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PAL Charts - Week 46, 2007 (Assassins > CoD 4 > Galaxy)
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Agent Icebeezy
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It's more damning that a game in it's second week (CoD4) outsold Mario than a game in it's first week (AC) doing it.
bubble breaker
Member
when did AC, CoD4 and SMG come out?
It can be an explanation...
It can be an explanation...
Super Mario Galaxy is going to sell a ton and CoD 4 is going too, so I wouldn´t worry too much about them. For me, Assasin's Creed is the new thing, something different and very attractive to me. I personally love it but I understand and share some of the main criticism, however I feel it does more for videogames than Super Mario Galaxy and CoD 4.
You could say that Super Mario Galaxy is unique as well, but is too unique, is not going to create school. It´s a perfect platformer full of clever designs and charm, but is not going to influence anyone to do things based on it because you can´t export the polish and the talent. And CoD 4 is another shooter with an ok campaign and a MMO as multiplayer, apart of superb technical talent, polish... which is neat but not revolutionary.
Assasin´s Creed is a first step of something I have been waiting for a lot of time in videogames, so I want it suceeds and I think it deserves it for the bravery of the team (not its producer, I don´t share the fascination for Ms Raymond).
I feel bad for Ratchet, I hope sales goes up.
You could say that Super Mario Galaxy is unique as well, but is too unique, is not going to create school. It´s a perfect platformer full of clever designs and charm, but is not going to influence anyone to do things based on it because you can´t export the polish and the talent. And CoD 4 is another shooter with an ok campaign and a MMO as multiplayer, apart of superb technical talent, polish... which is neat but not revolutionary.
Assasin´s Creed is a first step of something I have been waiting for a lot of time in videogames, so I want it suceeds and I think it deserves it for the bravery of the team (not its producer, I don´t share the fascination for Ms Raymond).
I feel bad for Ratchet, I hope sales goes up.
Graphics Horse
Member
Agent Icebeezy said:
And two other games also outsold it in the combined charts.
http://www.charttrack.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
R&C Is off the bottom of the old stlye combined charts also.
Kamakazie!
Member
ksamedi said:
It hasn't bombed but not being no. 1 is poor for what is one of the best games of all time and is a flagship first party title which stars the platforms most recognised mascot!
I know there has been shortages in some places in the UK, but when i got it on Thursday night at my local GAME they had absolutely loads.
Hopefully it will just keep on selling. Every Wii owner should have a copy of this game.
Graphics Horse
Member
spwolf said:
edit: I thougt that said published!
I was kind of dreading this when I went in and got the game on Friday... Game still had so many copies left and it just didn't feel like it had as much attention as you would expect... I mean the game was at the front of the store, but, I didn't see anyone else buying it. :-/ After playing it I'm actually really dissapointed, the two games I've played this year and really thought "this deserves to have amazing sales" are Portal and SMG. Simply amazing games....
Oh well I expect it to keep on selling, but, if it doesn't fair better then in Japan I'll be really quite upset... :-/
Oh well I expect it to keep on selling, but, if it doesn't fair better then in Japan I'll be really quite upset... :-/
Kamakazie! said:
Well it will probably have a very high attach rate. More than Zelda I think. But not being number one doesn't really mean anything, we also don't get to see the numbers. It could have sold a couple of thousand less than Assasins and Cod 4 which sells on 2 platforms. Also, Cod 4 deserves every single one of those sales, its a great multiplayer game.
Graphics Horse
Member
ksamedi said:
It sold less than the 360 versions of AC and Cod 4. Games are listed for individual formats now.
So the difference between total AC sales and SMG sales is greater than the total AC PS3 sales.
not that I care about these things.
frankie_baby
Member
surprised mario's not got number 1, however highest wii debut should mean its sold over 70,000 (what i think zelda sold week 1, sorry if i'm wrong) have there been stock problems though as i see amazon have been sold out however i walked into game today and bought whats the situation been elsewhere? also wii games dont seem as front loaded as games on other systems and often they do better 2nd week than 1st (though it has no chance at number 1 next week with guitar hero) so i'd expect it to carry on selling well over the next few months and years (especially as nintendo advertise their games for months on end)
Kurosaki Ichigo
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http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7995&Itemid=2
Spain:
01. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS2)
02. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PS2)
03. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3)
04. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (360)
05. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 (PS2)
06. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS3)
07. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PS3)
08. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PC)
09. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PSP)
10. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)
Spain:
01. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS2)
02. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PS2)
03. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3)
04. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (360)
05. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 (PS2)
06. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS3)
07. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PS3)
08. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PC)
09. WWE Smackdown! vs. RAW 2008 (PSP)
10. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)
Souldriver
Member
We're starting to see some Sony domination again in Spain. Seems like the PS3 is taking of there.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
ksamedi said:
Didn't Zelda sell almost 1:1 (or at least 1:2) with the Wii at launch last year? If SMG had anywhere close to that kind of attach rate it would far and away be the best selling game of the year.
As someone noted above, you were mistaken about the relative sales to COD4 and AC. The 360 versions of these games both outsold SMG, the overall sales are likely much higher. While this is not impossible, since PC + 360 + PS3 overall userbase is > Wii, it is somewhat unexpected that a single platform with a smaller userbase could have 2 games post bigger openings than Nintendo's #1 Wii opening ever, 4 in the past year if you consider that Gears and Halo were larger as well.
Its still to early to jump to conclusions, but this seems like a similar situation to Japan where expectations for SMG are way too high when they should've been more grounded after the success of Super Mario Sunshine.
It will still sell very well, and a number 3 debut is nothing to sneeze at, but it does seem like we've seen the peak of what Mario can sell as a 3D platformer.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I think a lot of people may have missed that Galaxy is Wii's fastest selling Wii entry to date (ahead of Zelda).
That is not only good for Mario, but it puts the success of CoD4 and Assassins Creed into an even more positive light.
Mario is sure to have great word of mouth, it certainly does here and in the mainstream press. I'm sure it will continue to sell at whatever pace throughout Wii's lifetime, and no doubt beat SMS. If Wii wasn't practically guaranteed to be sold out through Christmas, I'd of said Mario retailer bundles would be a dead cert.
That is not only good for Mario, but it puts the success of CoD4 and Assassins Creed into an even more positive light.
Mario is sure to have great word of mouth, it certainly does here and in the mainstream press. I'm sure it will continue to sell at whatever pace throughout Wii's lifetime, and no doubt beat SMS. If Wii wasn't practically guaranteed to be sold out through Christmas, I'd of said Mario retailer bundles would be a dead cert.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Can we make a educated guess on how many units AC sold on the 360 and PS3 based on Halo and GEARS first week sales?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
mckmas8808 said:
Halo 3 sold roughly 460k its first week in the UK, based on Chart Track's comment on it selling to 1/3 of the userbase. Every other game mentioned in this thread (and every game in UK history other than one of the GTA games) is less than that. Not really that informative.
So for first week:
Halo 3 @ 460k > COD4 360 > Assassin's Creed 360 > Gears of War >= Super Mario Galaxy > Twilight Princess
is a rough guesstimate of the situation since Gears' first week was > TP's last year afaik.
Gears was the #3 fastest selling game of 2006 overall (behind FIFA and Pro Evo), though it was heavily outsold by NFS Carbon in the weeks after launch:
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=389&s=1111
Zelda sold to 2/3 of Wii owners at launch:
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/?i=395&s=1111
mr_bishiuk
Banned
I am simply gobsmaked at the buying power of 360 owners!
I was certain everyone would be too busy playing COD4 to buy any other game and could only see SMg being #1 in all honesty.
I was certain everyone would be too busy playing COD4 to buy any other game and could only see SMg being #1 in all honesty.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Holy shit at poor R&C sales. How could something so good could bomb so hard. I hope the full month sales in US with all the advertising + console price drop will make it sell at least decently.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Marconelly said:
I think Sony needs to bundle this game with the PS3. And I also believe they started advertising this game too late.
mr_bishiuk
Banned
Lightning said:
With the money put into advertising R&C and its demo, i'm sure it would have done much better on 360 but unfortunately we'll never know. 360 owners seem to be more aware of what games are the ones to get and a demo on XBL would have meant 300k uk sales easy!
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
And Germany:
01. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PC)
02. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (360)
03. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3)
04. Hellgate: London (PC)
05. WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 (PS2)
06. Fussball Manager 2008 (PC)
07. Singstar: Apres Ski (PS2)
08. Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
09. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)
10. SingStar: Rock Ballads (PS2)
I have yet to see a Galaxy commercial (Netherlands). Where as I've seen a lot of Zelda: PH commercials for instance lately. Is Nintendo advertising the game in the UK or relying on brand / word of mouth?
Edit: Have seen multiple Ratchet commercials though, very nice ads at that. Shame it didn't seem to help much.
Edit: Have seen multiple Ratchet commercials though, very nice ads at that. Shame it didn't seem to help much.
OMG I'm laughing so much at people trying to defend Mario's honor.
Seriously, all of you by now should know how Mario sales work. Just because it's Mario doesn't mean that it has to be number one and thats good that AC sold better in that time frame. Mario will have good sales but more as in the long run, learn to chill.
Seriously, all of you by now should know how Mario sales work. Just because it's Mario doesn't mean that it has to be number one and thats good that AC sold better in that time frame. Mario will have good sales but more as in the long run, learn to chill.
slaughterking
Member
Don't know about UK, but in Germany Mario Galaxy is the first major Wii release with a proper advertisment push since Super Paper Mario. Even though they screwed up on the initial shipment and re-stocking, they got at least that right.Neomoto said:
BishopLamont
Banned
Zozz said:
Who's "defending Mario's honor"? The only things people have been saying is it done good, which it did. You're making a big deal out of nothing, you need to chill.
The Innocent X
Banned
UK has had lots of 5 second intro and outro adverts for SMG. Don`t really explain much about the game though
Phife Dawg
Member
Ratchet .
. Nintendo needs to get their act together with first party software. First MP3 and now SMG - it's DVDs ffs. And it'll only hurt sales.
.It's the same for me as with MP3 (no store around has it and they don't know exactly when they'll get new stock). I could probably find it if I make another drive around but got no time for that. Mario will have to waitOxx said:
. Nintendo needs to get their act together with first party software. First MP3 and now SMG - it's DVDs ffs. And it'll only hurt sales.72 is the RRP for those games (Lair, R&C, HS). So if it's 70 at Amazon you're actually saving 2 of the RRP.El-Suave said:
Kurosagi left that out for a reason. We'll get the official german charts later this week.Superfrog said:
frankthurk
Member
duk said:
No, that's New Zealand.
Frankfurter
Member
Superfrog said:
I know it has been said thousand times, but again: these next-gen.biz charts are either old or wrong (or both).