plenty information, it can cause poison, slow and, not in the image, mini (the worst of the bunch). A valuable Mythril Fork can be stolen in this fight. Deal enough damage and it'll flee. I had a hard time in my first playthrough against this monster because I wasn't properly equipped, so take care.

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The chapter ends with this group trapped by those evil clowns Zorn and Thorn.

You didn't try to peek at Garnet while she was changing at the gate? ...not that I would do such a thing. Also, nice touch with the digivolving theme.

I did, but the screenshots didn't do any justice to the situation and I omitted them.
 

Dark Schala

Eloquent Princess
Aaaaaah, I remember how lame steal rates in FFIX were. That's why some boss fights took foreeeeeverrrrr.

Edit: For FF4, I was going to fully demonstrate one way to defeat the Dark Elf and then I realized that 1) I only had one white mage who know a certain spell and he doubles as my black mage, 2) Fuck that I'm not waiting until his 65000 HP gets down to 1 this way, 3) Abe doesn't deserve to use Ethers, and 4) I'm playing Assassin's Creed Revelations before I type the entry up. :lol

I did indeed exploit the RNG for all of it. The Adamantite, the Tails, and Rydia's Summons. Not gonna lie, when I play the PSP version I'm just gonna cheat.

And I DO love FF5, I really do, but I have mental issues with that game. As a kid it was the hardest FF of all time for me, and Neo-Ex-Death was the hardest final boss ever. I'm saving Shinryu and Omega for when I get there in FF1, as I intend to pretty much make a humiliation conga for Shinryu after everything he did in Dissidia.
Are you really going to play TAY again right away? D:

Play something else. :lol

I'm on chapter 13 in final fantasy 13 and basically doing missions and grinding on pulse.

Damn does it take allot of cp when you are level 4.

At what hp level should I be at before taking on the final boss? I want to just finish this game and start playing ff 13 -2
Never ever use HP as a measure of strength for the final boss. You can max out the three primary roles for each character and then you'll be fine. Equip Cherub's Crowns (three) on your party leader. Trust me.

I wrote something up here for the
first form
of the boss: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34196124&postcount=793
 

Heropon

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With the other characters imprisoned, it's time to return to the other part of the continent. Using the multidimensional bag of sharing Freya and Quina equip some goodies obtained by the other party: Freya learns the AP increasing ability and Quina a powerful fork.

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Cleyra's Trunk

And behind the giant tornado there's a giant tree. This world has lots of interesting places, I love them!

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There's sand on my boots! Quina keeps learning skills like Matra Magic.

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It seems there are outclassed items all over the place thanks to the steal command.

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This bird is evil. It likes to eat people and cure itself. It isn't that difficult but when someone is trying to be careful and not kill it, it can be pretty exasperating. And at the second try Quina learns White Wind.

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Cleyra's Settlement

The inhabitants are very welcoming, and I thank them in return by stealing their treasures.

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And I use their monies to buy valuable weapons. Every according to the plan.

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Vivi uses his status as a necromancer to intimidate the citizens and Quina looks some delicious mushrooms, ñam.

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Monster alert! Antlion is attacking Puck, Vivi's former owner.

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Boss battle 9, Antlion: It likes to uses sandstorm and put all the characters' HP in the single digits, that combined with Troubled can wipe out the entire party at once, so cure everyone quick (potion to Quina and then White Wind to put the characters out of danger and Reis's Wind to fill the HP). Use ice for some massive damage!

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Thanks to our efforts, we save the king's son. That must be many ores (I'm updating to the new currency).

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Eternal Harvest

Freya is going to join a group of dancers to strengthen the sandstorm that protects the place. This dance reminds me of something, Lord of the Dance? Ooppsies, the harp has broken.

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Oh, fuck.

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The other characters aren't in a better situation. Steiner and Marcus are trapped in a cage and Garnet has been put to sleep by a strange spell.

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Zorn and Thorn extract Garnet's Eidolons (Summon Spirits in this language). Dun, dun, dun.
 
Just gonna save this post and edit it in a minute or so once my images get done uploading. I made the mistake of procrastinating my updates, so now I've got a backlog of images. :|

EDIT: Here we go!

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Beef's older brother Dycedarg is telling me and the others about how much ass we kicked, and rightfully so. Argath tries to butt in to get help for the marquis, but Dycedarg is already on it and he tells him to shutup, to boot.

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Before he can start telling us about his backstory, more family arrives!

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Beef's other brother also gives him praise, and we get to meet Delita's sister for the first time. She goes to the same school that Alma (Beef's sister) does, and lets Delita know that she's having fun. Before we get ready to go find the Corpse Brigade though, Alma speaks to Beef privately.

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The others give her tons of shit for being lower-class, and Alma is making sure that Teitra survives. Good job, Alma! We head to the next area, where we see the infamous (for FFT veterans, that is) Weigraf, cornering someone for information.

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Once Weigraf gets the info he needs, he spots us and decides that he better hit the road. Delita recognizes him, however, and spills the beans on who he is.

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Next post (since I'm running long here): who wins the battle?

...We do, of course.
 
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