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I Wanna Be The Guy · Nov 11, 2013

Roboleon said:
lol, do you even want a new title after Black Ops: Declassified?

I want a new COD made by a good developer in a reasonable amount of time. Not only was Declassified made by shitty dev, but it was also rushed out in a few months. A good developer wouldn't have been able to make a good game in that time. If they would have ported Ghosts to Vita instead of Wii U and had Treyarch do the port, it could have been good. I along with many others may well have bought it.

In any case I guarantee the game would have sold better than how the Wii U version is selling and to me it does seem silly for them to make a Wii U version but not a Vita version.

Taker666 · Nov 11, 2013

Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart...

..not that I'm surprised as I've barely seen it mentioned anywhere.and it had absolutely zero marketing (it was only when I checked to see when it was released..that I found out it had been).

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Actually, we have something which can resemble an estimate for Ghosts.
Unfortunately, Batman: Arkham Origins estimate is not as precise as the others, but it should have sold around 7.507 units (probably, it's more around 8.000-8.500, but let's use that). And it sold lower than COD on PC.
Then

Call of Duty: Ghosts >750.700
Xbox 360 (62%) >465.434
PS3 (34%) >255.238
PS4 (3%) >22.521
PC (1%) > 7.507

Kenka · Nov 11, 2013

Taker666 said:
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart....

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Taker666 said:
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart...

..not that I'm surprised as I've barely seen it mentioned anywhere.and it had absolutely zero marketing (it was only when I checked to see when it was released..that I found out it had been).

It's 10th in the Wii U Only top 10. And the sixth (Batman: Arkham Origins) sold around 800 units. It's lower than Sonic: Lost World.

TheZjman · Nov 11, 2013

So the fact that Arkham Origins Wii U didn't chart and sold around 850 copies, means that Mario and Sonic 2014 sold around that number too?

And that means the the NSMB/LU Bundle sold above that, which i guess is not too bad.

Does anyone know how well the previous Mario & Sonic game did?

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Ah, right. FIFA 14 on Vita sold around 900 copies.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110038

I think you all knows what this mean.

Pie and Beans · Nov 11, 2013

Taker666 said:
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart...

..not that I'm surprised as I've barely seen it mentioned anywhere.and it had absolutely zero marketing (it was only when I checked to see when it was released..that I found out it had been).

Should be greatly concerning for Sega. Not too long ago, it was one of the only titles carrying them.

Raist · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
Actually, we have something which can resemble an estimate for Ghosts.
Unfortunately, Batman: Arkham Origins estimate is not as precise as the others, but it should have sold around 7.507 units (probably, it's more around 8.000-8.500, but let's use that). And it sold lower than COD on PC.
Then

Call of Duty: Ghosts >750.700
Xbox 360 (62%) >465.434
PS3 (34%) >255.238
PS4 (3%) >22.521
PC (1%) > 7.507

We have fairly accurate higher limits as well (I posted them earlier on), based on FIFA14 first week numbers. So taking everything into account:

CoD: Ghosts
465,434 < 360 < 518,320
255,238 < PS3 < 261,800
22,521 < PS4 < 25,080
7,507 < PC+WiiU < 8,360

750,700 < Total < 836,000

Also, you should use comas to separate thousands otherwise US/UK folks will be confused

I Wanna Be The Guy · Nov 11, 2013

Taker666 said:
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart...

..not that I'm surprised as I've barely seen it mentioned anywhere.and it had absolutely zero marketing (it was only when I checked to see when it was released..that I found out it had been).

I didn't even know it existed. If I didn't know it existed then the general public has no chance.

21st century cowboy · Nov 11, 2013

Mario007 said:
Haha true that. At the very least it seems like Vita forced sony to create a porting department so at least that might be its legacy. Still ghost should have been at least attempted to be ported. Maybe by the time they had their porting department up it was too late to get it out this year. Maybe Activision screwed SOny over and gave them Spiderman to port instead.

Again do people really think that PS4 and Xbone version of Ghost will bridge that 700k gap?

Oh I agree but to see the actual drop from last year the sales from the launches need to be taken into account. I think it's will be at least 200,000 across both consoles.

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Such a horrible debut for Mario & Sonic on Wii U makes me think the 3DS version has to come soon.

But Winter Olympics are coming too soon, so it's impossible

Steroyd · Nov 11, 2013

Mario007 said:
Their newest game did half of last' years CoD's numbers and last year, BO2 did 400k less than MW3. They've lost around a million in the space of 2 years. There's no way the next gen consoles will make up even fraction of that. Activision should be concerned with CoD numbers. Thankfully for them they were smart enough to forsee this and thus we have Destiny.

Wait wait wait, you mean COD sales have actually been declining year on year?

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

*ahem*

Lagspike_exe said:
X1 + PS4 would have to launch with 700k hardware sales week 1 and 1:1 Ghost attach ratio just to match BLOPS2. Do you think this is even a remote possibility? Also, doesn't Ghost have an upgrade package to next gen in the UK or is that US only?

Yeah Cod Ghosts has the upgrade package but I can't imagine too many people spending a total of £60-£70 when you could just wait a few weeks.

All I know is that COD sells gangbusters in the US and UK and I do expect a high attatch rate, maybe not that high, but Activision was blaming lower sales in the run up to next gen so I'm assuming they're taking the wait and see approach before crying over their millions.

21st century cowboy · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
Ah, right. FIFA 14 on Vita sold around 900 copies.

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110038

I think you all knows what this mean.

I would have bought it if it was the same as the PS360 version. I'm sure a lot of people would

Prince Vultan · Nov 11, 2013

Taker666 said:
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics for the Wii U didn't even chart...

..not that I'm surprised as I've barely seen it mentioned anywhere.and it had absolutely zero marketing (it was only when I checked to see when it was released..that I found out it had been).

They didn't seriously release it exclusively on Wii U did they? Not even a 3DS version? Never mind a Wii one.

That's gonna cut Sega deep seeing as how huge that series has been for them in the past.

maquiladora · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
It's 10th in the Wii U Only top 10. And the sixth (Batman: Arkham Origins) sold around 800 units. It's lower than Sonic: Lost World.

Damn...

Pie and Beans · Nov 11, 2013

Prince Vultan said:
They didn't seriously release it exclusively on Wii U did they? Not even a 3DS version? Never mind a Wii one.

That's gonna cut Sega deep seeing as how huge that series has been for them in the past.

3rd game should be a quicky Sonic Generations port at this rate rather than another actual investment into oblivion.

Saty · Nov 11, 2013

I wonder if jvm can inquire how much a portion do PC exclusives have vs. PC multiplatform in the YTD units at retail.

Raist · Nov 11, 2013

Lagspike_exe said:
X1 + PS4 would have to launch with 700k hardware sales week 1 and 1:1 Ghost attach ratio just to match BLOPS2. Do you think this is even a remote possibility? Also, doesn't Ghost have an upgrade package to next gen in the UK or is that US only?

Yep, not gonna happen. For reference, the PS3 sold a bit over 165k during its first week, and was the 2nd fastest selling platform ever in the UK (behind the PSP and even ahead of Wii).

Radec · Nov 11, 2013

06 (NE) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)

first next gen chart entry!

Prince Vultan · Nov 11, 2013

Pie and Beans said:
3rd game should be a quicky Sonic Generations port at this rate rather than another actual investment into oblivion.

I guess that depends on who'll be footing the actual development bill on that last title, Sega or Nintendo. If Nintendo are only publishing/paying for exclusivity on the title rather than actually covering the cost of it's creation, then Sega must be in a pretty rough spot right now I imagine :/

That's the last thing they need these days.

KingSnake · Nov 11, 2013

Pie and Beans said:
3rd game should be a quicky Sonic Generations port at this rate rather than another actual investment into oblivion.

Could be even Bayonetta Reloaded or a 3ds game, nothing is known.

Pie and Beans · Nov 11, 2013

KingSnake said:
Could be even Bayonetta Reloaded or a 3ds game, nothing is known.

Its specifically Sonic.

Theoretical futures, and with the "Sonic sells better on Nintendo" argument still in action, giving up a title (Lost World) that could have been around for the family friendly arm of PS4 and Xbone launch and piggy backed sales there seems like yet another poor choice. Just wonder how much Nintendo slung their way at all to make any of this worth it.

shinra-bansho · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
Batman: Arkham Origins - about 20.853
Xbox 360 (45%) - 9.384
PS3 (36%) - 7.507
PC (8%) - 1.668
Wii U (4%) - 834

WBIE and Activision raking in all that Wii U software monies.

Moonstone · Nov 11, 2013

Repost, deleted my earlier post, because numbers were incomplete and found more.
Data is from media control and was published in the recent Focus magazine.

We had a europe hardware sales data thread, but I couldn't find it.

Germany LtD hardware sales (in million):
NDS 7,5
PS2 5,9
Wii 4,6
PS3 3,9
360 2,4
PSP 2,0
3DS 1,6
PSV 0,2
WiiU 0,16
Total 28

Germany Q1-Q3 2013 hardware sales :
3DS 347k (343k)
PS3 280k (424k)
360 165k (220k)
Wii 85k (192k)
WiiU 75k
PSP 48k
PSV 48k
NDS 17k
...
...
PS2 200 (lol)

Other stuff:
-3DS sold 700k last year. They expect at least a two digit growth(~ >770k)
-PSP and Wii are still selling
-NDS really killed the PS2

zomgbbqftw · Nov 11, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
WBIE and Activision raking in all that Wii U software monies.

Like I said in the other thread. This all makes a mockery of Iwata's no payola policy. There is absolutely no way Wii U versions of these games would have been greenlit without Nintendo stumping up some cash for porting them. The business case for third parties to port games to the Wii U doesn't exist. Nintendo will have had to incentivise them in some way.

I think Watchdoge is the last major third party game that the Wii U will get at this rate.

Captain Smoker · Nov 11, 2013

Moonstone said:
Repost, deleted my earlier post, because numbers were incomplete and found more.
Data is from media control and was published in the recent Focus magazine.

We had a europe hardware sales data thread, but I couldn't find it.

Germany LtD hardware sales (in million):
NDS 7,5
PS2 5,9
Wii 4,6
PS3 3,9
360 2,4
PSP 2,0
3DS 1,6
PSV 0,2
WiiU 0,16
Total 28

Germany Q1-Q3 hardware sales :
3DS 347k (343k)
PS3 280k (424k)
360 165k (220k)
Wii 85k (192k)
WiiU 75k
PSP 48k
PSV 48k
NDS 17k
...
...
PS2 200 (lol)

Other stuff:
-3DS sold 700k last year. They expect at least a two digit growth(~ >770k)
-PSP and Wii are still selling
-NDS really killed the PS2

Great, thank you.

Sho_Nuff82 · Nov 11, 2013

Raist said:
Yep, not gonna happen. For reference, the PS3 sold a bit over 165k during its first week, and was the 2nd fastest selling platform ever in the UK (behind the PSP and even ahead of Wii).

The PS4 and Xbone are going to break UK launch records, and CoD isn't going to stop selling in November. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 version increased the next two weeks.

shinra-bansho · Nov 11, 2013

Oh I just saw, Mario and Sonic on the Wii U top 10...

That was one of the few games I thought could actually sell a reasonable number of units, and it debuted at a measly few hundred.

zomgbbqftw said:
Like I said in the other thread. This all makes a mockery of Iwata's no payola policy. There is absolutely no way Wii U versions of these games would have been greenlit without Nintendo stumping up some cash for porting them. The business case for third parties to port games to the Wii U doesn't exist. Nintendo will have had to incentivise them in some way.

I think Watchdoge is the last major third party game that the Wii U will get at this rate.

I suppose if COD does decently in the US, it could see another COD. But I don't really see it happening now unless it does at least a few hundred thousand there. And I previously considered COD one of the few "safe" franchises that may still get ported.

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Moonstone said:
Repost, deleted my earlier post, because numbers were incomplete and found more.
Data is from media control and was published in the recent Focus magazine.

We had a europe hardware sales data thread, but I couldn't find it.

Germany LtD hardware sales (in million):
NDS 7,5
PS2 5,9
Wii 4,6
PS3 3,9
360 2,4
PSP 2,0
3DS 1,6
PSV 0,2
WiiU 0,16
Total 28

Germany Q1-Q3 2013 hardware sales :
3DS 347k (343k)
PS3 280k (424k)
360 165k (220k)
Wii 85k (192k)
WiiU 75k
PSP 48k
PSV 48k
NDS 17k
...
...
PS2 200 (lol)

Other stuff:
-3DS sold 700k last year. They expect at least a two digit growth(~ >770k)
-PSP and Wii are still selling
-NDS really killed the PS2

Given the German shares for Q1

And how, across all Europe, the console was still being outsold by PS3 in both April and May, 3DS must have had a great Summers, sales wise. So much to be basically steady YOY despite Q1 sales being lower than Q1 2012. Since it's till Q3, Pokémon sales aren't included.

peanutbutterlatte · Nov 11, 2013

Yikes, would have expected higher sales for a Layton debut. Think the ship has sailed with that one, even Fire Emblem charted in the Top 10 (admittedly in a much quieter release period)

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

MasterBalls said:
Yikes, would have expected higher sales for a Layton debut. Think the ship has sailed with that one, even Fire Emblem charted in the Top 10 (admittedly in a much quieter release period)

When Fire Emblem debuted third, there were no COD, no Battlefield, no Assassin's Creed, no GTAV, no FIFA14...heck, so many huge franchises releasing this year indeed, even more than usual.

However, I have a gut feeling Layton will have a great debut (even with all these huge games being in charts) in other European countries.

EDIT: Why do you change Kuzco's scene every time. First, it was Iron Man, now Doctor Who. Why :lol

Raist · Nov 11, 2013

Sho_Nuff82 said:
The PS4 and Xbone are going to break UK launch records, and CoD isn't going to stop selling in November. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 version increased the next two weeks.

Sure, but the CoD comparison was for week one sales of the different entries. There's a giant gap that won't ever be closed but yeah, I doubt the LTD sales will show such a difference. It'll likely be lower than other titles, though.

Edit: For reference

Week 1 CoD: BO2 sales
360 - 924,000
PS3 - 585,200

Compared to:

Week 1 CoD: Ghosts
465,434 < 360 < 518,320
255,238 < PS3 < 284,240

That's -406k for 360, -301k for PS3 at the very least. People getting next gen versions instead likely won't cover that. Especially in the context of BF4 and KZ.

Admiral Bone to Pick · Nov 11, 2013

Acquiescence said:
It's kind of depressing that the first ever PS4 game to chart is a Call of Duty.

I think it's a sign of things to come. Besides, it's not like previous Sony system launch games were so inspiring.

zomgbbqftw · Nov 11, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
I suppose if COD does decently in the US, it could see another COD. But I don't really see it happening now unless it does at least a few hundred thousand there. And I previously considered COD one of the few "safe" franchises that may still get ported.

I don't see COD doing all that well in the US on Wii U either.

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

Mr. Serious Business said:
I think it's a sign of things to come. Besides, it's not like previous Sony system launch games were so inspiring.

Guys, I think the reason is that COD: Ghosts is the first PS4 title to be released in UK. I think that could have played a role, but it's just my guess.

peanutbutterlatte · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
When Fire Emblem debuted third, there were no COD, no Battlefield, no Assassin's Creed, no GTAV, no FIFA14...heck, so many huge franchises releasing this year indeed, even more than usual.

However, I have a gut feeling Layton will have a great debut (even with all these huge games being in charts) in other European countries.

EDIT: Why do you change Kuzco's scene every time. First, it was Iron Man, now Doctor Who. Why :lol

It might be, along with Pokemon, a game that gets its second wind closer to Christmas too. Oh, and also,

That's why

Bruno MB · Nov 11, 2013

Call of Duty sales tumble 50%, but how bad is it?

Call of Duty: Ghosts UK launch sales are around 50 per cent lower than Call of Duty: Black Ops II, retail sources have told MCV.

And comparatively, Ghosts has performed quite well. Battlefield 4 sales are down 69 per cent over Battlefield 3, while Assassin’s Creed IV sales are down 60 per cent of Assassin’s Creed III.

That's around 770k units.

zomgbbqftw · Nov 11, 2013

Bruno MB said:
Call of Duty sales tumble 50%, but how bad is it?

That's around 770k units.

It's actually been more resistant to next gen than the other titles. COD > * in terms of sales in this country. Pronouncements of its death are premature.

Mpl90 · Nov 11, 2013

zomgbbqftw said:
It's actually been more resistant to next gen than the other titles. COD > * in terms of sales in this country. Pronouncements of its death are premature.

Nope, FIFA14 has been the far more resistant both in percentages and in actual numbers (just 24% drop). In actual numbers, COD has been slaughtered. Yep, Assassin's Creed IV and Battlefield lost from 200,000 to 300,000 units compared to last entries, but COD lost around 800,000 units.

Waluigilicious · Nov 11, 2013

Two things that shocked me.

1. The PC version of Ghosts charting so high when it and the Wii U together sold 1% of the total sales. What percentage is the Wii U version exactly?

2. Mario & Sonic charting 10th in the Wii U only Chart. Ghosts charted 4th and that's like 0.2% of the total sales of Ghosts or something. How many copies did M&S sell exactly? This has got to be a MASSIVE bomb. Glad I didn't buy it, should go down in price soon. The M&S series is (was) very popular in the UK and not to mention there was no 3DS version to steal any sales. Wow.

Magicpaint · Nov 11, 2013

Yeah frankly I'm amazed CoD can still produce these numbers after yearly installments and being at the tail end of the generation.

zomgbbqftw · Nov 11, 2013

Mpl90 said:
Nope, FIFA14 has been the far more resistant both in percentages and in actual numbers (just 24% drop). In actual numbers, COD has been slaughtered. Yep, Assassin's Creed IV and Battlefield lost from 200,000 to 300,000 units compared to last entries, but COD lost around 800,000 units.

FIFA is the most resistant of franchises because of roster updates. People are more likely to double dip for it.

The bigger they come the harder they fall. That's always been true. However, I think by next year COD will have recovered and it will be massive on current and next gen.

Mario007 · Nov 11, 2013

zomgbbqftw said:
It's actually been more resistant to next gen than the other titles. COD > * in terms of sales in this country. Pronouncements of its death are premature.

Well we can't just go around and thrown the next gen excuse all the time. It definitely can't account for 60% of the sales. All three big franchises have their own reasons for being down. Battlefield 4 is not nearly has hyped as Battlefield 3 was. EA spent insane amount of cash to make sure B3 sold well above 10 million to have its own 'COD killer'. This time around the hype and marketing B4 got was akin to games like Dead Space or Mass Effect and thus the effect on awareness of the title was much lower.

Ubisoft itself acknowledged that it doesn't see AC4 selling more than AC3. The reason for this is probably because AC4 is much more of an AC3 spin-off than a mainline title. It looks and feels much closer to something like Revelations rather than a new numbered entry in the series. Also coming into AC3 there was quite a lot of hype and expectation when it came to the overreaching story that simply isn't there anymore. Lastly AC3 did sour the series for many people.

With COD, looking at the numbers, it simply looks like franchise fatique is setting in. It doesn't help that the creative people from IW are gone or that that IW had to create the game for 6 different platforms, this time without the help of sledgehammer. That led the bad reviews and quite possibly will have an effect on the word of mouth.

Sure the waiting for the next-gen versions does account for some sales being lost but definitelly not those astronimical drops.

Raist · Nov 11, 2013

Mario007 said:
Well we can't just go around and thrown the next gen excuse all the time. It definitely can't account for 60% of the sales. All three big franchises have their own reasons for being down. Battlefield 4 is not nearly has hyped as Battlefield 3 was. EA spent insane amount of cash to make sure B3 sold well above 10 million to have its own 'COD killer'. This time around the hype and marketing B4 got was akin to games like Dead Space or Mass Effect and thus the effect on awareness of the title was much lower.

Ubisoft itself acknowledged that it doesn't see AC4 selling more than AC3. The reason for this is probably because AC4 is much more of an AC3 spin-off than a mainline title. It looks and feels much closer to something like Revelations rather than a new numbered entry in the series. Also coming into AC3 there was quite a lot of hype and expectation when it came to the overreaching story that simply isn't there anymore. Lastly AC3 did sour the series for many people.

With COD, looking at the numbers, it simply looks like franchise fatique is setting in. It doesn't help that the creative people from IW are gone or that that IW had to create the game for 6 different platforms, this time without the help of sledgehammer. That led the bad reviews and quite possibly will have an effect on the word of mouth.

Sure the waiting for the next-gen versions does account for some sales being lost but definitelly not those astronimical drops.

I think something worth noting is that the past couple of months (and next few weeks) have seen almost simultaneous releases of huge franchises:
GTA
AC
CoD
BF
FIFA
That doesn't happen every year.

There's also next gen consoles around the corner, so people won't spend that much on games, especially with bundles. In this context CoD and BF4 also directly compete with KZ.

jnWake · Nov 11, 2013

Pie and Beans said:
Should be greatly concerning for Sega. Not too long ago, it was one of the only titles carrying them.

Drake & Sonic at the Olympics incoming?

TheZjman · Nov 11, 2013

Waluigilicious said:
Two things that shocked me.

1. The PC version of Ghosts charting so high when it and the Wii U together sold 1% of the total sales. What percentage is the Wii U version exactly?

2. Mario & Sonic charting 10th in the Wii U only Chart. Ghosts charted 4th and that's like 0.2% of the total sales of Ghosts or something. How many copies did M&S sell exactly? This has got to be a MASSIVE bomb. Glad I didn't buy it, should go down in price soon. The M&S series is (was) very popular in the UK and not to mention there was no 3DS version to steal any sales. Wow.

Looking at below 850 units for M&S. Abysmal.

It's funny that CoD has these sales and is dying whereas every other publisher would love for their games to sell that many units in it's first week!

Road · Nov 11, 2013

Moonstone said:
Repost, deleted my earlier post, because numbers were incomplete and found more.
Data is from media control and was published in the recent Focus magazine.

We had a europe hardware sales data thread, but I couldn't find it.

Germany LtD hardware sales (in million):
NDS 7,5
PS2 5,9
Wii 4,6
PS3 3,9
360 2,4
PSP 2,0
3DS 1,6
PSV 0,2
WiiU 0,16
Total 28

Other stuff:
-3DS sold 700k last year. They expect at least a two digit growth(~ >770k)
-PSP and Wii are still selling
-NDS really killed the PS2

Does it say until when is the LTD? March? October?

Thanks.

Mory Dunz · Nov 11, 2013

Moonstone said:
Repost, deleted my earlier post, because numbers were incomplete and found more.
Data is from media control and was published in the recent Focus magazine.

We had a europe hardware sales data thread, but I couldn't find it.

Germany LtD hardware sales (in million):
NDS 7,5
PS2 5,9
Wii 4,6
PS3 3,9
360 2,4
PSP 2,0
3DS 1,6
PSV 0,2
WiiU 0,16
Total 28

Germany Q1-Q3 2013 hardware sales :
3DS 347k (343k)
PS3 280k (424k)
360 165k (220k)
Wii 85k (192k)
WiiU 75k
PSP 48k
PSV 48k
NDS 17k
...
...
PS2 200 (lol)

Other stuff:
-3DS sold 700k last year. They expect at least a two digit growth(~ >770k)
-PSP and Wii are still selling
-NDS really killed the PS2

Wii and PSP still selling better than Wii U and Vita in Germany. Sad.

Surprised the DS did so much better than the PS2 there.

Also surprised the Wii U is selling faster than the Vita there.

What do the numbers in parentheses mean?

Majmun · Nov 11, 2013

Damn, makes me wonder how many people have pre-ordered the Ps4 if COD can chart 3 weeks before the console gets released.

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