Hecatonchires Custom
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You can get all the skills you want on a Persona when they're randomly selected ; it's gonna take FOREVER but it's still doable. I'd rather not waste an hour of accepting/cancelling shit just to get the skills I want.
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In honor of 25 years of Demon Summoning, GAF Plays: The (Shin) Megami Tensei series
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cj_iwakura
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There's a certain thrill lost, though.
I'm at Joker
in EP PSP. Ouch Time.
I'm at Joker
Noriko
Hecatonchires Custom
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Get HANGED MAN Kabanda and use Wall of Water. She's cake after that.
Edit: He's that pink floating thingie.
cj_iwakura
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Hmm, good idea. Never actually used him when I went back and decimated EP with Nocturne experience. We'll see how far Megido-Pixie and Ulala/Baofu Ice Storm get me.
SatelliteOfLove
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Just take it with you.
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I'm not the biggest fan of the hugs and kisses system, but I understand why they have hung onto it for as long as they have.
Hecatonchires Custom
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So the game isn't unbalanced when it lets you select skills, it's just less of a hassle.
SatelliteOfLove
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No, you just explained the reasons why it was implemented, not a functional retort to my assertation of that reason having balancing flaws.
Try it again.
cj_iwakura
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Holy crap if this is true:
I want another shot at If now.
I want another shot at If now.
I prefer doing it in an insane Cathedral of Shadow with that suspicious looking priest and weird dick-like pillars and on top of that ritual dark music.
Nothing beats that.
@cj_iwakura: I made some screenshots during my run in SMT if... PS1 version. If you're interested, PM-me.
cj_iwakura
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I agree, there's something for the ambient experience. I like how Soul Hackers does it. You can do simple stuff on the go, but if you want the intricate(like triple) fusions, you need the Goumaden.
And I've been playing the SFC version(I always start with the original), but I wouldn't mind seeing the PS1 version at some point.
SatelliteOfLove
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Holy crap if this is true:
I want another shot at If now.
Does it behave like a frolic in the park until you get to that boss and/or have another easy boss on a different ethical route like SJ or?
You have to choose a specific partner in the beginning of the game. His ultimate form has a instant death attack with 100% success rate. So if you don't equip your MC with the right gear, Game Over.
cj_iwakura
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From what I've played of If, I assume it's a frolic until that point. The dungeons are the hardest part, boss fights are minimal to non-existent, and usually a joke.
Finally found the time to update the summary again. I'm glad the thread is still doing so well.
I'm currently playing P4:Golden (about 15 hours in) which is so new that I didn't really want to post about it in here. I still plan to play the SNES version of SMT later on, if I find the time. So much else to do and there's also still a Lunar game to play.
I'm currently playing P4:Golden (about 15 hours in) which is so new that I didn't really want to post about it in here. I still plan to play the SNES version of SMT later on, if I find the time. So much else to do and there's also still a Lunar game to play.
I played both version and I pretty much prefer the PS1 version. It keeps all what made the SFC version great and makes it better.
Here we go: screenshots from my playthrough Shin Megami Tensei if... PS1 version.
It includes the end boss and his special form as well. Spoilers alert of course.
Picked up P2:EP after a long break and powered through the Sumaru TV dungeon.
Man, I forgot how the map-making quest + high encounter rate really make for a strenuous time. Doesn't help that Sumaru TV is a beefy dungeon (even if a highly fascinating one at that).
I think I'll get back to the screenshot play-by-play and get the Sumaru TV section posted tomorrow. There are just too many interesting things that happen in that dungeon.
Man, I forgot how the map-making quest + high encounter rate really make for a strenuous time. Doesn't help that Sumaru TV is a beefy dungeon (even if a highly fascinating one at that).
I think I'll get back to the screenshot play-by-play and get the Sumaru TV section posted tomorrow. There are just too many interesting things that happen in that dungeon.
Hecatonchires Custom
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Estoma is your best friend.
SatelliteOfLove
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Seeing those screenshots got me to realize how Swords and Sworcery's pixel art is very reminicient of If...'s.
So, some SMT1 interface questions I hope someone here knows the answer to.
1. The manual says this:
"FUSION SHORTCUTS:
If you hold down the L button when picking the first demon you want to use in
your fusion (second demon if you are doing a triple fusion) you can the Race of
the demon you fuse in the "Result" column of the Fusion screen. If you hold down
the R button when picking your demons, you can see the Name of the resulting
demon next to the Result Column"
But uh, this doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong? Is it an issue with the fan translation patch? Fusion has been a pretty major slog so someone please tell me there's a way to do this.
2. Can you sell multiple items at once to people in shops? Going one by one is not very fun and my inventory cant handle all the random shit I keep getting.
3. Any complete Demon FAQs out there? I'm normally not that OCD about this kinda stuff but if there's a demon with crazy awesome skills around my level I'm missing out on that would kinda suck.
I'm otherwise enjoying myself but some pointers from the vets would be very helpful thanks.
1. The manual says this:
"FUSION SHORTCUTS:
If you hold down the L button when picking the first demon you want to use in
your fusion (second demon if you are doing a triple fusion) you can the Race of
the demon you fuse in the "Result" column of the Fusion screen. If you hold down
the R button when picking your demons, you can see the Name of the resulting
demon next to the Result Column"
But uh, this doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong? Is it an issue with the fan translation patch? Fusion has been a pretty major slog so someone please tell me there's a way to do this.
2. Can you sell multiple items at once to people in shops? Going one by one is not very fun and my inventory cant handle all the random shit I keep getting.
3. Any complete Demon FAQs out there? I'm normally not that OCD about this kinda stuff but if there's a demon with crazy awesome skills around my level I'm missing out on that would kinda suck.
I'm otherwise enjoying myself but some pointers from the vets would be very helpful thanks.
No kidding.
Besides what I found fantastic in the PS1 version is that they kept the pixel art and improved the graphics at the same time.
cj_iwakura
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Great news!
There's a patch for If out in the wild that translates the gameplay(only).
Even worked with my existing save. Back into the trenches!
There's a patch for If out in the wild that translates the gameplay(only).
Even worked with my existing save. Back into the trenches!
cj_iwakura
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Not that I know of. I mostly winged it, it's a pretty easy game to break.
cj_iwakura
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I'm at Chizuru. Not looking forward to it.
(She's totally a Devil Summoner.)
(She's totally a Devil Summoner.)
After thinking that I was running out of Persona games, I thought about getting into other games of the main series or spin-offs and I finally got SMT3:Nocturne. I've just completed the first "dungeon" (the hospital) and I wanted to share some thoughts:
Wow, the MP drains really fast. Thank goodness there were healing rooms all over the place. I fear the next dungeons.
The Nagatama growth system seems interesting, but seeing that learning skills is limited to the level ups, I fear not choosing well between them. That reminds me that I have to choose the build of my hero, and I'm not sure if I should make him balanced, physically or magically powerful. And the other question: Should I increase the luck stat?
The story seems pretty interesting so far, I mean, the "crysis" happens before I have any idea of what is really happening. I think I was spoiled in other threads about the identity of the kid/wheelchair man:
. Damn if it's true!!!
I like this game so far, let's see how it goes.
Wow, the MP drains really fast. Thank goodness there were healing rooms all over the place. I fear the next dungeons.
The Nagatama growth system seems interesting, but seeing that learning skills is limited to the level ups, I fear not choosing well between them. That reminds me that I have to choose the build of my hero, and I'm not sure if I should make him balanced, physically or magically powerful. And the other question: Should I increase the luck stat?
The story seems pretty interesting so far, I mean, the "crysis" happens before I have any idea of what is really happening. I think I was spoiled in other threads about the identity of the kid/wheelchair man:
Louis Cyphre/Lucifer???
I like this game so far, let's see how it goes.
It's all thanks to that horrible 3DS drought that I had so much time to complete these games. EP still lasted me one month to complete, though.
Get Tornado and Fog Breath for the Demifiend. Thank me later.
The most important "spells" for demifiend are the buff/debuff ones and the HP using ones for damage.
I hope you're playing hard mode for full experience.
Enjoy!
SatelliteOfLove
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SatelliteOfLove
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It's when they're like "yo gimme Bead/Snuff Soul" early on is when negotiations fail on my end.
Just take it with you.
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Yeah, seriously. Any demon that asks for something like that can go eat a Mara.
Man, I thought I was being so slick grabbing this demon early through a random triple fusion...
Only to discover that SMT1's version of Mediarahan is in no way comparable to the one in every other Megaten. Freaking 60 HP, are you kidding me? Also Petra Eyes only goes after one enemy at a time. I guess what I'm saying is, Gorgon, I'm disappointed in you.
Also Ginza took foreeeeeever, yeesh, glad to be above ground.
Only to discover that SMT1's version of Mediarahan is in no way comparable to the one in every other Megaten. Freaking 60 HP, are you kidding me? Also Petra Eyes only goes after one enemy at a time. I guess what I'm saying is, Gorgon, I'm disappointed in you.
Also Ginza took foreeeeeever, yeesh, glad to be above ground.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Been playing SMT Nocturne for the past week. As much as I can between school, work, and chores...
Got stuck on Matador back when I first tried out the game a couple years ago.
This time around I'm more experienced with SMT. Beat Persona 4 and I've tried a couple others such as King Abaddon and Strange Journey.
I came prepared with a Force absorbing demon. I've always read on forums about how "Oh Matador is easy just get Zan demons and be at least Level 10" so I knew what was coming. Was able to get him to his second phase of attacks which I had never done before. And thats when he proceeded to beat the everliving shit out of my party.
Don't spoil the strategy for me, I'll figure it out eventually. I'm mainly gonna focus on getting one more party member with Sukunda and one more with Media. Maybe another Force absorbing or at least resistant demon too. And I know they sell a Force Magatama in the sewers so I might try that since I have lots of monies. Would be easier than fusing and getting certain Skills at least.
Got stuck on Matador back when I first tried out the game a couple years ago.
This time around I'm more experienced with SMT. Beat Persona 4 and I've tried a couple others such as King Abaddon and Strange Journey.
I came prepared with a Force absorbing demon. I've always read on forums about how "Oh Matador is easy just get Zan demons and be at least Level 10" so I knew what was coming. Was able to get him to his second phase of attacks which I had never done before. And thats when he proceeded to beat the everliving shit out of my party.
Don't spoil the strategy for me, I'll figure it out eventually. I'm mainly gonna focus on getting one more party member with Sukunda and one more with Media. Maybe another Force absorbing or at least resistant demon too. And I know they sell a Force Magatama in the sewers so I might try that since I have lots of monies. Would be easier than fusing and getting certain Skills at least.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Fight fight fight fight!
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Beat him after like 3 hours of grinding and fusing! I'm used to much easier JRPGs so all this is new to me.
Wasn't terribly hard, though (playing on Normal). The Force Magatama was tempting but I used the Physical one instead (not the Phsyical one you start with, the better one that has Skills like Heat Wave and Focus). My Snake Nozuchi died too so I switched him out midfight for good 'ole Pixie (now High Pixie) from the Hospital.
Also, thank god for the Alchemy system; I have like 7 Bead Chains, a couple Soma Droplets, Chakra Pots, and even a couple Balm of Risings. Never put any resources into Elements or Mitamis since I don't completely understand them.
Wasn't terribly hard, though (playing on Normal). The Force Magatama was tempting but I used the Physical one instead (not the Phsyical one you start with, the better one that has Skills like Heat Wave and Focus). My Snake Nozuchi died too so I switched him out midfight for good 'ole Pixie (now High Pixie) from the Hospital.
Also, thank god for the Alchemy system; I have like 7 Bead Chains, a couple Soma Droplets, Chakra Pots, and even a couple Balm of Risings. Never put any resources into Elements or Mitamis since I don't completely understand them.
Just take it with you.
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Beat him after like 3 hours of grinding and fusing! I'm used to much easier JRPGs so all this is new to me.
Wasn't terribly hard, though (playing on Normal). The Force Magatama was tempting but I used the Physical one instead (not the Phsyical one you start with, the better one that has Skills like Heat Wave and Focus). My Snake Nozuchi died too so I switched him out midfight for good 'ole Pixie (now High Pixie) from the Hospital.
Also, thank god for the Alchemy system; I have like 7 Bead Chains, a couple Soma Droplets, Chakra Pots, and even a couple Balm of Risings. Never put any resources into Elements or Mitamis since I don't completely understand them.
Elements are very useful since they allow you to rank up or rank down a demon (depending on the race). They make getting specific demons much easier.
I always wondered whatever the people on the other side were still humans, since the Oracle came true they should have evolve into Idealians, supposedly.
Do you have a link to that? I wanted to add it to the OP.
that's the boss where you realize that you can fuse demons to get better ones! The game isn't hard, you just need to grind sometime like you should in every jrpg.Beat him after like 3 hours of grinding and fusing! I'm used to much easier JRPGs so all this is new to me.
Wasn't terribly hard, though (playing on Normal). The Force Magatama was tempting but I used the Physical one instead (not the Phsyical one you start with, the better one that has Skills like Heat Wave and Focus). My Snake Nozuchi died too so I switched him out midfight for good 'ole Pixie (now High Pixie) from the Hospital.
Also, thank god for the Alchemy system; I have like 7 Bead Chains, a couple Soma Droplets, Chakra Pots, and even a couple Balm of Risings. Never put any resources into Elements or Mitamis since I don't completely understand them.
cj_iwakura
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No, but I can upload it someplace if you have a suggestion.
I don't know much about file hosting services, but Tinyupload.com seems nice enough. At least it doesn't try to trick people into downloading stuff they don't want.
cj_iwakura
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So listening to the Raidou 2 OST reminded me I should finish the optional boss before Soul Hackers comes out.
Do I have to finish all the quests, or can I just fight him straightaway? I got the Chaos end last time, so I should be good there.
Do I have to finish all the quests, or can I just fight him straightaway? I got the Chaos end last time, so I should be good there.