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Captain Smoker said:
He said, that the PS3 has overtaken the 360 in France, Spain, Germany, Italy and Switzerland.


Spain = right
Italy = right

Germany = ?
Switzerland = ?

France = no


If we don´t have GfK numbers, we can´t be sure. ;)

I´ve only data for the Wii [Nov + Dec = 411.000]

So what your saying is, even tho you don't have proof that he is lieing your going to assume he is lieing....ok :lol
 
bluheim said:
Less than Uncharted, which is bombing according to GAF. :D
You're comparing Z&W to Uncharted? Really? :lol

Wollan said:
While I don't know about overtaking the X360 (software sales post xmas seem to indicate so though and David Reeves says so officially)..
The xmas sales of PS3s in Germany was supposedly insane. Many, many places sold out..etc.
Didn't hear anything about it. Do you have a source for that? I mean it's safe to asume they had good christmas sales, that's for sure. Insane? Sold out in a lot of places? Dunno, videogaming is not as mainstream here as in other countries.
 
bluheim said:
And Volkswagen > Porsche + Ferrari

WHAT A SURPRISE !!! Euroland is so strange.
Considering Nintendo has always been a flaming wreck in Europe it is incredibly surprising.

Not to mention you've set up a flase dichotomy considering the Wii is almost as expensive as the 360 in many European nations.

Stop trying so hard.
 
Phife Dawg said:
You're comparing Z&W to Uncharted? Really? :lol


Didn't hear anything about it. Do you have a source for that? I mean it's safe to asume they had good christmas sales, that's for sure. Insane? Sold out in a lot of places? Dunno, videogaming is not as mainstream here as in other countries.

Yeah, i saw that my self a couple of times (Saturn, Hamburg for example). Singstar have been sold out as well. They made a whole singstar PS3 (and ps2) area now in their shop.
 
bluheim said:
And Volkswagen > Porsche + Ferrari

WHAT A SURPRISE !!! Euroland is so strange.
I posted this (in another thread) in response to someone making a similarly stupid analogy.
I hear this analogy all the time, and it's still the dumbest one yet. The difference between a Ferrari and a Toyota (or in this case a VW) is hundreds of thousands of dollars. How about this analogy, who sells more automobiles, Toyota or Kia? Now, which one offers the cheaper vehicles on average?
 
Captain Smoker said:
Do you really think, that the PS3 outsold the 360 by 156.000 units in Nov. and Dec.? :lol :lol
yeah. we had on week in November where the Ps3 sold over 30k and the 360 only 4 or 5k. Its absolute possible that PS3 has already overtaken the 360 in Germany.
 
carlosp said:
Yeah, i saw that my self a couple of times (Saturn, Hamburg for example). Singstar have been sold out as well. They made a whole singstar PS3 (and ps2) area now in their shop.
Well it's annecdotal, you can get PS3 around here easily. That doesn't say anything about the whole of Germany though.
 
Darji said:
yeah. we had on week in November where the Ps3 sold over 30k and the 360 only 4 or 5k. Its absolute possible that PS3 has already overtaken the 360 in Germany.

Since when are weekly numbers released ? Source ?
 
Sindou_Hikaru20 said:
Pokemon D&P and Harvest Moon were at 15,90 € on Amazon.de ^^
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that the European versions of Pokémon Diamond/Pearl are fucking single-language pieces of shit, and the translations were specifically optimized to make the least possible sense. Do yourself a favor and import it from the UK.
 
Predictions people. How do you think DMC4 will do?

I think it'll be a 60/40 split in favour of 360 for the UK, PS3 version leading elsewhere in EU.
 
Wollan said:
Definitely be a 60/40 split due to the higher PS3 price.

I'm going to say the exact opposite, that the PS3 version will win with a 60/40 split. Why? Because I till believe that Europe wants to be Sonyland and because DMC is a legacy title of Sony's.
 
Kyoufu said:
Predictions people. How do you think DMC4 will do?

I think it'll be a 60/40 split in favour of 360 for the UK, PS3 version leading elsewhere in EU.

in UK almost like Burnout so 360 > PS3 but in Europe PS3 > 360
 
Captain Smoker said:
Ah, I´ve forgotten the software numbers for Italy. ^^

Here we go, the numbers in the second brackets are the LTDs.

Nice, I hope you'll keep posting those :)

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Italy :
Week 4, 2008http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9659026&postcount=241

01 (__) [PS3] Burnout Paradise (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) [NDS] More Brain Training from D. Kawashima (Nintendo)
03 (01) [PS2] PES 2008 (Konami)
04 (04) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
05 (07) [PS2] FIFA 08 (Electronic Arts)
06 (03) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
07 (__) [360] Burnout Paradise (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) [PS3] PES 2008 (Konami)
09 (__) [PS3] Uncharted : Drake's Fortune (SCE)
10 (10) [NDS] Nintendogs Labrador (Nintendo)
 
Raist said:
Nice, I hope you'll keep posting those :)

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Italy :
Week 4, 2008http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9659026&postcount=241

01 (__) [PS3] Burnout Paradise (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) [NDS] More Brain Training from D. Kawashima (Nintendo)
03 (01) [PS2] PES 2008 (Konami)
04 (04) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
05 (07) [PS2] FIFA 08 (Electronic Arts)
06 (03) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
07 (__) [360] Burnout Paradise (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) [PS3] PES 2008 (Konami)
09 (__) [PS3] Uncharted : Drake's Fortune (SCE)
10 (10) [NDS] Nintendogs Labrador (Nintendo)

Wow, nice!
 
Haven't posted any graphs up here on NeoGAF for quite a while, so I figured I'd treat anyone who's still reading this thread to some historical (and current) analysis of UK software sales across various systems. While we don't get either weekly or LTD numbers from Chart-Track, what we do have as a resource is this listing of sales awards from ELSPA. ELSPA get their data from Chart-Track, and while it's far from exact, it gives a rough idea of the LTD sales of any awarded game, based on the following award structure:

Silver - >100k
Gold - >200k
Platinum - >300k
Double Platinum - >600k

I got these numbers from Captain Smoker's post above, but can't find the criterion for a diamond award on the website. Smoker, could you fill us in? I'd imagine it's most likely to be either 1 million or 1.2 million sales, but given how few games reached it, it's of limited relevance in this analysis.

Basically, I took the lists from the ELSPA's awards pages, threw them into Excel, and broke them down by system. Hence, I've come up with the following table of data:

Code:
	Silver	Gold	Platinum	Double Platinum	Diamond
PSX	65	31	18	1	0
N64	2	0	0	0	0
DC	1	0	0	0	0
PS2	291	152	78	25	4
XBOX	38	9	3	1	0
GC	7	2	0	0	0
XB360	43	17	8	2	0
WII	18	9	6	1	0
PS3	9	6	1	0	0
GBC	10	6	5	1	0
GBA	47	12	2	0	0
DS	56	20	14	3	1
PSP	38	9	3	1	0
PC	166	56	27	2	0

(Apologies for the slightly messy formatting) This shows the number of games that received each award on each system. For instance, on the Wii, 6 titles have received Platinum awards (sales over 300k) in the UK.

Of course, everyone prefers big fancy graphs to having to sift through tables of actual data, so I've broken it down further by console generation, to give you an idea of how things have compared historically.


PSX vs. N64

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As one might imagine, the Playstation whipped the N64 in terms of software sales in the UK. It is worth noting, however, both in terms of comparing one generation to the next, as well as comparing the PSX and N64 here, that this data only goes back to the end of 1999/early 2000. This both means that PSX is severely underrepresented compared to PS2 (see next graph), but also that the N64 would have been even more underrepresented, as the less successful console would generally have more front-loaded software sales (third-parties had effectively given up on the N64 by this stage, whereas PSX saw a few years more support).


DC vs. PS2 vs. XBox vs. Gamecube

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This, however, is data for the full generation (almost, as PS2 software is still selling). Once again, Sony was well ahead on all accounts. Gamecube did particularly poorly, without any games reaching Platinum status (Wii has already had 6). The reasons for Sega's withdrawal from the console race are quite obvious here as well, with only a single game getting above the 100k needed for the lowest award (Silver).


XBox 360 vs. Wii vs. PS3

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As expected, the XBox 360's year head-start has given it the early lead in software sales. The lead diminishes, though, as we look at the larger awards (Wii is at less that half the Silvers of the XBox 360, but has almost caught up in terms of Platinums). PS3's position compared to the Wii can be partially explained by the fact that it came out about 5 months after the Wii in the UK (including missing out on a Christmas period), but if the Wii's current domination of the UK charts continues, we'll be looking at the gap widening rather than narrowing over the coming months.


GBC vs. GBA vs. DS vs. PSP

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I've lumped all the handhelds together for simplicity's sake, and a few observations spring rather quickly to mind. The main one is how close the PSP, DS and GBA are in Silver awards, compared to how far the DS is ahead of both in Platinums. Also, we can see that the PSP has actually had more Platinum sellers than the GBA did, despite not yet reaching its levels in the lower categories. DS shows very good software sales here, but it's still got some way to go before moving software on the sort of levels we see on the consoles above (particularly PS2).

It's also worth pointing out that, like the PSX and N64 above, the Gameboy Colour was released before ELSPA started giving out these awards, so it's going to be somewhat underrepresented here also (although it had a relatively short lifespan anyway).


PC

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Not much comparison to be done here, but I thought people might like a chart regardless.
 
Kyoufu said:
Predictions people. How do you think DMC4 will do?

I think it'll be a 60/40 split in favour of 360 for the UK, PS3 version leading elsewhere in EU.

expect uk it will look like this at best 70/30 for sony. I have checked and DMC 4 is for 59 € for ps3 which is a very usualy pricing tag. I didnt look at the 360 version, is it for 49 then? Anyway i think the ps3 version will outsell the 360 by far, similar to japan but not so radical.


Amazon GER:

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19:
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I got these numbers from Captain Smoker's post above, but can't find the criterion for a diamond award on the website. Smoker, could you fill us in? I'd imagine it's most likely to be either 1 million or 1.2 million sales, but given how few games reached it, it's of limited relevance in this analysis.
Diamond = 1.000.000

Nice graphs. ^^


GfK should also make some charts like that...
 
Kyoufu said:
Predictions people. How do you think DMC4 will do?

I think it'll be a 60/40 split in favour of 360 for the UK, PS3 version leading elsewhere in EU.
60/40 to Xbox 360.

The DMC4 TV ads running in the UK are for Xbox 360 only.
 
Thraktor said:
Code:
	Silver	Gold	Platinum	Double Platinum	Diamond
N64	2	0	0	0	                     0
GC	7	2	0	0	                     0
WII	18	9	6	1	                     0

I am completely amazed at the turn around for nintendo.

For the failure I thought the Gamecube was in the U.K., it performed better than the N64 which I take it, must have been the biggest flop in the UK since the virtual boy.
 
sphinx said:
I am completely amazed at the turn around for nintendo.

For the failure I thought the Gamecube was in the U.K., it performed better than the N64 which I take it, must have been the biggest flop in the UK since the virtual boy.

I think it's been said before but ELSPAs sales awards don't go back that far, I think 2000/2001 is roughly when they started so they don't take into account most of the N64/PSOne's life span.
 
Phife Dawg said:
Well it's annecdotal, you can get PS3 around here easily. That doesn't say anything about the whole of Germany though.

Anecdotal evidence from the Netherlands: in the Mediamarkt in Amsterdam the PS3 is often sold out (as are the Wii and PSP). The DS is usually almost sold out. The only consoles that always have plenty of stock even during the holidays were the 360 and PS2. It's been months since I a Wii there BTW.
 
Anyone thinking that the Xbox 360 version of DMC4 will outsell the PS3 version in France, Germany, Italy or Spain are dreaming. It just isn't going to happen.
 
Lightning said:
Anyone thinking that the Xbox 360 version of DMC4 will outsell the PS3 version in France, Germany, Italy or Spain are dreaming. It just isn't going to happen.

pricing difference is a bit less 8 Euro vs 15 Euro in UK...
 
dont wanna go into tinfoi hat mode, but i wonder if ms and capcom are behind this 20min install, higher price, and now adverts that only show the 360 version. this gen is getting nasty
 
So...guys, why does Burnout appear in some charts week 4? Didn't it launch in week 5? ?.?

In the spanish week 4 it doesn't but here it is week 5...

01. Wii Play (Wii)
02. Burnout Paradise (PS3)
03. More Brain Training from Dr. Kawashima (DS)
04. Big Brain Academy (Wii)
05. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
06. Link’s Crossbow Training w/ Wii Zapper (Wii)
07. Mario Party 8 (Wii)
08. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS3)
09. WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 (PSP)
10. Assassin’s Creed (PS3)

Yeah, there is a PSP game there. And Burnout 360 doesn't make it.
 
mabuza said:
dont wanna go into tinfoi hat mode, but i wonder if ms and capcom are behind this 20min install, higher price, and now adverts that only show the 360 version. this gen is getting nasty

First of all you couldn't even spell it correctly, and second that's just fucking stupid.
 
Kyoufu said:
Predictions people. How do you think DMC4 will do?

I think it'll be a 60/40 split in favour of 360 for the UK, PS3 version leading elsewhere in EU.

Do not care as long as it flops ^.^ Yes I hope it floppilyflopflop flops with a big bang so Capcom will revision the franchise and their aim for "next" gen gaming.

Please go gentle on me
 
French Charts (week 3):

1.Wii PLAY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
2.SUPER MARIO GALAXY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
3.MARIO PARTY 8 (Nintendo) Wii (+2)
4.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL DU Dr. KAWASHIMA (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
5.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL AVANCE (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
6.ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS (Nintendo) NDS (-)
7.ASSASSIN'S CREED (Ubisoft) PS3 (-)
8.THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS (Nintendo) Wii (+1)
9.PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 (Konami) PS3 (+2)
10.RAYMAN CONTRE LES LAPINS ENCORE PLUS CRETINS (Ubisoft) Wii (R)
11.CEREBRALE ACADEMIE sur Wii (Nintendo) Wii (+4)
12.MARIO KART DS (Nintendo) NDS (-4)
13.RESIDENT EVIL 4 Wii Edition (Capcom) Wii (R)
14.UNCHARTED : DRAKE'S FORTUNE (Sony Computer) PS3 (-4)
15.SUPER MARIO 64 DS (Nintendo) NDS (+5)
16.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) PS3 (-3)
17.POKEMON DIAMANT (Nintendo) NDS (R)
18.LES SIMS 2 : NAUFRAGES (Electronic Arts) NDS (-6)
19.NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. (Nintendo) NDS (-5)
20.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) 360 (-1)


Zakuuuuuuuuuu :( . Well, I'm part of the problem though, having not bought the game yet due to lack of gaming funds... However, just a few more days :) ...
And yeah, holy shit at RE4 and TP...
 
AdventureRacing said:
First of all you couldn't even spell it correctly, and second that's just fucking stupid.

I hardly think that MS is behind the 20 min install (but who knows hehe :P), but they might have something to do with the lower price. What i know, Capcom said that their business model allowed them to sell the Xbox 360 version cheaper. I dont know exactly what this means, but maybe MS are sponsoring them (or something like that) so they will still make the same amount of money now if they sell it for a lower price.

On the other hand, maybe they started to develope the PS3 version first and then later on ported the Xbox 360 version and this wasnt that expencive, therefor they can sell it for cheaper. But then again, on the other hand, i dont think its normal that developers/publishers sell the PS3 og Xbox 360 version cheaper even if the expences around one of the versions are lower than the other, but maybe. 360 games are in general alittle cheaper than the PS3 games, arent they? Maybe this is the reason, or?
 
Stormbringer said:
French Charts (week 3):

1.Wii PLAY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
2.SUPER MARIO GALAXY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
3.MARIO PARTY 8 (Nintendo) Wii (+2)
4.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL DU Dr. KAWASHIMA (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
5.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL AVANCE (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
6.ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS (Nintendo) NDS (-)
7.ASSASSIN'S CREED (Ubisoft) PS3 (-)
8.THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS (Nintendo) Wii (+1)
9.PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 (Konami) PS3 (+2)
10.RAYMAN CONTRE LES LAPINS ENCORE PLUS CRETINS (Ubisoft) Wii (R)
11.CEREBRALE ACADEMIE sur Wii (Nintendo) Wii (+4)
12.MARIO KART DS (Nintendo) NDS (-4)
13.RESIDENT EVIL 4 Wii Edition (Capcom) Wii (R)
14.UNCHARTED : DRAKE'S FORTUNE (Sony Computer) PS3 (-4)
15.SUPER MARIO 64 DS (Nintendo) NDS (+5)
16.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) PS3 (-3)
17.POKEMON DIAMANT (Nintendo) NDS (R)
18.LES SIMS 2 : NAUFRAGES (Electronic Arts) NDS (-6)
19.NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. (Nintendo) NDS (-5)
20.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) 360 (-1)


Zakuuuuuuuuuu :( .

:S I had expected to see the different console versions for 360 and PS3 to be pretty close to each other, colour me surprised.

Oh and go Wii go! You are raping the PS2.

EDIT:
Captain Smoker said:
He said, that the PS3 has overtaken the 360 in France, Spain, Germany, Italy and Switzerland.


Spain = right
Italy = right

Germany = ?
Switzerland = ?

France = no


If we don´t have GfK numbers, we can´t be sure. ;)

I´ve only data for the Wii [Nov + Dec = 411.000]

Dunno, after seeing this I'm very prone to believe that PS3 is very close to having passed the 360 in France too.

Prepares for posts about how the French like the Japanese and all other non English speaking nations hate the gajin... Americans
 
as I said before. This wont change in Europe

USA: 360
Europe: PS3
Japan PS3

But the PS3 can still overtake the 360 in the US
 
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France :
Week 3, 2008http://www.gamekult.com/blog/marchi...20+janvier+2008+Le+naufrage+de+Zack+Wiki.html

01 (01) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
03 (05) [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
04 (03) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
05 (04) [NDS] More Brain Training from Dr. Kawashima (Nintendo)
06 (06) [NDS] TLoZ : Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo)
07 (07) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
08 (09) [WII] TLoZ : Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
09 (11) [PS3] PES 2008 (Konami)
10 (__) [WII] Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 (Ubisoft)
11 (15) [WII] Big Brain Academy : Wii Degree (Nintendo)
12 (08) [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
13 (__) [WII] Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition (Capcom)
14 (10) [PS3] Uncharted : Drake's Fortune (SCE)
15 (20) [NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
16 (13) [PS3] Call of Duty 4 : Modern Warfare (Activision)
17 (__) [NDS] Pokemon Diamond (Nintendo)
18 (12) [NDS] The Sims 2 : Castaway (Electronic Arts)
19 (14) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
20 (19) [360] Call of Duty 4 : Modern Warfare (Activision)

Titles per Platform :
NDS - 8
WII - 7
PS3 - 4
360 - 1


Things of note :
- Nintendomination continues etc, yawn @ top 5
- GO NATE ! hang in there buddy
- Zack & Wiki bomba total
- Holy shit @ TP & RE4



edit : fine, beaten again. *cries*
 
Darji said:
as I said before. This wont change in Europe

USA: 360
Europe: PS3
Japan PS3

But the PS3 can still overtake the 360 in the US

It will be interesting to see if PS3 will manage to capture the Otaku generation again with FFXIII and WKS.
 
Stormbringer said:
French Charts (week 3):

1.Wii PLAY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
2.SUPER MARIO GALAXY (Nintendo) Wii (-)
3.MARIO PARTY 8 (Nintendo) Wii (+2)
4.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL DU Dr. KAWASHIMA (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
5.PROGRAMME D'ENTRAINEMENT CEREBRAL AVANCE (Nintendo) NDS (-1)
6.ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS (Nintendo) NDS (-)
7.ASSASSIN'S CREED (Ubisoft) PS3 (-)
8.THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS (Nintendo) Wii (+1)
9.PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 (Konami) PS3 (+2)
10.RAYMAN CONTRE LES LAPINS ENCORE PLUS CRETINS (Ubisoft) Wii (R)
11.CEREBRALE ACADEMIE sur Wii (Nintendo) Wii (+4)
12.MARIO KART DS (Nintendo) NDS (-4)
13.RESIDENT EVIL 4 Wii Edition (Capcom) Wii (R)
14.UNCHARTED : DRAKE'S FORTUNE (Sony Computer) PS3 (-4)
15.SUPER MARIO 64 DS (Nintendo) NDS (+5)
16.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) PS3 (-3)
17.POKEMON DIAMANT (Nintendo) NDS (R)
18.LES SIMS 2 : NAUFRAGES (Electronic Arts) NDS (-6)
19.NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. (Nintendo) NDS (-5)
20.CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (Activision) 360 (-1)


Zakuuuuuuuuuu :( . Well, I'm part of the problem though, having not bought the game yet, due to personal "quids shortage"... However in a few days :) ...
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Strange that there's no Zack&Wiki there. The Wii is pretty popular in France. I would've expected it to pop up in the charts.
 
VonGak! said:
Dunno, after seeing this I'm very prone to believe that PS3 is very close to having passed the 360 in France too.

Having a friend working on the biggest French entertainement retailer (La Fnac), all I can say is that the PS3 did outsell the 360 by a rate of 2-3x in December. I'm pretty sure the PS3 has passed the 360 right now in France.
 
VonGak! said:
It will be interesting to see if PS3 will manage to capture the Otaku generation again with FFXIII and WKS.
The PS3 will never overtake the Wii as long its alive because the potential market for the Wii is much much bigger than the one for PS3 and 360. But I am pretty sure that the PS3 will shine all over the world and in the end outsell the 360 by 2 or 3:1
 
test_account said:
I hardly think that MS is behind the 20 min install (but who knows hehe :P), but they might have something to do with the lower price. What i know, Capcom said that their business model allowed them to sell the Xbox 360 version cheaper. I dont know exactly what this means, but maybe MS are sponsoring them (or something like that) so they will still make the same amount of money now if they sell it for a lower price.

On the other hand, maybe they started to develope the PS3 version first and then later on ported the Xbox 360 version and this wasnt that expencive, therefor they can sell it for cheaper. But then again, on the other hand, i dont think its normal that developers/publishers sell the PS3 og Xbox 360 version cheaper even if the expences around one of the versions are lower than the other, but maybe. 360 games are in general alittle cheaper than the PS3 games, arent they? Maybe this is the reason, or?

only in UK, you can find stores discounting some 360 games more than PS3, and this happened in the fall and did not happen with latest games... this is the first time that game started with 10 GBP lesser MSRP for 360.

In rest of the Europe, USA, World, game prices have always beeen the same.
 
Darji said:
The PS3 will never overtake the Wii as long its alive because the potential market for the Wii is much much bigger than the one for PS3 and 360. But I am pretty sure that the PS3 will shine all over the world and in the end outsell the 360 by 2 or 3:1

not really... Potential for PS3 sales is a lot higher than for Wii sales. It is potential only though, until prices go down a lot more... I dont see that happening anytime soon.
 
Raist said:
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France :
Week 3, 2008http://www.gamekult.com/blog/marchi...20+janvier+2008+Le+naufrage+de+Zack+Wiki.html

01 (01) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
03 (05) [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
04 (03) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
05 (04) [NDS] More Brain Training from Dr. Kawashima (Nintendo)
06 (06) [NDS] TLoZ : Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo)
07 (07) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
08 (09) [WII] TLoZ : Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
09 (11) [PS3] PES 2008 (Konami)
10 (__) [WII] Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 (Ubisoft)
11 (15) [WII] Big Brain Academy : Wii Degree (Nintendo)
12 (08) [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
13 (__) [WII] Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition (Capcom)
14 (10) [PS3] Uncharted : Drake's Fortune (SCE)
15 (20) [NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
16 (13) [PS3] Call of Duty 4 : Modern Warfare (Activision)
17 (__) [NDS] Pokemon Diamond (Nintendo)
18 (12) [NDS] The Sims 2 : Castaway (Electronic Arts)
19 (14) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
20 (19) [360] Call of Duty 4 : Modern Warfare (Activision)

Titles per Platform :
NDS - 8
WII - 7
PS3 - 4
360 - 1


Things of note :
- Nintendomination continues etc, yawn @ top 5
- GO NATE ! hang in there buddy
- Zack & Wiki bomba total
- Holy shit @ TP & RE4



edit : fine, beaten again. *cries*

Uncharted! :D
 
Darji said:
The PS3 will never Overtake the Wii as long its alive. the potential market for the Wii is much much bigger than the one for PS3 and 360. But I am pretty sure that the PS3 will shine all over the world and in the end outsell the 360 by 2 or 3:1
Oh I never thought of the Wii (it wasn't mentioned in your post ^.^) but the "But the PS3 can still overtake the 360 in the US" comment.

MS has gotten the FPS and racing crowds in North America. So for PS3 to outpace the 360 it will need something like the Otaku crowd which MS already got an eye on with Blue Dragon and that ninja fox boy game made by Ubi.
 
Stormbringer said:
Honestly, given your way better layout and presentation, if I knew that you would have posted this chart so soon, I would have let you handle it first...


Just kidding, it's ok :p

It's just that usually, I always get beaten by a few minutes for french charts :lol

No prob tho, it's not a trace or anything ;)
 
Die Squirrel Die said:
Diamond is 1.2 million, it's double the double platinum (600K).

Incorrect, Diamond is 1 million unit sales mark created for recognition of Grand Theft Auto 3 sales performance.
 
Darji said:
i only can give you the numbers till October but since then the PS3 sales got an enormous boost while the 360 almost disapeard

Deutschland
Wii: 800.000 [bis Ende Dezember 07]
360: 328.000 [bis Ende Oktober 07]
PS3: 172.000 [bis Ende Oktober 07]

Oh and @ Zeatroll also known as stalkalot from consolewars.de You can quote me as often as you want if it gives you a hard one You little sexmachine

PS3 is still behind then at the end of 2007.

Nov+Dec sales:
PS3: 136.000
360: 56.000

Source: http://de.internet.com/index.php?id=2054486&ion=Marketing-News
 
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