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Lovely Salsa
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level_e11even
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Used to be.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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PREMIUMM SHIT YO
I can understand Kinect if it had a killer app or game attached to it. Something that made people go wow.
As it stands, there isn't anything to get hyped about. If MS truly wanted people to get into it, they should've worked a little harder to ensure that kind of reaction from the public.
As it stands, there isn't anything to get hyped about. If MS truly wanted people to get into it, they should've worked a little harder to ensure that kind of reaction from the public.
yeh....weaker GPU etc compared to PS4.... probably could have gone 349.99 without it.
it's a good thing! Premium means good right?
Premium apps means they can charge a premium price. I wish I was joking, but that's exactly what they said before launch when someone asked if they'd continue to charge for apps on their new console.
I'm sure glad every PS3 controller came with Sixaxis functionality. We got to see such innovative and interesting features across the PS3 game library thanks to it being in every controller and developers not having to worry about fragmentation of the user base. It really shook things up and made for unique experiences on the PS3.
People are just convincing themselves with this silly argument at this point.
So you honestly think things would have been exactly the same if sixasis wasn't in every controller from the start?
It more than likely would have been even worse.
So no it's not a silly argument. Kinect could fizzle out in terms of support next gen but it's still in a better position due to it being packed into every console.
No, he's right. Games like Dance Dance Revolution and fitness games like Nike Fitness will sell a whole lot more on the XO than the PS4 since the XO is not a fragmented market like the PS4.
wapplew
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I can see Kinect work well, as non gaming tech.
MS should make a free App call Xbox movie/animation maker or something.
Let you make your own animation/movie with you do the mo cap, voice over ,edit and upload to all major social media.
You can make 5 minutes sitcom, 90 minutes movie or even 5 second gif for gaf with it.
Slap some famous character model from games or Disney or comic for few dollar,
Might be another minecraft like success.
Or let you do your own winning pose/taunt move while you score on Fifa or COD,
great little feature I can see a lot may like. All that little touches add some value to Kinect.
MS should make a free App call Xbox movie/animation maker or something.
Let you make your own animation/movie with you do the mo cap, voice over ,edit and upload to all major social media.
You can make 5 minutes sitcom, 90 minutes movie or even 5 second gif for gaf with it.
Slap some famous character model from games or Disney or comic for few dollar,
Might be another minecraft like success.
Or let you do your own winning pose/taunt move while you score on Fifa or COD,
great little feature I can see a lot may like. All that little touches add some value to Kinect.
Disregarding Kinect, are you implying that a weaker system justifies a cheaper cost? By your logic, a gaming PC should cost in excess of $1500 because the "GPU etc" is stronger when compared to the Xbox One and PS4.
Duxxy3
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Many gaming PC's do...
It may be weaker but because of the ESRAM it's also larger, which means it costs more to make. Though the GDDR5 on the PS4 will also be contributing to the PS4 price quite a lot.
Stupid descision to force it upon people in the first place, Only this past week MS are bragging about selling 80m consoles and yet of that usebase only 24m bought Kinect.
Surely that should tell them that the vast majority of thier customers almost 3/4 quarters coudnt give a toss about Kinect.
Surely that should tell them that the vast majority of thier customers almost 3/4 quarters coudnt give a toss about Kinect.
That's new information. Not misinformation. Their post should contain the word "anymore".
Alx
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Or rather "after all". You can't say their console ever required kinect or an online connection since they cancelled it before it was released.
Reluctant-Hero
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The real smart move would have been for them to have clear and concise messaging on XBO from the start. But no, they dropped the ball and they know it. The fact that they have to make ads like this is sad and I have no doubt that this "facts" website is driven from them hearing consumer feedback directly from their retail partners (GameStop, Walmart, etc.).
Katana_Strikes
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I've just woke up and read the OPs fact again.
MS should be embarrassed that they made that.
How can a company sell a product at over a hundred dollars more premium and tell its consumers that they can just unplug it/turn it off if they basically don't want it.
That's a complete negative and not at all up selling your product. That's saying "please buy our product but don't use it". How is that nothing more than bad messaging and advertising. It's practically saying don't buy it therefore. I can't express just how embarrassingly bad this is.
Smh
Why hasn't MS got a selling point for Kinect? Because that should be there instead of this message. Make people want it, not have to unplug it. I've never seen such bad messaging.
MS should be embarrassed that they made that.
How can a company sell a product at over a hundred dollars more premium and tell its consumers that they can just unplug it/turn it off if they basically don't want it.
That's a complete negative and not at all up selling your product. That's saying "please buy our product but don't use it". How is that nothing more than bad messaging and advertising. It's practically saying don't buy it therefore. I can't express just how embarrassingly bad this is.
Smh
Why hasn't MS got a selling point for Kinect? Because that should be there instead of this message. Make people want it, not have to unplug it. I've never seen such bad messaging.
Quadraphonic
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Translation:
I want games for the Kinect, so I want Microsoft to force you to buy one, even if you don't want one or intend to buy one, to trick developers into think it has a userbase, when it's quite clear it doesn't, won't and never will.
Alx
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Because too many people think they still need to keep it plugged in at all times.
You can blame MS for originally planning the system that made consumers (rightfully) think that in the first place, but now that they changed everything you can't blame them for informing everybody about it.
Caayn
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I didn't know that Microsoft is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy the Xbox One. It's a complete package, meaning the Kinect is included. If you want to customize you go to Burger King and customize your burger there.
semiconscious
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simplythebest
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Is it? Is it really?
There's no doubt that people still don't know about the XB1 changes. There's still misinformation being spread.
Agreed.
Katana_Strikes
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But by informing people this way, they are telling them there's no need to buy it however, that really is bad messaging. People will only now be asking themselves "why am I having to buy it then?". Why would people see this and go "oh I don't need it, lets pop down to BestBuy to pre-order right this moment".
The messaging should be why people should buy it and why they should have it plugged in/turned on. Not the opposite.
I dont hate them for trying to set things right, i really don't. In fact, I'm even buying one sometime near feb or april.
But i cant help but feel that this thing could be some kind of trojan horse. If they address those concerns of mine, ill be fine. Just something I've been keeping in the back of my mind.
But i cant help but feel that this thing could be some kind of trojan horse. If they address those concerns of mine, ill be fine. Just something I've been keeping in the back of my mind.
See, this is one of those posters that just sound like PR, like that other guy who was banned. Apparently everything in here is hate. Looking through his post history;
Oh that amazing packed in Kinect.
Experience better on XBL and it will be superior to PSN again.
360 version of Crysis is the best looking console game.
To a comment about value finally being added to XBL with the games, which is true for quite a few parts of the world.
Has a Surface RT, conveniently.
Bit of Sony acidity
Oh no, people are mean to Ryse, why aren't they mean to <Playstation 3 games>
( Locked thread ) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86415376&postcount=3965 - Again a acidity comment towards Sony.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=86284435&postcount=195 - lol flashbacks to delaystation 3.
Sony can't do anything right with this guy.
And some sarcasm because he wants to tell us what Microsoft is doing rocks.
Oh he owns another Microsoft related device and someone said something bad about it, heh.
Windows RT getting a bit of the love as well.
Another PS3 mention with that acidity
He sees tremendous potential for a Windows phone.
Turns something into the UI being inconsistent.
Better defend RT again.
Let me randomly turn this into Sony-something.
Can't even concede Sony's marketing is more effective than what Microsoft are doing.
Xbox Live is very smooth. It's amaze, such less lag.
I swear, it's just page up and page down of Sony quips, defending Microsoft, talking about 300 different Microsoft product he surprisingly had his hands on, extremely active in most Xbox One game related threads, Forza and Ryse with lots of gushing. Sorry it just annoys me when you see these comments from people you suspect are a bit too involved with Microsoft or any of the companies they are defending for that matter. Look through his post history and it's nothing but this, his first post was in the Windows Phone thread.
Hang on, in the get the facts they say that Xbox one has "The most award-winning exclusive games at E3."
Didn't people take titanfall out of that number (because, you know, its not exclusive it being out on PC as well) which turned this claim into a bit of a stretching statement?
Stretching statement is a polite way of saying "bollocks" btw
Didn't people take titanfall out of that number (because, you know, its not exclusive it being out on PC as well) which turned this claim into a bit of a stretching statement?
Stretching statement is a polite way of saying "bollocks" btw
Caayn
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Instead of making snarky sarcastic comments. You'd do better to explain to him what you think is wrong with his comments. Instead of posting things like "Better defend RT again." which don't exactly help at the moment.
The first one made it pretty obvious. He is accusing the guy of being a shill.
Dr D Wayne Love
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That's more than bought Halo 4, should they stop making Halo games?
Caayn
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Ah, you're right. My bad. Still think that proper counters/replies would have been better.
They don't include Halo in the box and charge an additional $100+ for it.
What do you mean by that? It's a snippet of his post history, want me to reply to every one of them in ancient and locked threads?
clay_ghost
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Ms really screwed up xbone err?
Caayn
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If you're going to take the trouble to re-post part of his post-history and make comments on each of those posts, yes.
That makes no sense. I'm trying to point out his extremely strong fondness of everything Microsoft. He has access to a heap of Microsoft hardware. He gushes over what Microsoft are doing at every turn or he defends it. He always has a Sony quip up his sleeve.
Point being, I'm trying to paint him as a shill.
Why the fuck would I reply to his shit from old and locked threads? Derp.
Phat Michael
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Man that was a lot of effort for posts which really dont come off as overly pro MS. I read through all of them and they dont seem too bad at all - he likes Windows Phone and has a Surface? so what?
I have a PS3, X360, a vita and a PC. I want an xbox One and have ordered a PS4 and just came back from buying beyond two souls. - where do my allegiances lie? i think too much is being looked in to someones post history.
if you look for something with an agenda - you can spin it to make anything you want it to be.
I have a PS3, X360, a vita and a PC. I want an xbox One and have ordered a PS4 and just came back from buying beyond two souls. - where do my allegiances lie? i think too much is being looked in to someones post history.
if you look for something with an agenda - you can spin it to make anything you want it to be.
Took less than 10 minutes because 99% of his posts are like that. Go look.
Caayn
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Then why did you reply(as sarcastic as those may have been) at all to those old posts? Those quotes alone, without comments on every single quote, already gets your point across.
Look I'm not defending anyone here, just trying to understand.
Because those are not replies to his posts, it was to point out the posts nature in this thread to the people reading my post
Very common to actually explain yourself and that I did with every quote and why I used it. See it as live commentary.- Status