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PhoenixDark said:
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Really? I don't know about that.
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Really? I don't know about that.
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PhoenixDark said:
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How can we make predictions till we hear reviews... you guys are doing this waayy too early.
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Oh man, I just can't wait to see this Thursday, if only to know if all these people that think "it looks like complete shit" are going to eat the crowbag. It's going to be interesting for sure.
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wow, cameron's gross isn't impressive?
PhoenixDark said:
Terminator
Budget US $6.5 million
Gross revenue $78,371,200
Aliens
Budget $18,500,000
Gross revenue $131,060,248
Terminator 2
Budget US$102 million
Gross revenue $519,843,345
Titanic
Budget US$ 200 million
Gross revenue US$ 1,848,813,795(Highest EVER grossed)
Yeah, not impressive at all.
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GhaleonEB said:
You have numbers for Aliens?
edit: nm
Avatar has a huge budget, and as such is more comparable to T2 and True Lies. True Lies didn't do particularly well, and T2 was a hit but it was also a pretty hyped film. I don't see that with Avatar. It's not going to do well
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so if avatar gets good reviews it won't gross any money?
I was actually suprised there was not at least a "partial nudity" disclaimer for all the boobs and ass that's apparently shown through the film (at least, thats the impression I got from those who went to see the 15 minute preview).rhino4evr said:
Maybe it doesn't count because they're furries/aliens/CGI? :lol
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Zeliard said:
I have nothing against it and I'm not trolling it. I just find everything I've seen and read about it to be disappointing, and I would be utterly shocked if it's successful in the US bo.
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kaching said:
1) All of those were sequels
2) It matters cause of REPEAT viewings... if this is damn good... PEOPLE will see this more then once
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PhoenixDark said:
I'm actually thinking that Sherlock Holmes could wind up making more money than Avatar. If it's any good that is. It seems like something that could really take off.
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PhoenixDark said:
What do you consider successful in the US? I'd say at least $200 Million.
I don't think the fate of science fiction in Hollywood is really resting on this movie's shoulders.....and I'm not really sure that people who liked Moon and District 9 want more films that are like 75% CG motion-capture. The charm of those films is that effects were used sparingly and that they were heavily grounded in a reality we know. If you want more movies like Moon you should probably spend $15 on the Moon DVD rather than seeing Avatar.
If Avatar is a huge success it's also equally as likely that plenty of other dumb cash-in garbage will get greenlit (Rolland Emmerich's Isaac Asimov's Foundation).
If Avatar is a huge success it's also equally as likely that plenty of other dumb cash-in garbage will get greenlit (Rolland Emmerich's Isaac Asimov's Foundation).
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border said:
This is the first really big ORIGINAL Science Fiction film since Star Wars... the industry is definitely looking at it
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Well, just went out and got my LIEMAX tickets for opening night. The IMAX tickets were only 50 cents more than the regular 3d ones, so I ponied up. Sure, its not a real sized IMAX screen, but the sound is impressive and you reserve your seating position ahead of time. The minor extra cost means I dont have to speed home from work praying I dont hit traffic now.
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Karma Kramer said:
I agree. I'm just wondering what dollar figure the industry is looking for it to make in order to green light some other ORIGINAL science fiction films.
So you pluck one movie not on the list to make your point that "His box office record is not as impressive as people make it out to be."PhoenixDark said:
Pretty weak stuff, PD. This is True Lies:
Budget: $115 million
Domestic: $146,282,411
+ Foreign: $232,600,000
= Worldwide: $378,882,411
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someone on the imdb message boards (aka the scum of internet film talk) said that he called up his IMAX and they said that they just were canceling some IMAX 3D screenings because they won't get prints in time. :lol
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I don't have high hopes for this movie, box office-wise. I don't think it's likely that it'll make back it's budget in theaters (isn't it 500 billion?). Maybe with DVD/BluRay sales down the line...mckmas8808 said:
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237 millionDax01 said:
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the most epic TV spot yet, saw it last night during the Office.
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Oh, well then. It'll probably make back it's budget if you include worldwide sales.CassidyIzABeast said:
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Dax01 said:
It will make back that in a week worldwide. It's getting a MASSIVE release.
That's pushing things a bit much, especially considering all the stuff that has happened since Star Wars.Karma Kramer said:
Jurassic Park.....Terminator series....The Matrix.....
Independence Day's inflation-adjusted domestic total is 500 million dollars (so is Ghostbusters). Avatar will probably be lucky to crack 300 or 350.....and even the most optimistic poster here is not going over 400.
What I think this line of argument misses is that the only reason Avatar is an original production is because it's James Cameron. Even if it does well I don't think anyone is going to hand Duncan Jones 300 million dollars to make his own CG motion-capture epic.
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DanielPlainview said:
wow. some awesome stuff there. Now to see how it looks when in context of the movie.
I do get the feeling they aren't showing us the really WOW moments though, they want to save that for your first viewing.
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Most people are not predicting over 400 million because not many films have crossed that threshold domestically. But at the same time, if Transformers 2 can do it, then maybe this can too.
I am not going to throw out predictions lightly, because honestly I see this going one of two directions. Either it will start big and fizzle very quickly like Watchmen did, or it will plow on through and be the biggest grosser this year. I dont think it will bomb bomb though. It will easily crack $100 million, and at the low end just squeak to around $200 million. Modest expectations I would put this as grossing $250 to $350 million. If it breaks $400 million though I would call it huge.
Was I vague enough in my expectations?
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HOLY FUCK DUDE! :lolDanielPlainview said:
That's the most epic thing I've ever seen.
WOW! That was amazing!
Definitely epic. They managed to cram so much awesomeness in only 30 seconds.DanielPlainview said:
From this and the other trailers I can piece together that it seems
like one of the battles, not sure if it's the "big one", seems to involve the Na'vi bringing down one of the large shuttles.
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Combine said:Definitely epic. They managed to cram so much awesomeness in only 30 seconds.
After I realized what happened in that very last scene I exploded into excitement and yelled "WHAAT??!!!"
As in holy shit that was fucking awesome
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Darklord said:
I think True Lies is his "least" successful film, and that still made back over 3x it's budget.
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