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Media Create Sales 11/26 - 12/2 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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JoshuaJSlone said:
It seems the pirating process does not get all the code, or maybe there are some additional protection from DS that prevent networking from working right. That pirated copies can play single player game, but not local multiplayer (like the Mario Hoops 3 on 3). Not sure about the internet multiplayer.
To CVX,
R4 can play local multiplayer (like Dragon Quest Heroes : Rocket). Maybe your classmate need to upgrade the R4 OS. The latest version (english) that my friend have is V1.11 (or something like that).
Last I checked, R4 cost around 40$ bundled with a 1GB SD micro. That's a heck of a lot cheaper then GBA rewritable carts used to be in 2003 (70-80$ for tiny 32MB carts).
Non-rewritable pirate carts are a different issue true,(and I know those were huge bussiness in Asia for GBs), but when rewriteable options are this cheap, noone cares.
Heck such alternatives don't even exist on PSP and it does nothing to keep off the piracy.
Lobster said:
What is the cause of the shame :
- playing "girly" game, even though you are "manly" man ?
- playing multiplayer games against other girls / boys ?
- playing it on R4 ?
- playing and enjoying a "non-game" (I don't think it is a non-game, but maybe you thought so) ?
Fafalada said:
I was talking about the non-rewritable pirate carts.
To play the devils advocate here, do you know for a fact it's used for bad things?Lobster said:
R4 has lots of very nice perfectly legal uses - from homebrew and added media functionality that is not present on stock DS, to offering convenience of not lugging all your game carts around, but installing them on a stick instead.
In fact, aside for reduced loadtimes, it offers very similar benefits as custom FW on the other portable, so there's nothing inherently bad about owning one.
I don't fucking care. The Japanese public just doesn't know it wants this game because of Nintendo's shoddy marketing. I'm almost starting to think they're looking for excuses not to make awesome games like this anymore. I don't seriously believe it yet, but the signs are all pointing in that direction.PantherLotus said:
If people care for anecdotal evidence (and from what I gather, people at least care to read it), then I can say that this couple at Ginza Bic Camera had a kid holding the SMG case. Then the kid put it back and the parents took MP8 instead (they had Wii Sports and Wii Play in their hands already).
T'was a sad moment.
T'was a sad moment.
cvxfreak said:If people care for anecdotal evidence (and from what I gather, people at least care to read it), then I can say that this couple at Ginza Bic Camera had a kid holding the SMG case. Then the kid put it back and the parents took MP8 instead (they had Wii Sports and Wii Play in their hands already).
T'was a sad moment.
Now he shall never experience the awesomeness that is the Toad Brigade =(
You should have forced it on him.cvxfreak said:If people care for anecdotal evidence (and from what I gather, people at least care to read it), then I can say that this couple at Ginza Bic Camera had a kid holding the SMG case. Then the kid put it back and the parents took MP8 instead (they had Wii Sports and Wii Play in their hands already).
T'was a sad moment.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Pureauthor said:
Don't worry, if they are really cheap they will just give you a memory card of games they downloaded
:/
kallisto76
Member
no famitsu numbers this week?
The Innocent X
Banned
All of the mainstream worldwide have questionable taste, but then we would say that, because our tastes are different.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
'Tales of' breaks 10m units sold worldwide
· As of December 11, 2007.
· Includes regular and budget releases plus worldwide numbers if released
· Date is the japanese one
· 87% sales come from Japan, 8% NA, 3% Europe, 2% Asia
SFC / Tales of Phantasia / 1995/12/15 / 212,000
PSX / Tales of Destiny / 1997/12/23 / 1,139,000
PSX / Tales of Phantasia / 1998/12/23 / 769,000
GBC / Tales of Phantasia Narikiri Dungeon / 2000/11/10 / 136,000
PSX / Tales of Eternia / 2000/11/30 / 873,000
PSX / Tales of Fandom Vol.1 (Cless ver. / Mint ver.) / 2002/1/31 / 94,000
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 / 2002/10/25 / 184,000
PS2 / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2002/11/28 / 977,000
GBA / Tales of the World ～Summoner's Lineage～ / 2003/3/7 / 100,000
GBA / Tales of Phantasia / 2003/8/1 / 314,000
NGC / Tales of Symphonia / 2003/8/29 / 953,000
PS2 / Tales of Symphonia / 2004/9/22 / 486,000
PS2 / Tales of Rebirth / 2004/12/16 / 605,000
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 / 2005/1/6 / 123,000
PSP / Tales of Eternia / 2005/3/3 / 398,000
PS2 / Tales of Legendia / 2005/8/25 / 397,000
PS2 / Tales of the Abyss / 2005/12/15 / 734,000
PSP / Tales of Phantasia /Full Voice Edition/ / 2006/9/7 / 136,000
NDS / Tales of the Tempest / 2006/10/26 / 301,000
PS2 / Tales of Destiny / 2006/11/30 / 395,000
PSP / Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology / 2006/12/21 / 305,000
PSP / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2007/2/15 / 129,000
PS2 / Tales of Fandom Vol.2 (Luke ver. / Tear ver.) / 2007/6/28 / 95,000
NDS / Tales of Innocence / 2007/12/6 / 160,000
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Pity that only TOD has broken 1mln with a single release. It's not my fav Tales game to be honest.
I thought Symphonia GC had broken 1m actually? Between the US+Japan alone it should be over 800k... maybe Namco's not counting EU sales (since they didn't publish it there?)? I thought I remembered it breaking 200k in EU fairly early on too?
I wish those Tales sales had regional breakdowns...
I wish those Tales sales had regional breakdowns...
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Many of the numbers are amazingly different to those from Famitsu. See:
SFC / Tales of Phantasia / 1995/12/15 / 212,000
Famitsu: 249k
PSX / Tales of Destiny / 1997/12/23 / 1,139,000
Famitsu: 829k (66k budget)
NA: ???
PSX / Tales of Phantasia / 1998/12/23 / 769,000
Famitsu: 550k (82k budget)
GBC / Tales of Phantasia Narikiri Dungeon / 2000/11/10 / 136,000
Famitsu: 155k
PSX / Tales of Eternia / 2000/11/30 / 873,000
Famitsu: 670k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
PSX / Tales of Fandom Vol.1 (Cless ver. / Mint ver.) / 2002/1/31 / 94,000
Famitsu: 89k
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 / 2002/10/25 / 184,000
Famitsu: 186k
PS2 / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2002/11/28 / 977,000
Famitsu: 763k (lacking 2 budget releases numbers)
GBA / Tales of the World ～Summoner's Lineage～ / 2003/3/7 / 100,000
Famitsu: 52k
GBA / Tales of Phantasia / 2003/8/1 / 314,000
Famitsu: 135k
NA: ???
Europe: ???
NGC / Tales of Symphonia / 2003/8/29 / 953,000
Famitsu: 323k
NA: ???
Europe: ???
PS2 / Tales of Symphonia / 2004/9/22 / 486,000
Famitsu: 394k (48k budget release)
PS2 / Tales of Rebirth / 2004/12/16 / 605,000
Famitsu: 596k
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 / 2005/1/6 / 123,000
Famitsu: 113k
PSP / Tales of Eternia / 2005/3/3 / 398,000
Famitsu: 194k (55k budget release)
Europe: ???
PS2 / Tales of Legendia / 2005/8/25 / 397,000
Famitsu: 343k
NA: ???
PS2 / Tales of the Abyss / 2005/12/15 / 734,000
Famitsu: 556k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
PSP / Tales of Phantasia /Full Voice Edition/ / 2006/9/7 / 136,000
Famitsu: 111k (lack budget release number)
NDS / Tales of the Tempest / 2006/10/26 / 301,000
Famitsu: 196k
PS2 / Tales of Destiny / 2006/11/30 / 395,000
Famitsu: 367k
PSP / Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology / 2006/12/21 / 305,000
Famitsu: 214k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
Europe: ???
PSP / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2007/2/15 / 129,000
Famitsu: 114k
PS2 / Tales of Fandom Vol.2 (Luke ver. / Tear ver.) / 2007/6/28 / 95,000
NDS / Tales of Innocence / 2007/12/6 / 160,000
Not updated data for these two.
SFC / Tales of Phantasia / 1995/12/15 / 212,000
Famitsu: 249k
PSX / Tales of Destiny / 1997/12/23 / 1,139,000
Famitsu: 829k (66k budget)
NA: ???
PSX / Tales of Phantasia / 1998/12/23 / 769,000
Famitsu: 550k (82k budget)
GBC / Tales of Phantasia Narikiri Dungeon / 2000/11/10 / 136,000
Famitsu: 155k
PSX / Tales of Eternia / 2000/11/30 / 873,000
Famitsu: 670k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
PSX / Tales of Fandom Vol.1 (Cless ver. / Mint ver.) / 2002/1/31 / 94,000
Famitsu: 89k
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 / 2002/10/25 / 184,000
Famitsu: 186k
PS2 / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2002/11/28 / 977,000
Famitsu: 763k (lacking 2 budget releases numbers)
GBA / Tales of the World ～Summoner's Lineage～ / 2003/3/7 / 100,000
Famitsu: 52k
GBA / Tales of Phantasia / 2003/8/1 / 314,000
Famitsu: 135k
NA: ???
Europe: ???
NGC / Tales of Symphonia / 2003/8/29 / 953,000
Famitsu: 323k
NA: ???
Europe: ???
PS2 / Tales of Symphonia / 2004/9/22 / 486,000
Famitsu: 394k (48k budget release)
PS2 / Tales of Rebirth / 2004/12/16 / 605,000
Famitsu: 596k
GBA / Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 / 2005/1/6 / 123,000
Famitsu: 113k
PSP / Tales of Eternia / 2005/3/3 / 398,000
Famitsu: 194k (55k budget release)
Europe: ???
PS2 / Tales of Legendia / 2005/8/25 / 397,000
Famitsu: 343k
NA: ???
PS2 / Tales of the Abyss / 2005/12/15 / 734,000
Famitsu: 556k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
PSP / Tales of Phantasia /Full Voice Edition/ / 2006/9/7 / 136,000
Famitsu: 111k (lack budget release number)
NDS / Tales of the Tempest / 2006/10/26 / 301,000
Famitsu: 196k
PS2 / Tales of Destiny / 2006/11/30 / 395,000
Famitsu: 367k
PSP / Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology / 2006/12/21 / 305,000
Famitsu: 214k (lack budget release number)
NA: ???
Europe: ???
PSP / Tales of Destiny 2 / 2007/2/15 / 129,000
Famitsu: 114k
PS2 / Tales of Fandom Vol.2 (Luke ver. / Tear ver.) / 2007/6/28 / 95,000
NDS / Tales of Innocence / 2007/12/6 / 160,000
Not updated data for these two.
They are including it, see worldwide with Europe making 3% while Namco didn't publish a single Tales there (2 were Nintendo, 2 Ubisoft).jarrod said:
Link1110
Member
Alright, from the above post and Japanese Wikipedia we have this:
Ths US numbers will be 4/5 of the remainder of any given game to account for Asia/Famitsu discripencies etc.
These are my own personal estimates, I do not claim them as fact.
Destiny PSX
Total - 1,139,000
Japan - 900,000
US - 191,200
Eternia PS1
Total - 873,000
Japan - 700,000 (Liberal estimate)
US - 138,400
Phantasia GBA
Total - 314,000
Japan - 130,000
US - 147,200
Symphonia GCN
Total - 953,000
Japan - 320,000
US - 530,000 (This was already on Wikipedia)
Eternia PSP
Total - 398,000
Japan - 249,000
Europe - 119,200
Legendia
Total - 397,000
Japan - 340,000
US - 45,600
Abyss
Total - 734,000
Japan - 570,000
US - 131,200
Radiant Mythology
Total - 305,000
Japan - 230,000
US - 60,000
Ths US numbers will be 4/5 of the remainder of any given game to account for Asia/Famitsu discripencies etc.
These are my own personal estimates, I do not claim them as fact.
Destiny PSX
Total - 1,139,000
Japan - 900,000
US - 191,200
Eternia PS1
Total - 873,000
Japan - 700,000 (Liberal estimate)
US - 138,400
Phantasia GBA
Total - 314,000
Japan - 130,000
US - 147,200
Symphonia GCN
Total - 953,000
Japan - 320,000
US - 530,000 (This was already on Wikipedia)
Eternia PSP
Total - 398,000
Japan - 249,000
Europe - 119,200
Legendia
Total - 397,000
Japan - 340,000
US - 45,600
Abyss
Total - 734,000
Japan - 570,000
US - 131,200
Radiant Mythology
Total - 305,000
Japan - 230,000
US - 60,000
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I don't think we can discuss NPD data (even if it was posted here though), so I'll leave that number aside. Namco shipped 301k ToS to Japan, 204k to Europe.jarrod said:
They didn't even try, thus why you see such numbers lol (sorry I couldn't resist).gconsole said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
donny2112 said:
And of all the companies to have economic sympathy for... Namco?
charlequin
Banned
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
This is the good news, right? If it really did 160k already, that means it went on from its opener to fairly quickly sell out its first shipment and (presumably) got reordered.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Thats the amount they shipped until 11th Dec...which looks fairly similar to what sinobi said (150k first shipment). I doubt they could restock in 5 days though, its probably more like 2 weeks.charlequin said:
Must be the case then, as using NPD Symphonia would be well over a million then... what did Namco say to have shipped to NA?Kurosaki Ichigo said:
I wonder if these sales maybe don't include budget reprints then? Namco shipped 184k to EU for fiscal 2004... I'd be surprised if the 2005 budget reprint was just 20k then too?
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Mmm, I took the 204k from a Namco pdf that seems impossible to find right now with the mess they did while merging Bandai and Namco. I just have it on a txt, so I can't backup either that or the JP shipment, but I'm pretty sure I copied them from the pdfs. I don't remember any budget reprint for Europe though...jarrod said:
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/financial/namco.html
Why doesn't any of these links work? :lol
The japanese one works but my Adobe Reader looks fucked and doesn't want to load any of them:
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/ir/result/index.html
Aaanyway, data posted here comes from:
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/press/release/pdf/53-026.pdf
That I can't open so I went with this:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071211/tales.htm
ベスト版なども通常版に含む。(Contains regular and the best versions, etc.)
Magicpaint
Member
There was no budget reprint for ToS GC in Europe.
There wasn't?! Oh yikes, I'm probably way off then. :lolMagicpaint said:
Using KI's Namco shipment figures, it must be something like...
NA 448k
JP 301k
EU 204k
...then? Was there an official Asian release?
Strange that NPD and all the JP sales trackers over-estimate Symphonia GCN so much then (while they under-represent basically every other Tales according to shipments)? :/
Moor-Angol
Banned
SMG is still raising on amazon.jp chart, honestly i never saw a game which gained positions after positions (it was around #30-35 some week ago, now it's around #18-20) one month and a half since its release...